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(06-05-2019 12:12 PM)FMRocket Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-05-2019 11:11 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ]We have 15,000 rain or shine in our 26000 stadium. Usually 21,000 or so. Targeting the 300,000 who are die hards to other teams fans is pointless. There is still a large number of not huge football or sports fans who didn't attend college, or went to Owens and don't have an identity on the CFB front. Actually a large number of alums who never cared about the Rockets! We want them! Those are the ones we need! And just a couple thousand more to fill our stadium!!

We have a good market and good fans. UT apparel around the city is way up. Make the games more fun and something to remember obviously. But targeting OSU ticket holders and maze and blue colored houses is indeed pointless. IMO I don't even know how you would target them? Do gameday trade ins for OSU tix for Toledo ones?

Basically... Target the ones we can target. Get more fans in the stadium... EVEN for CHEAP.... Then wow them so they come back. The venue and product should do most of that.

Public perception of the football program goes a long way IMO. Losing their last 3 bowl games, two they had no business losing and one flat out embarrassment did not garner much respect in the post season...People say - “ Same old Toledo, choke in the big games “.
And I hear that a lot...
Also spotting EMU 28 points and losing at the last minute, the second half collapse against UB surely did not help the cause last year... I could go on and on... Sure we have a storied history, but a lot of the Joe Blow casual fan around metro Toledo will say - “ What have you done lately “
Time for the Rockets to regain some of that lost respect, along with improving the fan experience (as was mentioned by Indiana Sniff) things will eventually shakedown in a positive way for Toledo football...

A lot of what you point out could also apply to UM, but they are not losing fans. And even with those failures, UT football has been pretty successful and competitive over the last decade, and with national TV and players drafted into the NFL, gotten some high profile.

I agree about improving the game day experience for fans (which I mentioned earlier on a post), but I really do not think there is a huge untapped market of college football fans in the Toledo areas that UT via marketing and promotion would bring in to the Glass Bowl. During the last 20 years I have attended games where plenty of game day events and activities have been tried, yet average attendance really has not improved, and seasons where it has by a little is from the teams performance or like in the case of U Miami, an attractive opponent.

And I do think the university budget, and that allocated to Athletics - especially for marketing and promotion - really limits what can be done and monies to spend. And thats not an excuse, its is true reality, if you don't have the money to spend it limited what is even possible. Personally I think trying to chase down "missing" CFB fans is waste of time and money, has been tried and not been successful, but I do think improvements to seating, concessions, entertainment in the Glass Bowl during games would be a benefit to all that already attend.

(06-04-2019 11:23 AM)PaulJ Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-04-2019 10:17 AM)crusher38 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-04-2019 09:29 AM)PaulJ Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-03-2019 02:32 PM)crusher38 Wrote: [ -> ]

(06-02-2019 09:52 PM)UofToledoFans Wrote: [ -> ]Until they realized actual good hockey could be played (2014 ish), the arena was primarily made to bring people back downtown by holding other events. Retractable anything is going to feel cheap. I also do not like a few sections of retractable seating without cupholders at the Huntington. After this revenue boost I would not be surprised to see some renovations coming. It's still a fine 10 year old arena. Not many teams average over 5000 during the regular season. The Walleye put 8,500 in there last night and sold out all games the past 2 series'. It still won best arena again so they did something right.

Toledo was a test arena for replay this year which will come league wide next season. The marvel, nickalodeon jersey series will be league wide in 2020 as well with how successful it has been here. Marketing for the Walleye does a decent job. Only a Komets fine would think we are small time

lol i agree with everything u said right down to the cupholders fiasco. that burned alot of people. i remember sitting next to pete gerkin during a mud hens game before the arena was built and i specifically said "if you want a nice arena, go look at the allen county war memorial in fort wayne"

the way u can make seats bigger and roomier in the lower bowl is add more seats to the uper deck/ jack the roof up while taking away a few seats in the bowl to make room for better seats. addition and subtraction at the same time.


when u say retractable, i can only think of when someone had a great idea which wasnt put into play about just making one large venue with a retractable roof. so mud hens stadium and huntington under one roof with astro turf. its a nice idea and you could possible adjoin the seagate center like fort wayne did theirs. you also save parking room and people dont have to park clear on superior.

Given the number of sell outs that the Walleye have had this season, doesn't look like anyone is too upset about the seats

who cant sell out when seats are 20?

And lets face it the UT Rockets and Mud Hens increase attendance via cheap seat sales also.

if you only knew