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https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/17/18681...ry-houston

Along with Amazon's drones-driverless delivery:

"Nuro, the self-driving delivery startup, is teaming up with Domino’s to launch a pilot for driverless pizza delivery in Houston, Texas, the companies announced Monday. Starting later this year, Domino’s will use Nuro’s driverless fleet of custom-built robot cars to deliver pizza to select Houston residents who place orders online.

Nuro, which was founded by two ex-members of Google’s pioneering self-driving team, has been using its fleet of R1 robot cars to deliver groceries to residents of Scottsdale, Arizona, and more recently, Houston. If the pilot with Domino’s goes well, it’s safe to assume Nuro will look to expand it to other markets as well.

NURO HAS BEEN RAMPING UP ITS ACTIVITIES IN RECENT MONTHS
Nuro has been ramping up its activities in recent months since receiving a $1 billion investment from Japanese tech company SoftBank...."
It'll never happen. People want their pizza delivered by hand. How will they get the pizza in the door?

In before the naysayers. 03-phew
It sounds good in principal, but we are a long way from it being practical.

I've been picking up a little extra cash the past few years delivering for a local florist during her busy times of the year: Valentine's Day, Mother's Day, Christmas, etc. I can think of a bunch of situations I have encountered that there's absolutely no way a robot is going to be able to make a delivery there.
(06-19-2019 11:53 AM)king king Wrote: [ -> ]It'll never happen. People want their pizza delivered by hand. How will they get the pizza in the door?

In before the naysayers. 03-phew

This won't ever fly. It won't even get off the ground. Its wings will be clipped by naysayers.
I am a little confused about how the package changes hands as it were.
We're quickly approaching a time where no jobs will exist for teenagers or the low-skilled.

I'm sure that will be great for society.
(06-19-2019 12:42 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]I am a little confused about how the package changes hands as it were.

I'd imagine you get a notification when it arrives, and go out to the parking lot and interact with what is essentially a vending machine.
(06-19-2019 01:32 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 12:42 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]I am a little confused about how the package changes hands as it were.

I'd imagine you get a notification when it arrives, and go out to the parking lot and interact with what is essentially a vending machine.

Probably.

The elderly and disabled may not be able to go to the parking lot, though.
(06-19-2019 01:37 PM)umbluegray Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 01:32 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 12:42 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]I am a little confused about how the package changes hands as it were.

I'd imagine you get a notification when it arrives, and go out to the parking lot and interact with what is essentially a vending machine.

Probably.

The elderly and disabled may not be able to go to the parking lot, though.

There will also be those who do not have cell phones to receive said notification. Dominoes will gladly forgo those sales if nuro can just beat their cost of labor.

Yang has it right, we're entering the 4th industrial revolution. It's going to be ugly.
(06-19-2019 01:32 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 12:42 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]I am a little confused about how the package changes hands as it were.

I'd imagine you get a notification when it arrives, and go out to the parking lot and interact with what is essentially a vending machine.

I usually only order a pizza when the weather is schit and I don't want to go outside.
(06-19-2019 01:42 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 01:37 PM)umbluegray Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 01:32 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 12:42 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]I am a little confused about how the package changes hands as it were.

I'd imagine you get a notification when it arrives, and go out to the parking lot and interact with what is essentially a vending machine.

Probably.

The elderly and disabled may not be able to go to the parking lot, though.

There will also be those who do not have cell phones to receive said notification. Dominoes will gladly forgo those sales if nuro can just beat their cost of labor.

Yang has it right, we're entering the 4th industrial revolution. It's going to be ugly.

Nuro can't beat the cost. Delivery drivers make minimum wage plus tips. Dominoes doesn't even pay for their transportation. There isn't a snowball's chance this provides a better service at a lower price. I'm sure they stole a bunch of investors money and will keep going until they spend it all (on operating losses and their own bonuses), but this isn't sustainable. A single driverless vehicle will cost about 10x more than an entire city's worth of drivers.
Apartment complex, 3rd story. Good luck with that.
What's the going rate on how much you are supposed to tip your drone?
(06-19-2019 03:29 PM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 01:42 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 01:37 PM)umbluegray Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 01:32 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 12:42 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]I am a little confused about how the package changes hands as it were.

I'd imagine you get a notification when it arrives, and go out to the parking lot and interact with what is essentially a vending machine.

Probably.

The elderly and disabled may not be able to go to the parking lot, though.

There will also be those who do not have cell phones to receive said notification. Dominoes will gladly forgo those sales if nuro can just beat their cost of labor.

Yang has it right, we're entering the 4th industrial revolution. It's going to be ugly.

Nuro can't beat the cost. Delivery drivers make minimum wage plus tips. Dominoes doesn't even pay for their transportation. There isn't a snowball's chance this provides a better service at a lower price. I'm sure they stole a bunch of investors money and will keep going until they spend it all (on operating losses and their own bonuses), but this isn't sustainable. A single driverless vehicle will cost about 10x more than an entire city's worth of drivers.

Sure it can, and it most certainly does.

Also, lol at "better service". They don't care. It'll undoubtedly be marginally worse (self-pickup in the parking lot instead of handed to you at the door), but that's nothing they can't simply reprogram into their customer base. They'll just sell it as the hottest new tech, and the sheep will jump on board.
(06-19-2019 03:31 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]Apartment complex, 3rd story. Good luck with that.

Self-pickup.
(06-19-2019 03:31 PM)UofMstateU Wrote: [ -> ]Apartment complex, 3rd story. Good luck with that.

It's not even going to take that. My front sidewalk is 35 feet from the street to my front door. There's 9 feet of elevation difference between the base of my front steps and street level. I want to see the robot that can navigate these stairs.
(06-19-2019 01:42 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 01:37 PM)umbluegray Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 01:32 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 12:42 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]I am a little confused about how the package changes hands as it were.

I'd imagine you get a notification when it arrives, and go out to the parking lot and interact with what is essentially a vending machine.

Probably.

The elderly and disabled may not be able to go to the parking lot, though.

There will also be those who do not have cell phones to receive said notification. Dominoes will gladly forgo those sales if nuro can just beat their cost of labor.

Yang has it right, we're entering the 4th industrial revolution. It's going to be ugly.

It's going to be great.
(06-19-2019 03:59 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 03:29 PM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 01:42 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 01:37 PM)umbluegray Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 01:32 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]I'd imagine you get a notification when it arrives, and go out to the parking lot and interact with what is essentially a vending machine.

Probably.

The elderly and disabled may not be able to go to the parking lot, though.

There will also be those who do not have cell phones to receive said notification. Dominoes will gladly forgo those sales if nuro can just beat their cost of labor.

Yang has it right, we're entering the 4th industrial revolution. It's going to be ugly.

Nuro can't beat the cost. Delivery drivers make minimum wage plus tips. Dominoes doesn't even pay for their transportation. There isn't a snowball's chance this provides a better service at a lower price. I'm sure they stole a bunch of investors money and will keep going until they spend it all (on operating losses and their own bonuses), but this isn't sustainable. A single driverless vehicle will cost about 10x more than an entire city's worth of drivers.

Sure it can, and it most certainly does.

Also, lol at "better service". They don't care. It'll undoubtedly be marginally worse (self-pickup in the parking lot instead of handed to you at the door), but that's nothing they can't simply reprogram into their customer base. They'll just sell it as the hottest new tech, and the sheep will jump on board.

People are willing to pay a $5.99 delivery fee from DoorDash and GrubHub so that they neither have to talk on the phone nor go out their front door. Yes, service matters. Human drivers are the least of Dominoes problems. Their problem is the product sucks and people are gladly paying twice as much to go to the local Italian spot down the street. Adding expenses to their overhead and a bunch of depreciating, non-liquid assets to their balance sheet is not the way to go.
(06-19-2019 01:32 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 12:42 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]I am a little confused about how the package changes hands as it were.

I'd imagine you get a notification when it arrives, and go out to the parking lot and interact with what is essentially a vending machine.

How does the vending machine assure it's getting into the right hands? I'm sure these companies have hashed out the details but...

I agree with you that applications like these may be taking away opportunities for teens and other low skilled workers.
(06-20-2019 08:13 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 01:32 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-19-2019 12:42 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]I am a little confused about how the package changes hands as it were.

I'd imagine you get a notification when it arrives, and go out to the parking lot and interact with what is essentially a vending machine.

How does the vending machine assure it's getting into the right hands? I'm sure these companies have hashed out the details but...

I agree with you that applications like these may be taking away opportunities for teens and other low skilled workers.

Or, you can also look at it like it's freeing them up to go do other things. Things like studying how to be someone that has a job in the next wave of industries this will bring about. Or how to produce things like art, music, books, plays, etc that enrich people's experience in life.

Free time is what these types of technologies will ultimately engender. Is a driverless pizza delivery vehicle going to do that? I don't think so, however, broadly applied autonomous technologies will over time. My kids' kids are going to be replete with free time. If we can make it that long without destroying ourselves in the process. And that's a big if right now.
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