We dont like you, so we are going to try and replace you...
Quote:Several high-profile Senate Democrats warned the Supreme Court in pointed terms this week that it could face a fundamental restructuring if justices do not take steps to "heal" the court in the near future.
The ominous and unusual warning was delivered as part of a brief filed Monday in a case related to a New York City gun law. Sens. Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I., Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., Mazie Hirono, D-Hawaii, Richard Durbin, D-Ill., and Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., referenced rulings by the court's conservative majority in claiming it is suffering from some sort of affliction which must be remedied.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/senate-...tructuring
It's truly frightening what the left has become.
Quote:The last part was quoting language from a Quinnipiac University poll, in which 51 percent favored such restructuring. In the same poll, 55 percent believed the Supreme Court was "motivated by politics" more than by the law.
I'm going to assume that the result "51% favor restructuring" is similar to a negative approval rating.
I wonder if Congress is aware of their current 76% Disapproval Rating from
Gallup.
But the "55% believe SCOTUS is motivated by politics" shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone who has been aware of judicial activism due to "living document" ideology.
Here's an idea... ORIGINAL INTENT.
(08-13-2019 01:33 PM)appst89 Wrote: [ -> ]It's truly frightening what the left has become.
That is a serious understatement.
(08-13-2019 01:33 PM)appst89 Wrote: [ -> ]It's truly frightening what the left has become.
When you're on the "right" side of history, the ends justify the means.
Can these Senators be censured or something for trying to intimidate the court? What business to they have it telling the court what cases to hear?
The Supreme Court has been “political” for as long as it has existed.
It is entirely appropriate IMHO for people who disapprove of of the Court’s decisions to attack it in political terms and to threaten political reprisals, as the Gun-Control Senators are doing here.
Those of us who disagree with the anti-2A agenda need to publicize the attack so that other people know what’s going on, and ensure (at the ballot box) that these Senators will never get the chance to make good on their threat.
(08-13-2019 01:49 PM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2019 01:33 PM)appst89 Wrote: [ -> ]It's truly frightening what the left has become.
That is a serious understatement.
It's no longer party politics. They truly are behaving like Nazi's in the Reichstag. I think the public should consider them to be a gang of internal revolutionaries and treat them accordingly.
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(08-13-2019 02:02 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ]The Supreme Court has been “political” for as long as it has existed.
It is entirely appropriate IMHO for people who disapprove of of the Court’s decisions to attack it in political terms and to threaten political reprisals, as the Gun-Control Senators are doing here.
Those of us who disagree with the anti-2A agenda need to publicize the attack so that other people know what’s going on, and ensure (at the ballot box) that these Senators will never get the chance to make good on their threat.
While what you suggest is appropriate structurally, it is not practical as a method since their constituents are sold out to their position. Free societies lose out to radicals by sticking to procedure.
This is meaning that when we take over the WH again, we'll balance the scales in liberal favor until all the conservatives are gone.. But their champ RBG has said she feels that the number of justices is fine where it is..
(08-13-2019 02:25 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]what you suggest is appropriate structurally, it is not practical as a method since their constituents are sold out to their position.
That is the heart of the problem, right there. Not what some politicians said in a dressed-up press release.
Quote:Free societies lose out to radicals by sticking to procedure.
Some truth in that. Ultimately, we need to understand that American concepts of “liberty” and “freedom” are very scarce in the world, and are not guaranteed to endure even within America. If the balance tilts too far in the direction of people like Gillibrand and Durbin, then yeah we will, indeed, lose our “free society” to “radicals” who want to destroy it. And that will happen whether we “stick to procedure” or not.
To me, things like this (the gun-control proponents threatening the Court) is merely a sign that a growing % of our society no longer desires to live under the Constitution and — if they attain the necessary political power to put their desires into effect — will take it away from us.
In a lot of ways, they already have.
It is up to us to call them out and oppose them every way that we can.
Reading that list of names, it's a veritable who's who list of far left lunatics. I'd put the nuts Hirono and the fake Vietnam Vet blumenthal at the head of the class.
I guess we now have our Senate side of a "squad", leftist, fringe, lunatics. Power. That's all that matters.
(08-13-2019 02:38 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2019 02:25 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]what you suggest is appropriate structurally, it is not practical as a method since their constituents are sold out to their position.
That is the heart of the problem, right there. Not what some politicians said in a dressed-up press release.
Quote:Free societies lose out to radicals by sticking to procedure.
Some truth in that. Ultimately, we need to understand that American concepts of “liberty” and “freedom” are very scarce in the world, and are not guaranteed to endure even within America. If the balance tilts too far in the direction of people like Gillibrand and Durbin, then yeah we will, indeed, lose our “free society” to “radicals” who want to destroy it. And that will happen whether we “stick to procedure” or not.
To me, things like this (the gun-control proponents threatening the Court) is merely a sign that a growing % of our society no longer desires to live under the Constitution and — if they attain the necessary political power to put their desires into effect — will take it away from us. In a lot of ways, they already have.
It is up to us to call them out and oppose them every way that we can.
As was once famously stated, and as usual quite prescient:
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same."
*Ronaldus Maximus
Also spot on, again as usual:
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
*Honest Abe
Or, more ominously:
: "About the capitalist states, it doesn't depend on you whether or not we exist. If you don't like us, don't accept our invitations, and don't invite us to come to see you. Whether you like it or not,
history is on our side. We will bury you!"
*Hero of the left- Nikita Khrushchev
Are we seeing this unfold before our very eyes?
Libs wanna pack the court if they take over the Senate
FDR threatened to do the same
(08-13-2019 01:33 PM)appst89 Wrote: [ -> ]It's truly frightening what the left has become.
Yes.
And the Supreme Court still gets along even though they disagree. The Senate Dems need to apply that to themselves.
(08-13-2019 02:02 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ]The Supreme Court has been “political” for as long as it has existed.
It is entirely appropriate IMHO for people who disapprove of of the Court’s decisions to attack it in political terms and to threaten political reprisals, as the Gun-Control Senators are doing here.
Those of us who disagree with the anti-2A agenda need to publicize the attack so that other people know what’s going on, and ensure (at the ballot box) that these Senators will never get the chance to make good on their threat.
I don't agree at all. These senators display a fundamental lack of knowledge of the constitution and the role of the court. If the court followed polls (assuming the unlikely proposition that progressive Democrats are the majority as they are claiming) then it would never have repealed Plessy v. Ferguson.
(08-13-2019 03:27 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2019 02:38 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2019 02:25 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]what you suggest is appropriate structurally, it is not practical as a method since their constituents are sold out to their position.
That is the heart of the problem, right there. Not what some politicians said in a dressed-up press release.
Quote:Free societies lose out to radicals by sticking to procedure.
Some truth in that. Ultimately, we need to understand that American concepts of “liberty” and “freedom” are very scarce in the world, and are not guaranteed to endure even within America. If the balance tilts too far in the direction of people like Gillibrand and Durbin, then yeah we will, indeed, lose our “free society” to “radicals” who want to destroy it. And that will happen whether we “stick to procedure” or not.
To me, things like this (the gun-control proponents threatening the Court) is merely a sign that a growing % of our society no longer desires to live under the Constitution and — if they attain the necessary political power to put their desires into effect — will take it away from us. In a lot of ways, they already have.
It is up to us to call them out and oppose them every way that we can.
As was once famously stated, and as usual quite prescient:
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same."
*Ronaldus Maximus
Also spot on, again as usual:
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
*Honest Abe
Or, more ominously:
: "About the capitalist states, it doesn't depend on you whether or not we exist. If you don't like us, don't accept our invitations, and don't invite us to come to see you. Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"
*Hero of the left- Nikita Khrushchev
Are we seeing this unfold before our very eyes?
20 million Russians died stopping Fascism in WWII. Now they have let it in via the front door with Putin.
Will America do the same, repudiating all those who have died for freedom?
(08-13-2019 04:23 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2019 02:02 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ]The Supreme Court has been “political” for as long as it has existed.
It is entirely appropriate IMHO for people who disapprove of of the Court’s decisions to attack it in political terms and to threaten political reprisals, as the Gun-Control Senators are doing here.
Those of us who disagree with the anti-2A agenda need to publicize the attack so that other people know what’s going on, and ensure (at the ballot box) that these Senators will never get the chance to make good on their threat.
I don't agree at all. These senators display a fundamental lack of knowledge of the constitution and the role of the court. If the court followed polls (assuming the unlikely proposition that progressive Democrats are the majority as they are claiming) then it would never have repealed Plessy v. Ferguson.
Unfortunately, too many people holding elected office have the same problem.
BTW, too many citizens also have this problem.
(08-13-2019 01:33 PM)appst89 Wrote: [ -> ]It's truly frightening what the left has become.
They're not going to stop until there's another Civil War. I am more convinced of that almost daily.
(08-13-2019 04:26 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2019 03:27 PM)JMUDunk Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2019 02:38 PM)Native Georgian Wrote: [ -> ] (08-13-2019 02:25 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]what you suggest is appropriate structurally, it is not practical as a method since their constituents are sold out to their position.
That is the heart of the problem, right there. Not what some politicians said in a dressed-up press release.
Quote:Free societies lose out to radicals by sticking to procedure.
Some truth in that. Ultimately, we need to understand that American concepts of “liberty” and “freedom” are very scarce in the world, and are not guaranteed to endure even within America. If the balance tilts too far in the direction of people like Gillibrand and Durbin, then yeah we will, indeed, lose our “free society” to “radicals” who want to destroy it. And that will happen whether we “stick to procedure” or not.
To me, things like this (the gun-control proponents threatening the Court) is merely a sign that a growing % of our society no longer desires to live under the Constitution and — if they attain the necessary political power to put their desires into effect — will take it away from us. In a lot of ways, they already have.
It is up to us to call them out and oppose them every way that we can.
As was once famously stated, and as usual quite prescient:
"Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same."
*Ronaldus Maximus
Also spot on, again as usual:
America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves.
*Honest Abe
Or, more ominously:
: "About the capitalist states, it doesn't depend on you whether or not we exist. If you don't like us, don't accept our invitations, and don't invite us to come to see you. Whether you like it or not, history is on our side. We will bury you!"
*Hero of the left- Nikita Khrushchev
Are we seeing this unfold before our very eyes?
20 million Russians died stopping Fascism in WWII. Now they have let it in via the front door with Putin.
Will America do the same, repudiating all those who have died for freedom?
If people want to stop it they must put themselves on the line.
Teach the truth to the kids and take back the schools where this disease is spread and normalized.
Totally boycott all media outlets and corporations that preach otherwise.
Confront the radicals who are seeking to intimidate with equal force to prevent it, legally would be preferable, but confront it nonetheless.
And finally if you disagree and you are an academic then speak up and put your butt on the line. Your silence is consent. And all citizens need to do the same.
You can't be a passive and rational guy hoping truth will win out when your opposition is lying, forceful, ruthless, and aggressive. You have to expose them publicly, truthfully, and aggressively, and ruthlessly if necessary. They may be so called fellow citizens but they have an alien agenda and really are fellow travelers and what they believe is contrary to everything we believe in. They aren't going away peacefully and they are showing that now at every turn. It only gets worse. And they won't finish until they have complete control of your children and grandchildren's minds, complete control of your assets, and have stolen or destroyed every freedom you've ever enjoyed. Make no mistake they play for keeps and they are the enemy.
This is no longer a political disagreement between trickle down and grassroots economic stimulus. We are no longer two sets of capitalist arguing over the business model. These are Marxist / Leninists practicing a Maoist strategy to weaken this nation so that it can be defeated. And why this is even tolerated is completely beyond me. Our country has lost its collective mind and it has been bought out of reason by corporate globalism for the sake of a buck, and sold down the river with socialism replacing social conscience, and with Pseudo prosperity gospel replacing the real Gospel.
Our battle is not against a race or a gender. It is against belief systems that destroy our culture and our principles, and with them our guarantees of liberty. We must rally all Americans in this struggle for minds and our future.