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I'm really interested to see how our few liberal friends on this board answer these questions, and please be specific.

How has President Trump's actions changed your life?

How has President Trump's actions changed this country?
Quote:How has President Trump's actions changed your life?

Hasn't really. Wife and I had great jobs and health insurance before and still have them. The tariffs have impacted my industry a little bit, but our suppliers have just moved manufacturing to Mexico since the tariffs are on computer parts not whole units. Tax time was nice, not because of the tax break but the increase for having small children.

Quote:How has President Trump's actions changed this country?

Division started under the last president has only been continued by this one. The left have their share of the blame to carry for it, but DJT has certainly not followed through on his call for unity he shared on election night.
(05-23-2019 10:16 AM)bobdizole Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:How has President Trump's actions changed your life?

Hasn't really. Wife and I had great jobs and health insurance before and still have them. The tariffs have impacted my industry a little bit, but our suppliers have just moved manufacturing to Mexico since the tariffs are on computer parts not whole units. Tax time was nice, not because of the tax break but the increase for having small children.

Quote:How has President Trump's actions changed this country?

Division started under the last president has only been continued by this one. The left have their share of the blame to carry for it, but DJT has certainly not followed through on his call for unity he shared on election night.

Please expound. I aint buying it but maybe you can convince me.
Overton Window


He has normalized the absurd.
(05-23-2019 11:19 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 10:16 AM)bobdizole Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:How has President Trump's actions changed your life?

Hasn't really. Wife and I had great jobs and health insurance before and still have them. The tariffs have impacted my industry a little bit, but our suppliers have just moved manufacturing to Mexico since the tariffs are on computer parts not whole units. Tax time was nice, not because of the tax break but the increase for having small children.

Quote:How has President Trump's actions changed this country?

Division started under the last president has only been continued by this one. The left have their share of the blame to carry for it, but DJT has certainly not followed through on his call for unity he shared on election night.

Please expound. I aint buying it but maybe you can convince me.

The difficulty in that is the same as trying to explain to a leftist that Obama was divisive. If you are pre-disposed to agree with someone you are not going to see the effects their words have on people you disagree with. Take MSM out of it and just review DJT's twitter feed for the past couple of years and it's pretty clear unity is not his priority. Does it personally affect me or hurt my feelings. God no. My state of mind is not determined by the idiots in government or any other human outside of my family for that matter. But the 180 degree turn on election night to call for unity and then return to exactly who we all know he is was quite disappointing. Maybe DJT is what the country needed right now(the economy would certainly point to that), but sooner or later be it a lefty or a righty we are going to need someone in the white house that can unite the country before the far end's of either party descend into madness.
(05-23-2019 11:37 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]Overton Window


He has normalized the absurd.

So, I said be specific on what Trump has done, so please be specific and explain your answers.
(05-23-2019 11:39 AM)bobdizole Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 11:19 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 10:16 AM)bobdizole Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:How has President Trump's actions changed your life?

Hasn't really. Wife and I had great jobs and health insurance before and still have them. The tariffs have impacted my industry a little bit, but our suppliers have just moved manufacturing to Mexico since the tariffs are on computer parts not whole units. Tax time was nice, not because of the tax break but the increase for having small children.

Quote:How has President Trump's actions changed this country?

Division started under the last president has only been continued by this one. The left have their share of the blame to carry for it, but DJT has certainly not followed through on his call for unity he shared on election night.

Please expound. I aint buying it but maybe you can convince me.

The difficulty in that is the same as trying to explain to a leftist that Obama was divisive. If you are pre-disposed to agree with someone you are not going to see the effects their words have on people you disagree with. Take MSM out of it and just review DJT's twitter feed for the past couple of years and it's pretty clear unity is not his priority. Does it personally affect me or hurt my feelings. God no. My state of mind is not determined by the idiots in government or any other human outside of my family for that matter. But the 180 degree turn on election night to call for unity and then return to exactly who we all know he is was quite disappointing. Maybe DJT is what the country needed right now(the economy would certainly point to that), but sooner or later be it a lefty or a righty we are going to need someone in the white house that can unite the country before the far end's of either party descend into madness.

I can see that being a failed promise and I agree with you on that, but has it actually changed the Country one way or another. I would contend, no, but you I'm open to how you see it.
How has President Trump's actions changed your life?
Since 2014/2015 I've been looking for other employment something to get my family more stable, but the jobs were not there. Economy was not doing well and construction was stalling, most companies refused to look at anyone they would have to move... In 2015 I moved in to our home office, and was shortly offered a shot to go overseas to work, where we were thriving.. Fast forward to last year, I applied for handful of jobs, one called, I interviewed, and boom, got my family moved to a place where we could be more stable, my wife close to home, and this company is thriving so much they have to turn down work. The company I worked for the last 12 years struggled from 2010 until this past year due to economy, regulations, and new business practices the US Government felt needed to be implemented.


How has President Trump's actions changed this country?
I think we've seen alot of bitterness to each other in the last 2+ years due to him being elected. Just look here at the bitterness at the posters.. I had a lady tell me since I was from Mississippi I must've voted for Trump.. Told her yep, I'm a Christian, I own guns, I eat red meat, I kill animals for food, and I'm Pro-Life.. How else can I offend you today.. Her rant was all about how "Your President" is destroying this country.. I stopped her and stated, "Ma'am, he's your president too. He was elected and sworn in. He is the President.".. To which she went off on the tangent of the whole Russian Collusion Delusion. Was Trump truly at fault for the bitterness? Some of it.. He didn't help matters when everyone in the media and left came at him, he basically drank kerosene and pissed on the fire.
(05-23-2019 11:50 AM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 11:37 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]Overton Window


He has normalized the absurd.

So, I said be specific on what Trump has done, so please be specific and explain your answers.

Debating ***** size starting out a presidential debate.
(05-23-2019 12:17 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 11:50 AM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 11:37 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]Overton Window


He has normalized the absurd.

So, I said be specific on what Trump has done, so please be specific and explain your answers.

Debating ***** size starting out a presidential debate.

So an idiotic comment that he made during the primaries has changed your life. That is pretty pathetic for you to be that affected by something so insignificant. PATHETIC.
(05-23-2019 12:23 PM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 12:17 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 11:50 AM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 11:37 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]Overton Window


He has normalized the absurd.

So, I said be specific on what Trump has done, so please be specific and explain your answers.

Debating ***** size starting out a presidential debate.

So an idiotic comment that he made during the primaries has changed your life. That is pretty pathetic for you to be that affected by something so insignificant. PATHETIC.

It's not at all presidential and it should have disqualified him.

Asking Russia to hack Hilary's emails and then them doing just that. You don't want specifics. It would take hours to type.
He really hasn't changed my life but I will speak on a few democrats that I know. Low income democrats that actually depend on a weekly pay check on which bills they will put off till the next one.

As I said before I know a few people (actually a lot) that work at Wal Mart, these are those people that did not go to college, for whatever reason. But they worked their whole life. Before the President took office they were making $9.00 an hour and with in 16 months their pay jumped to $12 an hour. That might not sound like much to some of you....its a game changer to those people working for $9 an hour and then go to $12.

Lets put it this way, before taxes that's $481 dollars a month that they did not have. I personally know 2 couples that went from renting a 2 bedroom home for $650 a month to being able to buy their own home, on the same street they live on, same price range as they were paying rent on.....now their loan payment, including, taxes and insurance is only $452 a month.

My youngest son who's 24 and decided college is not for him just went from $13.50 an hour to starting out at ACOLA at $29 an hour, with great benefits and a **** load of OT. This is a new line that just got running..a year in the making.

In my home city of Bowling Green KY (I live about 70 miles northwest) they just opened 400 new jobs at the GM Corvette plant. This might have happened anyways, I dont know but it did happen under this President....that I do know. My nephew started working there this past year, at a starting pay of $25 an hour.

Now if the democrats had their way....would any of the above happened?

BTW I have a friend that works at the Housing Authority and she said the wait time to get in a government home or apartment is at a all time low. Well since Clinton's effort to get people off welfare. So while there are people still filling up these homes. The turnover as more and more people start working at these new jobs and higher paying jobs (yes $12 an hour is higher paying) they are moving out. You will always have those that are going to choose welfare over a job. But the numbers have changed over the past 2 years....the number of Sr. and disabled out number, families, living there.
(05-23-2019 11:39 AM)bobdizole Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 11:19 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 10:16 AM)bobdizole Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:How has President Trump's actions changed your life?

Hasn't really. Wife and I had great jobs and health insurance before and still have them. The tariffs have impacted my industry a little bit, but our suppliers have just moved manufacturing to Mexico since the tariffs are on computer parts not whole units. Tax time was nice, not because of the tax break but the increase for having small children.

Quote:How has President Trump's actions changed this country?

Division started under the last president has only been continued by this one. The left have their share of the blame to carry for it, but DJT has certainly not followed through on his call for unity he shared on election night.

Please expound. I aint buying it but maybe you can convince me.

The difficulty in that is the same as trying to explain to a leftist that Obama was divisive. If you are pre-disposed to agree with someone you are not going to see the effects their words have on people you disagree with. Take MSM out of it and just review DJT's twitter feed for the past couple of years and it's pretty clear unity is not his priority. Does it personally affect me or hurt my feelings. God no. My state of mind is not determined by the idiots in government or any other human outside of my family for that matter. But the 180 degree turn on election night to call for unity and then return to exactly who we all know he is was quite disappointing. Maybe DJT is what the country needed right now(the economy would certainly point to that), but sooner or later be it a lefty or a righty we are going to need someone in the white house that can unite the country before the far end's of either party descend into madness.



Unifying the country is a pipe dream at this point.

To many are far too invested in division. The rich elites are not interested in unity, They thrive on division.

I wish I was wrong but we have to face reality.
1.) I'm on Twitter more

2.) My neighborhood is worse and people are more divided.
(05-23-2019 12:40 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 12:23 PM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 12:17 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 11:50 AM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 11:37 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]Overton Window


He has normalized the absurd.

So, I said be specific on what Trump has done, so please be specific and explain your answers.

Debating ***** size starting out a presidential debate.

So an idiotic comment that he made during the primaries has changed your life. That is pretty pathetic for you to be that affected by something so insignificant. PATHETIC.

It's not at all presidential and it should have disqualified him.

Asking Russia to hack Hilary's emails and then them doing just that. You don't want specifics. It would take hours to type.

Oh, so I don't want specifics...thanks for clarifying my request for me.
Can somebody explain to me with specific actions that created or worsened "division"?
(05-23-2019 12:58 PM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ]Can somebody explain to me with specific actions that created or worsened "division"?

Twitter.

President Trump is the first president that used Twitter to get out his message and with that sometimes he takes it a step to far. But I dont think it's because of the President causing the division. Twitter and Facebook gives people more of a voice and today MSM uses Twitter post like they makeup a large percentage of the people. They dont! but once you add in the media repeating the crap......

it's like a game of telephone
(05-23-2019 12:58 PM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ]Can somebody explain to me with specific actions that created or worsened "division"?

For the record, President Trump is no where in the same zip code as President Obama when it comes to dividing the nation.

But one example that comes to my mind is DJT's lying about his tax returns. It was a lie when he promised to release them. It remains a lie today. And it is no small matter.

This lie has plainly added to the division of this nation. It has triggered justifiable suspicion in liberals and it has turned his conservative defenders into total hypocrites.

I don't personally care to know what is in his tax returns. And this lie does not compare to the Obama administration lies that led to my now disasterously expensive health care coverage. But it was (and remains) a divisive lie nonetheless.
(05-23-2019 12:17 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 11:50 AM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 11:37 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]Overton Window


He has normalized the absurd.

So, I said be specific on what Trump has done, so please be specific and explain your answers.

Debating ***** size starting out a presidential debate.




(05-23-2019 12:17 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 11:50 AM)GrayBeard Wrote: [ -> ]
(05-23-2019 11:37 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]Overton Window


He has normalized the absurd.

So, I said be specific on what Trump has done, so please be specific and explain your answers.

Debating ***** size starting out a presidential debate.

There was no debate. Hillary's was larger than Bernies.
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