CSNbbs

In 1975 Niki Lauda was a young F1 driver who ended up winning his first of three World Championships.

In Aug of 1976, he was nearly killed in an accident in the German Grand Prix after his car crashed and caught fire. (He had called for a driver boycott of the event due to the facilities lack of safety and fire equipment before the event took place, but the drivers voted to run) He was severely burnt and inhaled deadly fumes from his burning car. Even after spending 6 weeks in the hospital and surviving third-degree burns to his face and head. Returned to the track before the end of the season and barely lost the world title.

After massive reconstructed surgery, he returned fulltime to F1 in 1977 and won his second world title.

And some still claim that Eldricks comeback from self-imposed drug usage is a bigger comeback.

Hell, that doesn't even match the comeback of Alex Zanardi who lost both legs during a CART event only to come back and drive competitively two years later.

I'm a huge racing fan and of course Lauda had a huge comeback.

What Lauda did after the 1976 season in NO WAY has anything to do with your hard-on for Tiger Woods.

Literally everyone had written him off between 2010-14.

It's one thing to get half of your face burned off and still be a Champion.

Tiger's issues were so mental that it was actually more grotesque to see what he had become after dominating golf for fifteen years.

he doesn't like black people.

(04-20-2019 10:06 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote: [ -> ]he doesn't like black people.

What’s sad is he seems to think it’s veiled but to everyone else it’s obvious

(04-20-2019 10:06 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote: [ -> ]he doesn't like black people.

WOW, exactly when did Danica and Tony Stewart become black?

Someone needs to tell Bubba Wallace that he is now white. And to think all those nights at the track and in the shop and in our homes Otis Lester was really a white racer and not the fastest black man on dirt.


Am so glad you awaken my eyes to my secret beliefs that I never knew about.

(04-20-2019 10:21 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-20-2019 10:06 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote: [ -> ]he doesn't like black people.

What’s sad is he seems to think it’s veiled but to everyone else it’s obvious

I focus on hypocrisy across the board regardless of race. I just do not have a fear of being called racist if I take an opposing point of view.

(04-20-2019 11:10 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-20-2019 10:21 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-20-2019 10:06 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote: [ -> ]he doesn't like black people.

What’s sad is he seems to think it’s veiled but to everyone else it’s obvious

I focus on hypocrisy across the board regardless of race. I just do not have a fear of being called racist if I take an opposing point of view.

You’ve, multiple times, called Tiger Eldrick. You’ve also referred to Tubby as Orlando. These figures have been KNOWN by nicknames for years but you refrain from calling them such. Yet, white athletes you have no problem calling by nicknames. This is by design.

I was told just this morning that the greatest comeback ever is what today is all about.

Just sayin’....

(04-20-2019 11:10 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-20-2019 10:21 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-20-2019 10:06 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote: [ -> ]he doesn't like black people.

What’s sad is he seems to think it’s veiled but to everyone else it’s obvious

I focus on hypocrisy across the board regardless of race. I just do not have a fear of being called racist if I take an opposing point of view.

Sure

Ben Hogan had a bigger comeback than Tiger. Also almost killed in a car wreck. He had a double fracture of his pelvis and other injuries. At first they thought he might never walk again. Spent 59 days in the hospital and three years later at age 40 he won the US and British Opens and the Masters in the same year.

Edit: Forgot to mention he won the US Open just over a year after the accident. 6 of his 9 major wins came after the accident.

(04-20-2019 01:02 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: [ -> ]In 1975 Niki Lauda was a young F1 driver who ended up winning his first of three World Championships.

In Aug of 1976, he was nearly killed in an accident in the German Grand Prix after his car crashed and caught fire. (He had called for a driver boycott of the event due to the facilities lack of safety and fire equipment before the event took place, but the drivers voted to run) He was severely burnt and inhaled deadly fumes from his burning car. Even after spending 6 weeks in the hospital and surviving third-degree burns to his face and head. Returned to the track before the end of the season and barely lost the world title.

After massive reconstructed surgery, he returned fulltime to F1 in 1977 and won his second world title.

And some still claim that Eldricks comeback from self-imposed drug usage is a bigger comeback.

Hell, that doesn't even match the comeback of Alex Zanardi who lost both legs during a CART event only to come back and drive competitively two years later.

its car racin....nobody cares

Tiger's comeback from multiple back surgeries, knee work, etc. to regain world-class form as a golfer is quite amazing. Two years ago, the best doctors in the world were uncertain as to whether he'd be able to walk again, let alone hit a golf ball. When one factors in the turnaround in his personal life (issues that he has publicly admitted to repeatedly), his recent on-course performances are astounding.

Like most folks, I just appreciate his amazing physical/mental abilities while playing perhaps the greatest individual game ever created. He is one of the GOAT at his sport (Nicklaus, Hogan, Nelson, Jones deserve mentions as well), and it's inane for anyone to continue to knock him.

Tiger is, at the end of the day, a fallible human being who has figured out a way to overcome physical and mental challenges (some self-inflicted) to regain his place in his chosen profession. Most Americans just love an improbable comeback against long odds, and Tiger is the poster child in a sports world that could use it right now.

Surprising development. Board's biggest Nascar fan making racially insensitive posts? Who could have seen this coming? I know my go-to place when looking for nuanced takes on race relations is making the trek to a racetrack on a Saturday night to sit with rural caucasians pounding Pabst Blue Ribbons while watching cars drive in circles.

I'm shocked to learn that gambling is taking place in this establishment. What are we going to learn next? That Pam Anderson has breast implants? Lance Armstrong cheated? Liberace was gay? Milli Vanilli lip-synched their songs? Who can we even believe in anymore?

(04-20-2019 01:02 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: [ -> ]In 1975 Niki Lauda was a young F1 driver who ended up winning his first of three World Championships.

In Aug of 1976, he was nearly killed in an accident in the German Grand Prix after his car crashed and caught fire. (He had called for a driver boycott of the event due to the facilities lack of safety and fire equipment before the event took place, but the drivers voted to run) He was severely burnt and inhaled deadly fumes from his burning car. Even after spending 6 weeks in the hospital and surviving third-degree burns to his face and head. Returned to the track before the end of the season and barely lost the world title.

After massive reconstructed surgery, he returned fulltime to F1 in 1977 and won his second world title.

And some still claim that Eldricks comeback from self-imposed drug usage is a bigger comeback.

Hell, that doesn't even match the comeback of Alex Zanardi who lost both legs during a CART event only to come back and drive competitively two years later.

I think this points more to race car drivers not being "athletes" more than it does to comebacks. Racecar drivers skillsets are more similar to video gamers than traditional athletes.

Think about it.

(04-21-2019 03:45 AM)uofmcamaro Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-20-2019 11:10 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-20-2019 10:21 PM)uofmcamaro Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-20-2019 10:06 PM)BandwagonJumper Wrote: [ -> ]he doesn't like black people.

What’s sad is he seems to think it’s veiled but to everyone else it’s obvious

I focus on hypocrisy across the board regardless of race. I just do not have a fear of being called racist if I take an opposing point of view.

You’ve, multiple times, called Tiger Eldrick. You’ve also referred to Tubby as Orlando. These figures have been KNOWN by nicknames for years but you refrain from calling them such. Yet, white athletes you have no problem calling by nicknames. This is by design.

Then you have a case of selected memory.

I have rarely called any athlete by their nickname. Only the small handful which I respect.

By the way, "Bubba" Wallace's real name is Darrel Wallace Jr and I have no problem calling this black athlete by his nickname Bubba.

When was the last time I called "Joey" Dorsey by the name Richard or Elmer?

Show me all those times I called coach Hardaway by the name Anfernee or Deon?

You see and hear what you want to see and hear so that it fits within your personal agenda.

You cannot discuss the topic on its merits so you throw out that race card so in your mind you no longer have to defend your position.

(04-22-2019 10:23 AM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-20-2019 01:02 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: [ -> ]In 1975 Niki Lauda was a young F1 driver who ended up winning his first of three World Championships.

In Aug of 1976, he was nearly killed in an accident in the German Grand Prix after his car crashed and caught fire. (He had called for a driver boycott of the event due to the facilities lack of safety and fire equipment before the event took place, but the drivers voted to run) He was severely burnt and inhaled deadly fumes from his burning car. Even after spending 6 weeks in the hospital and surviving third-degree burns to his face and head. Returned to the track before the end of the season and barely lost the world title.

After massive reconstructed surgery, he returned fulltime to F1 in 1977 and won his second world title.

And some still claim that Eldricks comeback from self-imposed drug usage is a bigger comeback.

Hell, that doesn't even match the comeback of Alex Zanardi who lost both legs during a CART event only to come back and drive competitively two years later.

I think this points more to race car drivers not being "athletes" more than it does to comebacks. Racecar drivers skillsets are more similar to video gamers than traditional athletes.

Think about it.

You would crap your pants on the warm-up lap at Indy and most likely would not complete the full lap.

Depending on series a driver loses between 6-10 pounds in an event. Not many video gamers do that. Nor do most other sports participants.

Jimmie Johnson just raced on Saturday night and spent Monday day running the Boston Marathon. Where he was the top finishing "celebrity" finishing almost a hour ahead of NE Patriot "athlete" Teddy Bruschi.

What was your time in that event this year?

After retirement, his plans are to run the Iron Man. Will you be joining him?

Why not go out to MIR some weekend when the Rusty Wallace driving experience is operating and try your hands at this "video game" you speak of?


In a recent interview for my Memphis Racing History site, local racing legend Eddie Ray Alexander let it be known that he TURNED DOWN a full football scholarship at Ole Miss because it would prevent him from racing as much as he liked. And this was during the Johnny Vaught era when Ole Miss was a challenger for the SEC title and ranked every year. Damn who would have thought a top coach in a top college program of that era would offer a video game skilled player.

(04-22-2019 12:46 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: [ -> ]You cannot discuss the topic on its merits so you throw out that race card so in your mind you no longer have to defend your position.

The hilarious part is that I am a middle class white guy who, in his mid 30's, can admit that I have never cared for Tiger in the slightest and you almost have me defending him.

(04-22-2019 01:29 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-22-2019 10:23 AM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-20-2019 01:02 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: [ -> ]In 1975 Niki Lauda was a young F1 driver who ended up winning his first of three World Championships.

In Aug of 1976, he was nearly killed in an accident in the German Grand Prix after his car crashed and caught fire. (He had called for a driver boycott of the event due to the facilities lack of safety and fire equipment before the event took place, but the drivers voted to run) He was severely burnt and inhaled deadly fumes from his burning car. Even after spending 6 weeks in the hospital and surviving third-degree burns to his face and head. Returned to the track before the end of the season and barely lost the world title.

After massive reconstructed surgery, he returned fulltime to F1 in 1977 and won his second world title.

And some still claim that Eldricks comeback from self-imposed drug usage is a bigger comeback.

Hell, that doesn't even match the comeback of Alex Zanardi who lost both legs during a CART event only to come back and drive competitively two years later.

I think this points more to race car drivers not being "athletes" more than it does to comebacks. Racecar drivers skillsets are more similar to video gamers than traditional athletes.

Think about it.

You would crap your pants on the warm-up lap at Indy and most likely would not complete the full lap.

Depending on series a driver loses between 6-10 pounds in an event. Not many video gamers do that. Nor do most other sports participants.

Jimmie Johnson just raced on Saturday night and spent Monday day running the Boston Marathon. Where he was the top finishing "celebrity" finishing almost a hour ahead of NE Patriot "athlete" Teddy Bruschi.

What was your time in that event this year?

After retirement, his plans are to run the Iron Man. Will you be joining him?

Why not go out to MIR some weekend when the Rusty Wallace driving experience is operating and try your hands at this "video game" you speak of?


In a recent interview for my Memphis Racing History site, local racing legend Eddie Ray Alexander let it be known that he TURNED DOWN a full football scholarship at Ole Miss because it would prevent him from racing as much as he liked. And this was during the Johnny Vaught era when Ole Miss was a challenger for the SEC title and ranked every year. Damn who would have thought a top coach in a top college program of that era would offer a video game skilled player.

In all reality that was pretty damn impressive.

JJ flirted with a 3 hour marathon (3:09:07) and when most folks are chilling 48 hours before running, he was racing 400 miles in Richmond.

That's pretty special.

(04-22-2019 01:29 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-22-2019 10:23 AM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ]

(04-20-2019 01:02 AM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: [ -> ]In 1975 Niki Lauda was a young F1 driver who ended up winning his first of three World Championships.

In Aug of 1976, he was nearly killed in an accident in the German Grand Prix after his car crashed and caught fire. (He had called for a driver boycott of the event due to the facilities lack of safety and fire equipment before the event took place, but the drivers voted to run) He was severely burnt and inhaled deadly fumes from his burning car. Even after spending 6 weeks in the hospital and surviving third-degree burns to his face and head. Returned to the track before the end of the season and barely lost the world title.

After massive reconstructed surgery, he returned fulltime to F1 in 1977 and won his second world title.

And some still claim that Eldricks comeback from self-imposed drug usage is a bigger comeback.

Hell, that doesn't even match the comeback of Alex Zanardi who lost both legs during a CART event only to come back and drive competitively two years later.

I think this points more to race car drivers not being "athletes" more than it does to comebacks. Racecar drivers skillsets are more similar to video gamers than traditional athletes.

Think about it.

You would crap your pants on the warm-up lap at Indy and most likely would not complete the full lap.

Depending on series a driver loses between 6-10 pounds in an event. Not many video gamers do that. Nor do most other sports participants.

Jimmie Johnson just raced on Saturday night and spent Monday day running the Boston Marathon. Where he was the top finishing "celebrity" finishing almost a hour ahead of NE Patriot "athlete" Teddy Bruschi.

What was your time in that event this year?

After retirement, his plans are to run the Iron Man. Will you be joining him?

Why not go out to MIR some weekend when the Rusty Wallace driving experience is operating and try your hands at this "video game" you speak of?


In a recent interview for my Memphis Racing History site, local racing legend Eddie Ray Alexander let it be known that he TURNED DOWN a full football scholarship at Ole Miss because it would prevent him from racing as much as he liked. And this was during the Johnny Vaught era when Ole Miss was a challenger for the SEC title and ranked every year. Damn who would have thought a top coach in a top college program of that era would offer a video game skilled player.

Just because the a driver is athletic doesn't make everyone in nascar an athlete