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(05-24-2019 05:16 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/the...index.html

Breaking news out of the UK.

Finally. She's as bad as Stacey Abrams in not knowing when to quit.

Brexit.....or spying on Trump? Maybe a little of the last. The day after Trump orders the declassification of this issue? It’s going to be very interesting.....

(05-24-2019 07:09 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote: [ -> ]Brexit.....or spying on Trump? Maybe a little of the last. The day after Trump orders the declassification of this issue? It’s going to be very interesting.....

I had to look it up. She became Prime Minister on July 11, 2016. David Cameron was the Prime Minister prior to that. Stephen Halper's initial encounter with Carter Page at the London symposium happened to take place on July 11–12, 2016.

However, Mifsud met Papadopoulos in London on March 24.

Papa's meeting with Alexander Downer in London was on May 6.

She may well have been engaged in spying, but it began before her and could be relatively innocent (she walked into an active operation and was duped).


Remember, Cameron was actively engaged in anti-Brexit related information warfare.

Cameron gave her an impossible task, whomever followed him was going to have the same fate.

(05-24-2019 07:09 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote: [ -> ]Brexit.....or spying on Trump? Maybe a little of the last. The day after Trump orders the declassification of this issue? It’s going to be very interesting.....

not really

(05-24-2019 07:27 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 07:09 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote: [ -> ]Brexit.....or spying on Trump? Maybe a little of the last. The day after Trump orders the declassification of this issue? It’s going to be very interesting.....

I had to look it up. She became Prime Minister on July 11, 2016. David Cameron was the Prime Minister prior to that. Stephen Halper's initial encounter with Carter Page at the London symposium happened to take place on July 11–12, 2016.

However, Mifsud met Papadopoulos in London on March 24.

Papa's meeting with Alexander Downer in London was on May 6.

She may well have been engaged in spying, but it began before her and could be relatively innocent (she walked into an active operation and was duped).


Remember, Cameron was actively engaged in anti-Brexit related information warfare.

Remember Trump was warned during the transition by a whistleblower (can’t remember his name) that the Trump Tower was not secure and was under surveillance. Trump moved his transition team after that. That’s where the wiretapping comment came from. At this same time there are reports that the obama administration had asked the British government to surveil The Trump team to give them insulation. This may be revealed in this declassification order. We shall see.

(05-24-2019 05:16 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/the...index.html
Breaking news out of the UK.

After fumbling Brexit so badly, she really had no other option. She is no Margaret Thatcher, that's for sure.

Complete disaster.

(05-24-2019 08:19 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 05:16 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/the...index.html
Breaking news out of the UK.

After fumbling Brexit so badly, she really had no other option. She is no Margaret Thatcher, that's for sure.

She isn't, no doubt, but unsure what anyone else can do when you can't get a consensus on what a Brexit deal should look like from those in Parliament.

I think that is why Cameron bailed so quickly after the referendum.

(05-24-2019 08:33 AM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 08:19 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 05:16 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/the...index.html
Breaking news out of the UK.

After fumbling Brexit so badly, she really had no other option. She is no Margaret Thatcher, that's for sure.

She isn't, no doubt, but unsure what anyone else can do when you can't get a consensus on what a Brexit deal should look like from those in Parliament.

I think that is why Cameron bailed so quickly after the referendum.

The people voted to leave the European Union. Seems pretty simple to me. Not sure why she thought a deal needed to be in place to exercise their sovereign right.

(05-24-2019 08:57 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 08:33 AM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 08:19 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 05:16 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/the...index.html
Breaking news out of the UK.

After fumbling Brexit so badly, she really had no other option. She is no Margaret Thatcher, that's for sure.

She isn't, no doubt, but unsure what anyone else can do when you can't get a consensus on what a Brexit deal should look like from those in Parliament.

I think that is why Cameron bailed so quickly after the referendum.

The people voted to leave the European Union. Seems pretty simple to me. Not sure why she thought a deal needed to be in place to exercise their sovereign right.

Cause every economist says leaving without a deal would be very painful, which may mean that the conservatives lose parliament the next go around.

(05-24-2019 07:52 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 07:27 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 07:09 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote: [ -> ]Brexit.....or spying on Trump? Maybe a little of the last. The day after Trump orders the declassification of this issue? It’s going to be very interesting.....

I had to look it up. She became Prime Minister on July 11, 2016. David Cameron was the Prime Minister prior to that. Stephen Halper's initial encounter with Carter Page at the London symposium happened to take place on July 11–12, 2016.

However, Mifsud met Papadopoulos in London on March 24.

Papa's meeting with Alexander Downer in London was on May 6.

She may well have been engaged in spying, but it began before her and could be relatively innocent (she walked into an active operation and was duped).


Remember, Cameron was actively engaged in anti-Brexit related information warfare.

Remember Trump was warned during the transition by a whistleblower (can’t remember his name) that the Trump Tower was not secure and was under surveillance. Trump moved his transition team after that. That’s where the wiretapping comment came from. At this same time there are reports that the obama administration had asked the British government to surveil The Trump team to give them insulation. This may be revealed in this declassification order. We shall see.

Admiral Mike Rogers, otherwise known as the man who saved america. (Or will be)

(05-24-2019 09:09 AM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 08:57 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]

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(05-24-2019 08:19 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 05:16 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/the...index.html
Breaking news out of the UK.

After fumbling Brexit so badly, she really had no other option. She is no Margaret Thatcher, that's for sure.

She isn't, no doubt, but unsure what anyone else can do when you can't get a consensus on what a Brexit deal should look like from those in Parliament.

I think that is why Cameron bailed so quickly after the referendum.

The people voted to leave the European Union. Seems pretty simple to me. Not sure why she thought a deal needed to be in place to exercise their sovereign right.

Cause every economist says leaving without a deal would be very painful, which may mean that the conservatives lose parliament the next go around.

Again, the people voted to leave. Simple schit. And no, not every economist, just the economists the fake news media chose to highlight. Trump even offered her preferential treatment to help make things right if the Eurocrats weren't bluffing (they are). With the USA buying all their schit as a backup plan, it is going to be a lot more painful for the Eurocrats than the UK. May's problem is she is on the wrong side and tried to avert the will of the people. Cameron resigned for the same reason. And Brexit was not a party line vote. Many labor strongholds like Newcastle voted for it.

(05-24-2019 09:09 AM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 08:57 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 08:33 AM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 08:19 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 05:16 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/the...index.html
Breaking news out of the UK.

After fumbling Brexit so badly, she really had no other option. She is no Margaret Thatcher, that's for sure.

She isn't, no doubt, but unsure what anyone else can do when you can't get a consensus on what a Brexit deal should look like from those in Parliament.

I think that is why Cameron bailed so quickly after the referendum.

The people voted to leave the European Union. Seems pretty simple to me. Not sure why she thought a deal needed to be in place to exercise their sovereign right.

Cause every economist says leaving without a deal would be very painful, which may mean that the conservatives lose parliament the next go around.

EU is playing hardball. May didn't. She wants to pay them for the right to leave and then still give them some control. She is trying to pretend to leave without really leaving.

Next Prime Minister needs to step up, say we are leaving October 31. Most important thing is to get rid of the uncertainty and let people plan. Say we aren't paying the EU a dime. Say we would like a trade deal, but don't need one. And have some special arrangement for Irish nationals at the Northern Ireland border.

BORIS

(05-24-2019 11:01 AM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 09:09 AM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 08:57 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 08:33 AM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 08:19 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]After fumbling Brexit so badly, she really had no other option. She is no Margaret Thatcher, that's for sure.

She isn't, no doubt, but unsure what anyone else can do when you can't get a consensus on what a Brexit deal should look like from those in Parliament.

I think that is why Cameron bailed so quickly after the referendum.

The people voted to leave the European Union. Seems pretty simple to me. Not sure why she thought a deal needed to be in place to exercise their sovereign right.

Cause every economist says leaving without a deal would be very painful, which may mean that the conservatives lose parliament the next go around.

EU is playing hardball. May didn't. She wants to pay them for the right to leave and then still give them some control. She is trying to pretend to leave without really leaving.

Next Prime Minister needs to step up, say we are leaving October 31. Most important thing is to get rid of the uncertainty and let people plan. Say we aren't paying the EU a dime. Say we would like a trade deal, but don't need one. And have some special arrangement for Irish nationals at the Northern Ireland border.

What do you think would be the best way to address the Ireland situation? It sounds like having a hard border between Ireland and Northern Ireland is a non-starter... So do you go with the backstop?

If you leave the border open between Northern Ireland and Ireland, then all goods shipped between Great Britain and Northern Ireland would have to be checked for customs and standards.... Which would be a headache to say the least.

(05-24-2019 11:05 AM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]BORIS

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/...tic-brexit

"...Johnson said he would prepare for no-deal, go back to Brussels to renegotiate the toxic Irish backstop, and make clear that he’s prepared to leave without a deal if the EU says no. He said he believes the U.K. will leave the EU on Oct. 31 -- the latest deadline -- with or without a deal.

He has long indicated that he’d be willing to pull the U.K. out of the bloc without a deal and has criticized May for surrendering to the EU. That has spooked markets, and the pound has weakened on concerns that a hardliner would pursue a no-deal exit.

A No-Deal Brexit Is Back on Table: Five Things You Need to Know

Johnson’s other tactic is to get Parliament to rule out the possibility of canceling Brexit --- an option the U.K. legally has. That would make the threat of no-deal more credible, and could concentrate minds in the EU, where some officials continue to hope that the U.K. might change its mind."

(05-24-2019 12:12 PM)BobcatEngineer Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 11:01 AM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 09:09 AM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 08:57 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 08:33 AM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]She isn't, no doubt, but unsure what anyone else can do when you can't get a consensus on what a Brexit deal should look like from those in Parliament.

I think that is why Cameron bailed so quickly after the referendum.

The people voted to leave the European Union. Seems pretty simple to me. Not sure why she thought a deal needed to be in place to exercise their sovereign right.

Cause every economist says leaving without a deal would be very painful, which may mean that the conservatives lose parliament the next go around.

EU is playing hardball. May didn't. She wants to pay them for the right to leave and then still give them some control. She is trying to pretend to leave without really leaving.

Next Prime Minister needs to step up, say we are leaving October 31. Most important thing is to get rid of the uncertainty and let people plan. Say we aren't paying the EU a dime. Say we would like a trade deal, but don't need one. And have some special arrangement for Irish nationals at the Northern Ireland border.

What do you think would be the best way to address the Ireland situation? It sounds like having a hard border between Ireland and Northern Ireland is a non-starter... So do you go with the backstop?

If you leave the border open between Northern Ireland and Ireland, then all goods shipped between Great Britain and Northern Ireland would have to be checked for customs and standards.... Which would be a headache to say the least.

Its not a non-starter. That's just a red herring. You just have to solve the problem. There was peace before the border went away. There was trade before the border went away. Too many people are just stuck on how things are now. Remember the story of the man who didn't know it couldn't be done so he went out and did it?

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(05-24-2019 08:19 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]

(05-24-2019 05:16 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]https://www.cnn.com/europe/live-news/the...index.html
Breaking news out of the UK.

After fumbling Brexit so badly, she really had no other option. She is no Margaret Thatcher, that's for sure.

She isn't, no doubt, but unsure what anyone else can do when you can't get a consensus on what a Brexit deal should look like from those in Parliament.
I think that is why Cameron bailed so quickly after the referendum.

You don’t wait for them to form a consensus. You tell them how the cow is going to eat the cabbage, and then you whip them into line.