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Does anybody know what schools Hill or Gordon will be attending?
Apparently he wants more long term depth via a HS recruit or a definitive immediate impact grad transfer than a JC player. I have some misgivings as well about JC players based mostly on stereotypes I guess ( grades, discipline, etc). Am I justified in these feelings? Perhaps not but I think some coaches and many fans share this opinion and coach K may be one of them. I’m excited to see who we land to round out the recruiting class!!!!!!!!!

It’s a good article.

I think we’ll see a center, PG, and fwd in the 2020 class.

Go Rockets!
(04-19-2019 11:27 AM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote: [ -> ]Apparently he wants more long term depth via a HS recruit or a definitive immediate impact grad transfer than a JC player. I have some misgivings as well about JC players based mostly on stereotypes I guess ( grades, discipline, etc). Am I justified in these feelings? Perhaps not but I think some coaches and many fans share this opinion and coach K may be one of them. I’m excited to see who we land to round out the recruiting class!!!!!!!!!

It’s a good article.

I think we’ll see a center, PG, and fwd in the 2020 class.

Go Rockets!
I hope the Guard he wants is a Grad transfer then he can turn that scholarship over in 2020
(04-19-2019 11:43 AM)rocketpaul Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-19-2019 11:27 AM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote: [ -> ]Apparently he wants more long term depth via a HS recruit or a definitive immediate impact grad transfer than a JC player. I have some misgivings as well about JC players based mostly on stereotypes I guess ( grades, discipline, etc). Am I justified in these feelings? Perhaps not but I think some coaches and many fans share this opinion and coach K may be one of them. I’m excited to see who we land to round out the recruiting class!!!!!!!!!

It’s a good article.

I think we’ll see a center, PG, and fwd in the 2020 class.

Go Rockets!
I hope the Guard he wants is a Grad transfer then he can turn that scholarship over in 2020

Best case would be grad transfer, and then add a high quality freshmen for 2020. getting a freshman to come in now and contribute maybe difficulty, a grad transfer should be more mature physically and mentally.
I'd still like to see us get a true power forward, because I don't see one on the roster. I'm not talking just height; I mean someone 6'7" or taller who has upper body strength and isn't easily moved. Even if we play Knapke & Edu at the same time, I don't see either as filling that particular need. And I'm not even looking for anyone who has to get "starter's minutes"--just someone who can effectively take advantage when the game & opponent present an opportunity.
(04-19-2019 12:06 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote: [ -> ]I'd still like to see us get a true power forward, because I don't see one on the roster. I'm not talking just height; I mean someone 6'7" or taller who has upper body strength and isn't easily moved. Even if we play Knapke & Edu at the same time, I don't see either as filling that particular need. And I'm not even looking for anyone who has to get "starter's minutes"--just someone who can effectively take advantage when the game & opponent present an opportunity.

Acunzo at 6'8 230 can fill that role although Kowalczyk talks about him as a perimeter player. Etherington is 6'6 215 and according to TK "bouncier and stronger than Navigato". I am a little worried about keeping these young guys healthy. Etherington, Moore and Acunzo all missed most of their senior years due to injuries and Maranka's not physically ready for Div 1 hoops.
Apparently Alderson is staying at Toledo. Maybe Coach K will put him back into the rotation but he got very few minutes during the second half of this season. I would watch him pregame. He would shoot 3s with Navigato and he was just as good. However, he never really made an offensive impact in his 2 seasons so far.
BTW - there are a lot of Grad transfer guards listed in the transfer portal. One of the better ones in Jaevin Cumberland from Oakland but he may be headed to Cincinnati where his brother is on the team.

https://watchstadium.com/news/comprehens...2-29-2018/
Apparently NCAA just eased transfer rules. If the head coach left the program, a player can transfer without sitting out a year.
(04-19-2019 12:22 PM)Sleepy Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-19-2019 12:06 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote: [ -> ]I'd still like to see us get a true power forward, because I don't see one on the roster. I'm not talking just height; I mean someone 6'7" or taller who has upper body strength and isn't easily moved. Even if we play Knapke & Edu at the same time, I don't see either as filling that particular need. And I'm not even looking for anyone who has to get "starter's minutes"--just someone who can effectively take advantage when the game & opponent present an opportunity.

Acunzo at 6'8 230 can fill that role although Kowalczyk talks about him as a perimeter player. Etherington is 6'6 215 and according to TK "bouncier and stronger than Navigato". I am a little worried about keeping these young guys healthy. Etherington, Moore and Acunzo all missed most of their senior years due to injuries and Maranka's not physically ready for Div 1 hoops.

Acunzo missed almost his entire senior season injured. I don't think he was a starter.
(04-19-2019 04:51 PM)DetroitRocket Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-19-2019 12:22 PM)Sleepy Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-19-2019 12:06 PM)bcunn3128 Wrote: [ -> ]I'd still like to see us get a true power forward, because I don't see one on the roster. I'm not talking just height; I mean someone 6'7" or taller who has upper body strength and isn't easily moved. Even if we play Knapke & Edu at the same time, I don't see either as filling that particular need. And I'm not even looking for anyone who has to get "starter's minutes"--just someone who can effectively take advantage when the game & opponent present an opportunity.

Acunzo at 6'8 230 can fill that role although Kowalczyk talks about him as a perimeter player. Etherington is 6'6 215 and according to TK "bouncier and stronger than Navigato". I am a little worried about keeping these young guys healthy. Etherington, Moore and Acunzo all missed most of their senior years due to injuries and Maranka's not physically ready for Div 1 hoops.

Acunzo missed almost his entire senior season injured. I don't think he was a starter.

Acunzo started when he was healthy. He scored 18 pts in the State Championship game which his team won 64-62 in a double overttime thriller.

https://www.philly.com/high-school-sport...90324.html
Acunzo was healthy by late season and was a starter and one of 3 legit D1 guys (one of whome i think was a Mcdonalds all american) on that team that was one of the better HS teams nationally. Acunzo can ball. Sort of an old school guy that sees the game well and can make plays passing, off the dribble or shooting. Not gonna put up huge numbers or dunk on you, but he's sort of a flashy role player type who should make the team better.

I was sort of questioning Etherington who is probably the lowest ranked recruit of the 4, but coach k sounds like they really like him.

Moore is an elite athlete who could be a strong defender and develop into a Rian Pearson type if his offense tightens up. He had an ankle injury but finished the season healthy.

Maranka has major potential. Compared to Knapke as a small town big guy who needs a year to get stronger and adjust to the competition level, but he's more athletic and has a nice feel for offense. I think he will gradually grow into an all-mac big man in 3 or 4 years.

Last scholarship should probably be a ready to play grad transfer who can run the point if marreon has a slow recovery or gets hurt again.

Saunders is a key to next year as he could fill sanford's role if he can be consistent. kid can score and defend and is a little bigger and faster than jaelen. i expect his play will be uneven at times, but he's a great prospect.

smith is a wildcard. lower rated recruit who is athletic and can play but has never quite put it together on the court and injuries slowed him down a little as a redshirt. i know the staff likes his potential but he's a guy will need to make plays when he gets a chance or could get buried on the bench and transfer out.

alderson is similar in that he has ability but hasn't really seized his opportunities. he has scoring skills but in games hasn't shown the confidence or comfort level to let those come out which reduces him to a defender and rebounder, things he does pretty well, but not great.
Well said Pono..... I agree with almost everything you state. Dylan’s court time went to zero once conference play started last year so let’s see if he can provide some significant minutes in 2020. It would be a HUGE boost to the teams depth if he could provide 8 to 10 solid MPG next year. I also concur on Smith. I’m concerned that if he doesn’t start strong he could be the “Dylan Alderson” of 2020. Coach K will give him minutes in Dec in order to evaluate and the fans will do likewise. I hope he can help as I would love to see us go 9 deep during conference play versus 7 like last year. If Littleson can start knocking down 3 balls like he did at the end of last season and be a 12 PPG guy then next year’s team could be dangerous.

2020 should be fun.

I love Rocket basketball and it is getting better incrementally which is a good sign.

Go Rockets!!!!
(04-20-2019 08:38 AM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote: [ -> ]Well said Pono..... I agree with almost everything you state. Dylan’s court time went to zero once conference play started last year so let’s see if he can provide some significant minutes in 2020. It would be a HUGE boost to the teams depth if he could provide 8 to 10 solid MPG next year. I also concur on Smith. I’m concerned that if he doesn’t start strong he could be the “Dylan Alderson” of 2020. Coach K will give him minutes in Dec in order to evaluate and the fans will do likewise. I hope he can help as I would love to see us go 9 deep during conference play versus 7 like last year. If Littleson can start knocking down 3 balls like he did at the end of last season and be a 12 PPG guy then next year’s team could be dangerous.

2020 should be fun.

I love Rocket basketball and it is getting better incrementally which is a good sign.

Go Rockets!!!!

We’ll play eight tops because we always play eight tops and pretty much everybody plays eight tops. If we have nine who can give quality double digit minutes on a given night our recruiting is better than I think it is.
Nines a dream, eights a hope, and seven’ s more of a reality.

We have a really solid shot at 8 if we get a grad transfer that can contribute and I don’t think coach K would bring one in if he didn’t think he could.

Go Rockets!!!
(04-20-2019 09:03 AM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote: [ -> ]Nines a dream, eights a hope, and seven’ s more of a reality.

We have a really solid shot at 8 if we get a grad transfer that can contribute and I don’t think coach K would bring one in if he didn’t think he could.

Go Rockets!!!

I can’t recall a grad transfer who hasn’t contributed. Even Anthony Wright provides some shooting and a big body we desperately needed.
(04-19-2019 11:27 AM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote: [ -> ]Apparently he wants more long term depth via a HS recruit or a definitive immediate impact grad transfer than a JC player. I have some misgivings as well about JC players based mostly on stereotypes I guess ( grades, discipline, etc). Am I justified in these feelings? Perhaps not but I think some coaches and many fans share this opinion and coach K may be one of them. I’m excited to see who we land to round out the recruiting class!!!!!!!!!

It’s a good article.

I think we’ll see a center, PG, and fwd in the 2020 class.

Go Rockets!

When I was in high school, I had an excellent teacher for Algebra I but a less experienced teacher for Algebra II. When it came time to move on to Geometry, Trigonometry, and Calculus, I realized what I failed to learn in Algebra II and it caused me to spend more time studying than I should have needed to. Imagine spending your entire educational process in an inferior school system. You could be very bright but fail a college entrance exam. Junior college gives kids that are in that situation an opportunity to prove that they are capable of matriculating at a collegiate level. I like a story of the person who overcomes and triumphs. I also like juco's because they give you two or three years rather than just one. We've had success with grad transfers but I'll take a juco any day of the week.
(04-20-2019 12:38 PM)RocketJeff Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-19-2019 11:27 AM)IamN2daRockets! Wrote: [ -> ]Apparently he wants more long term depth via a HS recruit or a definitive immediate impact grad transfer than a JC player. I have some misgivings as well about JC players based mostly on stereotypes I guess ( grades, discipline, etc). Am I justified in these feelings? Perhaps not but I think some coaches and many fans share this opinion and coach K may be one of them. I’m excited to see who we land to round out the recruiting class!!!!!!!!!

It’s a good article.

I think we’ll see a center, PG, and fwd in the 2020 class.

Go Rockets!

When I was in high school, I had an excellent teacher for Algebra I but a less experienced teacher for Algebra II. When it came time to move on to Geometry, Trigonometry, and Calculus, I realized what I failed to learn in Algebra II and it caused me to spend more time studying than I should have needed to. Imagine spending your entire educational process in an inferior school system. You could be very bright but fail a college entrance exam. Junior college gives kids that are in that situation an opportunity to prove that they are capable of matriculating at a collegiate level. I like a story of the person who overcomes and triumphs. I also like juco's because they give you two or three years rather than just one. We've had success with grad transfers but I'll take a juco any day of the week.

The two things about modern-day jucos that many fail to grasp; 1- a great majority of them are academic qualifiers out of high school that went somewhere D1, struggled or failed as a freshman, then left for a juco.
However, they now bring both juco experience, and the knowledge already of what D1 coaching will be like.

2- many of these guys are also prep school guys, which means they arrive as men, 21, 22 or even 23-years old as juniors.

Yes, some players still fit the old JUCO stereotype ... but just as many or more do not.
good points, but it sounds like with only 2 seniors and 1 true pg on next year's roster coach K will try and get a grad transfer who can help at the point and reopen that scholarship in 2020, unless we stumble onto some freshman prospect too good to pass up
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