Probably because nobody wants to live and study in Little Rock. It's one of the most dangerous cities in America.
It's not really much worse than any other city. Stay out of the wrong parts of town and you're fine. Just like any city. Unfortunately that school is butted up against those neighborhoods.
Arkansas has too many universities for a state its size. As an Arkansas resident, I really don't get it. We're not exactly swimming in money, even up here in NW Ark. We need to do what Georgia did and downsize and merge institutions to reduce overhead and take advantage of economies of scale.
UA-Fort Smith and UA-Monticello should be branch campuses of UA-Fayetteville and not separate 4 year accredited institutions. UA for the Medical Sciences should also be merged into Fayetteville.
Then we need to wonder what Henderson State, Southern Arkansas, and Central Arkansas are doing that couldn't be served by UA-F, UALR, and ASU branch campuses, the community colleges, and the UArk online program. I'd probably merge Arkansas Tech into ASU too, but I can see an argument for it staying independent.
(09-17-2019 10:26 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote: [ -> ]Arkansas has too many universities for a state its size. As an Arkansas resident, I really don't get it. We're not exactly swimming in money, even up here in NW Ark. We need to do what Georgia did and downsize and merge institutions to reduce overhead and take advantage of economies of scale.
UA-Fort Smith and UA-Monticello should be branch campuses of UA-Fayetteville and not separate 4 year accredited institutions. UA for the Medical Sciences should also be merged into Fayetteville.
Then we need to wonder what Henderson State, Southern Arkansas, and Central Arkansas are doing that couldn't be served by UA-F, UALR, and ASU branch campuses, the community colleges, and the UArk online program. I'd probably merge Arkansas Tech into ASU too, but I can see an argument for it staying independent.
You could be talking about Louisiana, but no legislator want to go back home and say they are closing their area 4-year university. We could cut half and make them JUCO and serve the state much better.
A-State enrollment was only slightly down on the Jonesboro campus. The problem is more and more students are classified as online students.
September 10, 2019 at 10:01 PM CDT - Updated September 10 at 10:01 PM
JONESBORO, Ark. (KAIT) -Arkansas State University released the numbers for enrollment for the Fall 2019 semester.
According to a news release, the eleventh class day head count totaled 13,891 students, a 1.2% decline compared to 2018.
Arkansas State also saw a decline in first-time students, down to 1,391 students, and a decline in international students, down 10.2%.
“The problem is not a lack of interest in our by international students,” Chancellor Kelly Damphousse said. “The demand is there, but many of the students we admitted were not able to get student visas.”
According to the release, freshman retention topped 75% for the second consecutive year, compared to 72% in Fall 2017.
(09-17-2019 10:26 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote: [ -> ]Arkansas has too many universities for a state its size. As an Arkansas resident, I really don't get it. We're not exactly swimming in money, even up here in NW Ark. We need to do what Georgia did and downsize and merge institutions to reduce overhead and take advantage of economies of scale.
UA-Fort Smith and UA-Monticello should be branch campuses of UA-Fayetteville and not separate 4 year accredited institutions. UA for the Medical Sciences should also be merged into Fayetteville.
Then we need to wonder what Henderson State, Southern Arkansas, and Central Arkansas are doing that couldn't be served by UA-F, UALR, and ASU branch campuses, the community colleges, and the UArk online program. I'd probably merge Arkansas Tech into ASU too, but I can see an argument for it staying independent.
Henderson State might end up part of the ASU system as the ASU System is managing that university for now.
UALR is part of the UA system.
Tech & UCA are too big to be swallowed up by either UA or ASU...there would be too much resistance.
Enrollment in higher education has been dropping for almost a decade straight now. The costs, the push to convince kids not to go to college, the general population decline... The bubble from the early 2000s has to pop at some point.
(09-17-2019 08:30 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]Probably because nobody wants to live and study in Little Rock. It's one of the most dangerous cities in America.
Monroe was THE most dangerous city in America a few years back, and ULM’s enrollment is still growing. The campus isn’t in one of the worst neighborhoods, but it’s really close to a few of them.
But for freshman retention shooting up AState's numbers would be uglier.
I don't buy the "dangerous" argument for UALR. Not the greatest neighborhood but not like wandering off-campus at Tulane.
UALR's biggest problem is UCA has finally stabilized. They had two presidents led off campus in metal bracelets and ended up convicted of crimes. The bad publicity coupled with the chaos and inability to do much when lacking a CEO hurt. Now they are stable and they are aggressively marketing once again.
Pulaski Tech joining the UA System may eventually be a positive but the legitimizing impact of being in the UA system is likely to pull away some freshmen. PulTech has a dang pretty campus in NLR with fantastic view of the river and Little Rock.
UALR did a deal to locate a local charter high school on campus and everyone thought UALR had cracked the code to the nuclear football and would grab all these kids. Hasn't happened. If you want to "go away" to college then the campus you went to in high school isn't "going away" and the high school kids use the UALR cafeteria (they aren't allowed to leave campus because of heavy traffic on the west side). Apparently the UALR students do not like how the cafeteria "culture" has changed with many complaints and supposedly students have told people on campus tours to not come to UALR when the tour hits the cafeteria. The last I saw they were looking at a new space for the high school students to eat.
I live north of the river and my son drives to UCA because it only takes about 10 minutes more at worst and he can easily park closer to his classes than at UALR.
UALR did some weird marketing pushing some degrees you don't normally see like Dance. Awesome billboard with cool photo of a ballet dancer, just not sure it spurred many enrolling.
(09-17-2019 10:26 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote: [ -> ]Arkansas has too many universities for a state its size. As an Arkansas resident, I really don't get it. We're not exactly swimming in money, even up here in NW Ark. We need to do what Georgia did and downsize and merge institutions to reduce overhead and take advantage of economies of scale.
UA-Fort Smith and UA-Monticello should be branch campuses of UA-Fayetteville and not separate 4 year accredited institutions. UA for the Medical Sciences should also be merged into Fayetteville.
Then we need to wonder what Henderson State, Southern Arkansas, and Central Arkansas are doing that couldn't be served by UA-F, UALR, and ASU branch campuses, the community colleges, and the UArk online program. I'd probably merge Arkansas Tech into ASU too, but I can see an argument for it staying independent.
The difference is all the public Georgia schools are in one USG, in Arkansas there are the ASU schools, the UA schools, and the other public schools are independent. Why should UArk be the preferred school for programs offered at other schools?
As a proud Arkansas Tech alum on the suggestion to merge us into another school, with absolutely no disrespect to ASU, not just NO but **** NO.
(09-18-2019 10:36 AM)AZcats Wrote: [ -> ] (09-17-2019 10:26 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote: [ -> ]Arkansas has too many universities for a state its size. As an Arkansas resident, I really don't get it. We're not exactly swimming in money, even up here in NW Ark. We need to do what Georgia did and downsize and merge institutions to reduce overhead and take advantage of economies of scale.
UA-Fort Smith and UA-Monticello should be branch campuses of UA-Fayetteville and not separate 4 year accredited institutions. UA for the Medical Sciences should also be merged into Fayetteville.
Then we need to wonder what Henderson State, Southern Arkansas, and Central Arkansas are doing that couldn't be served by UA-F, UALR, and ASU branch campuses, the community colleges, and the UArk online program. I'd probably merge Arkansas Tech into ASU too, but I can see an argument for it staying independent.
The difference is all the public Georgia schools are in one USG, in Arkansas there are the ASU schools, the UA schools, and the other public schools are independent. Why should UArk be the preferred school for programs offered at other schools?
As a proud Arkansas Tech alum on the suggestion to merge us into another school, with absolutely no disrespect to ASU, not just NO but **** NO.
Arkansas is likely to eventually be a two system state which is pretty common.
The problem is its dang near impossible to make Arkansas two-system in the logical manner because of the politics.
There should be one system for the doctoral schools, UAF, UAMS, UALR, AState, UCA, and I think UAPB has a doctoral program.
The remainder and the jucos should be in another system.
Instead we have the two "top" campuses in different systems and each is picking up whatever they can without regard to whether they are master's colleges, bachelor's or associates and no regard to geography. Juco in Batesville is in UA System and the primary reason they picked UA is because the community's hated rival has a juco and it went with AState. Either being in the same system with the other was an impossibility. If the state forced everyone to herd into two systems, little chance Tech and UCA are choosing the same one and if SAU ever has to join they will join AState to avoid joining Monticello in the UA system.
(09-18-2019 09:22 AM)Crump1 Wrote: [ -> ]the general population decline
Population decline?
(09-18-2019 11:22 AM)_x_ Wrote: [ -> ] (09-18-2019 09:22 AM)Crump1 Wrote: [ -> ]the general population decline
Population decline?
College age kids. We knew years ago in Arkansas we were facing some enrollment issues because of the number of 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th graders was lower than normal.
(09-18-2019 11:18 AM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ] (09-18-2019 10:36 AM)AZcats Wrote: [ -> ] (09-17-2019 10:26 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote: [ -> ]Arkansas has too many universities for a state its size. As an Arkansas resident, I really don't get it. We're not exactly swimming in money, even up here in NW Ark. We need to do what Georgia did and downsize and merge institutions to reduce overhead and take advantage of economies of scale.
UA-Fort Smith and UA-Monticello should be branch campuses of UA-Fayetteville and not separate 4 year accredited institutions. UA for the Medical Sciences should also be merged into Fayetteville.
Then we need to wonder what Henderson State, Southern Arkansas, and Central Arkansas are doing that couldn't be served by UA-F, UALR, and ASU branch campuses, the community colleges, and the UArk online program. I'd probably merge Arkansas Tech into ASU too, but I can see an argument for it staying independent.
The difference is all the public Georgia schools are in one USG, in Arkansas there are the ASU schools, the UA schools, and the other public schools are independent. Why should UArk be the preferred school for programs offered at other schools?
As a proud Arkansas Tech alum on the suggestion to merge us into another school, with absolutely no disrespect to ASU, not just NO but **** NO.
Arkansas is likely to eventually be a two system state which is pretty common.
The problem is its dang near impossible to make Arkansas two-system in the logical manner because of the politics.
There should be one system for the doctoral schools, UAF, UAMS, UALR, AState, UCA, and I think UAPB has a doctoral program.
The remainder and the jucos should be in another system.
Instead we have the two "top" campuses in different systems and each is picking up whatever they can without regard to whether they are master's colleges, bachelor's or associates and no regard to geography. Juco in Batesville is in UA System and the primary reason they picked UA is because the community's hated rival has a juco and it went with AState. Either being in the same system with the other was an impossibility. If the state forced everyone to herd into two systems, little chance Tech and UCA are choosing the same one and if SAU ever has to join they will join AState to avoid joining Monticello in the UA system.
Didn't see any doctoral degrees at UAPB. We have a Doctor of Education at Tech that started in 2015.
(09-17-2019 08:11 PM)HighlandsApp Wrote: [ -> ]What's going on in Arkansas with enrollment dropping at the noted public schools?
A-State wasn't mentioned. How is your enrollment?
https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2019...cit-set-t/
Reading the article it seems that the drop is all in Grad Students.
Undergrad is up 1%, with number of classes up 3% (so more full time). Law school is up slightly.
UAPB has a PhD in Aquaculture and one in Fisheries.
(09-17-2019 10:26 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote: [ -> ]Arkansas has too many universities for a state its size. As an Arkansas resident, I really don't get it. We're not exactly swimming in money, even up here in NW Ark. We need to do what Georgia did and downsize and merge institutions to reduce overhead and take advantage of economies of scale.
UA-Fort Smith and UA-Monticello should be branch campuses of UA-Fayetteville and not separate 4 year accredited institutions. UA for the Medical Sciences should also be merged into Fayetteville.
Then we need to wonder what Henderson State, Southern Arkansas, and Central Arkansas are doing that couldn't be served by UA-F, UALR, and ASU branch campuses, the community colleges, and the UArk online program. I'd probably merge Arkansas Tech into ASU too, but I can see an argument for it staying independent.
Arkansas Politics would never allow this to happen. I’m sure being from NWA a lot of these small towns literally hate the neighboring town. Getting everyone into two systems requires everyone to get along, and that simply doesn’t happen here.
Hell Henderson State grads are pushing back against incorporating into ASU, and they are so screwed up the school literally almost went bankrupt
(09-18-2019 05:49 PM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ]UAPB has a PhD in Aquaculture and one in Fisheries.
Ok, found it. Looked in the wrong area earlier.