09-19-2019, 10:17 AM
UVA and Wm & Mary lead the way exhibiting bias in admissions. Bias is in favor for Black’s and Latino’s and negativity towards Asians and Whites. Stay tuned.
(09-19-2019 11:58 AM)mrjoolius Wrote: [ -> ]This sounds like a story being pushed along by conservative media outlets. I have no clue if there truly is admissions bias, but personally wouldn't have a problem with it if done responsibly. Let's be real. W&M has always had, or at least seen as having, diversity issues. Personally, I think diversity in background, ethnicity, and views is absolutely necessary in a liberal arts education. I don't take issue with a minority application gaining extra weight. These aren't minority dimwits being admitted. They are every bit the high achievers as their white counterparts gaining admission. They are equipped and capable of success at W&M. Unfortunately some white kids might lose out, but I believe it strengthens W&M overall.
Perhaps my opinion won't be popular, but as long as tough admissions requirements are upheld, it doesn't bother me at all if a deciding nod is given to minorities. Where I draw the line is if they are admitting under qualified minorities to meet a quota. That weakens the university and is no Bueno.
(09-19-2019 02:44 PM)Sitting bull Wrote: [ -> ]Judging people in any way by their skin color or background is just wrong, I don't care which PC name you try to slap on it. It's superficial and stupid.In a perfect world, you aren't wrong. But if there is a perceived diversity problem and an administration wants to be proactive, how else do you address the gap in diversity other than monitoring ethnicity and background? The school wants a student body that is more in line with the makeup of the general population of the state and nation. IMO, as a state school, it is W&Ms responsibility to be representative of the state. Admitting more worthy white kids does nothing towards balancing the ledger. While admitting more worthy black kids moves us closer to servicing the population we claim to represent.
(09-20-2019 07:56 AM)mrjoolius Wrote: [ -> ](09-19-2019 02:44 PM)Sitting bull Wrote: [ -> ]Judging people in any way by their skin color or background is just wrong, I don't care which PC name you try to slap on it. It's superficial and stupid.In a perfect world, you aren't wrong. But if there is a perceived diversity problem and an administration wants to be proactive, how else do you address the gap in diversity other than monitoring ethnicity and background? The school wants a student body that is more in line with the makeup of the general population of the state and nation. IMO, as a state school, it is W&Ms responsibility to be representative of the state. Admitting more worthy white kids does nothing towards balancing the ledger. While admitting more worthy black kids moves us closer to servicing the population we claim to represent.
US Ethnicity
Population 321,000,000
White 61.5%
Black 12.3%
Asian 5.3%
Hispanic 17.6%
VA State Ethnicity
Population 8,572,000
White 68.4%
Black 19.2%
Asian 6.2%
Hispanic roughly 4%
W&M Ethnicity
Enrollment 8,740
White 5312 (60.8%)
Black 650 (7.4%)
Asian 580 (6.6%)
Hispanic 715 (8.2%)
Stats taken from
https://www.collegetuitioncompare.com/ed...race-block
http://worldpopulationreview.com/states/...opulation/
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demograp...ted_States
(09-20-2019 09:29 AM)Tribal Wrote: [ -> ]Now, what's the breakdown of minorities who applied to W&M? You have to apply before you can be accepted.I can't find that info released publicly. Here are released admissions stats for the 2022 class.
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(09-20-2019 10:44 AM)Sitting bull Wrote: [ -> ]Do you think your approach should apply to all universities in Virginia - or just specific universities?
(09-20-2019 11:03 AM)LeadBolt Wrote: [ -> ]The enrolled %’s add up to roughly 82. I wonder what the rest is comprised of. That could be a huge thumb on the scales. Of course they could always be native Americans like Elizabeth Warren or foreign students such as Barry Soretto.I only reported the white, black, Asian, hispanic mentioned in the original post. The link from the thread breaks down the other ethnicities.
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(09-20-2019 10:44 AM)Sitting bull Wrote: [ -> ]We have diversity on many levels. Apparently, like your approach, it's not at numbers you feel they should be. That still doesn't outweigh - and shouldn't - the principle of allowing discrimination to achieve it.
Do you think your approach should apply to all universities in Virginia - or just specific universities?