(04-04-2019 06:53 AM)ODUODUODU Wrote: [ -> ] (04-03-2019 01:17 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote: [ -> ]Bring back Uncle Fester!!!! Life is better when tek BB is a joke!
Tech football is currently the bigger joke...
I would not count on that....VT has an outstanding recruiting class coming in and many players that are leaving have seen the writing on the wall.
(04-04-2019 08:36 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ] (04-04-2019 06:53 AM)ODUODUODU Wrote: [ -> ] (04-03-2019 01:17 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote: [ -> ]Bring back Uncle Fester!!!! Life is better when tek BB is a joke!
Tech football is currently the bigger joke...
I would not count on that....VT has an outstanding recruiting class coming in and many players that are leaving have seen the writing on the wall.
Agree... They won't be down for long... Getting my jabs in while I can..
VT will announce Young at 8:00 tonight.
I guess they want to stay a football school.
Not the sexiest of hires, but I guess the hope is that for a kid from Radford, this is a dream job that he'll stick around for and build the program the way Beamer did for FB.
Wofford went 30-5 this year in the SoCon with wins over SCar, Coast Car, and then over Seton Hall in the tourney.
They could have done MUCH better.
(04-07-2019 06:08 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]They could have done MUCH better.
Va Tech went for the safe hire here. He won’t get the fan base all jacked up, that’s for sure. But he can coach, his resume is similar to that of a Kermit Davis.
(04-07-2019 06:50 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: [ -> ] (04-07-2019 06:08 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]They could have done MUCH better.
Va Tech went for the safe hire here. He won’t get the fan base all jacked up, that’s for sure. But he can coach, his resume is similar to that of a Kermit Davis.
I doubt he will recruit as well as Buzz and that spells trouble from the get go.
(04-07-2019 06:59 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ] (04-07-2019 06:50 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: [ -> ] (04-07-2019 06:08 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]They could have done MUCH better.
Va Tech went for the safe hire here. He won’t get the fan base all jacked up, that’s for sure. But he can coach, his resume is similar to that of a Kermit Davis.
I doubt he will recruit as well as Buzz and that spells trouble from the get go.
Yep. Buzz was the best coach they’ve had by far. Not even close... it was a borderline miracle they got him in the first place. Back to the bottom half of the ACC most likely for Va Tech b-ball.
They are getting a coach that took a low major, ranked nationally to a 7 seed and played toe to toe with Kentucky, falling just short of the Sweet 16. I don't see how this is seen as a bad hire, other than the fact that they didn't need to pay that much.
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(04-07-2019 08:38 PM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]They are getting a coach that took a low major, ranked nationally to a 7 seed and played toe to toe with Kentucky, falling just short of the Sweet 16. I don't see how this is seen as a bad hire, other than the fact that they didn't need to pay that much.
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He had a bunch of mediocre years as well. His first 6 years make JJ look like Saban.
VT used my method of hiring by choosing a coach who's older and not considered a flight risk.
UVA may be looking for a new coach as well. If UVA wins the tournament, UCLA will offer their head coach position to Tony Bennett. Mark it down.
Of course UCLA is after him but good luck convincing him. Hes already 14th highest, gonna have to Give him alifetime contract.
(04-07-2019 11:08 PM)smudge12 Wrote: [ -> ]I'm sure they - as well as others - will offer Bennett regardless if UVA wins or loses. Whether he takes any is another matter.
UCLA isn't exactly a top destination anymore, and some good careers have been halted by that program. Bennett's an elite coach who deserves an elite program; I'd wait until one of the relevant blue bloods opens up. Coach K (or even Williams) can't be too far from retirement.
Money talks though and UCLA will certainly throw the bank at him.
What would really be interesting is if UVA decided to bid against UCLA's top bidding for a change. That would be a battle of two of America's top five publics and I'm not sure UCLA could win it. Tons of donor potential on both sides.
I'm not sure Bennett would want to leave anyway so probably won't matter. Big income in LA is a lot less than big income in VA--which is one of the reasons UCLA and USC have continued to flounder on coaching searches.
(04-07-2019 09:17 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: [ -> ] (04-07-2019 08:38 PM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]They are getting a coach that took a low major, ranked nationally to a 7 seed and played toe to toe with Kentucky, falling just short of the Sweet 16. I don't see how this is seen as a bad hire, other than the fact that they didn't need to pay that much.
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He had a bunch of mediocre years as well. His first 6 years make JJ look like Saban.
Well yeah, JJ made the Sweet 16, the Elite 8, 2 other NCAA appearances and an NIT championship in his first 6 years, but he also inherited a strong program and didn't have to reinvent the wheel. Who knows how Jones's first 6 years would have gone somewhere like Wofford or Furman?
Young inherited a program that had existed for 5 years and had 0 winning seasons and had to build on his own lessons learned with no head coaching experience. I'm not saying Young is better, I just think it is a bit premature to resign VT to the bottom half of the ACC for eternity. Wofford wasn't an easy situation to walk into. Young will have better talent and access to stronger recruiting at VT. On the flip side, it will also be a player with a bigger ego that will be a tougher buy in to what he is selling and he will be much more pressure from the alumni and student body to perform. Who knows how he will handle it? Low/Mid major success does not always translate to P5 success and vice versa.
(04-08-2019 09:43 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ] (04-07-2019 09:17 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: [ -> ] (04-07-2019 08:38 PM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]They are getting a coach that took a low major, ranked nationally to a 7 seed and played toe to toe with Kentucky, falling just short of the Sweet 16. I don't see how this is seen as a bad hire, other than the fact that they didn't need to pay that much.
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He had a bunch of mediocre years as well. His first 6 years make JJ look like Saban.
Well yeah, JJ made the Sweet 16, the Elite 8, 2 other NCAA appearances and an NIT championship in his first 6 years, but he also inherited a strong program and didn't have to reinvent the wheel. Who knows how Jones's first 6 years would have gone somewhere like Wofford or Furman?
Young inherited a program that had existed for 5 years and had 0 winning seasons and had to build on his own lessons learned with no head coaching experience. I'm not saying Young is better, I just think it is a bit premature to resign VT to the bottom half of the ACC for eternity. Wofford wasn't an easy situation to walk into. Young will have better talent and access to stronger recruiting at VT. On the flip side, it will also be a player with a bigger ego that will be a tougher buy in to what he is selling and he will be much more pressure from the alumni and student body to perform. Who knows how he will handle it? Low/Mid major success does not always translate to P5 success and vice versa.
Well, I was thinking Jones first 6 years at ODU where he took over from a trainwreck 5 win season.
Young didn't have a winning season until year 7. He's had 5 20 win seasons in 17 years. Just 2 years ago, he was coming off of the 2nd straight losing season.
Im not saying Young is a bad coach at all. He's had mixed success at Wofford. He clearly cashed in on a 30 win season. He could work out, but I would be pretty scared to be a Hokie fan. They could have had much more proven commodities.
(04-08-2019 10:46 AM)Gilesfan Wrote: [ -> ] (04-08-2019 09:43 AM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ] (04-07-2019 09:17 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: [ -> ] (04-07-2019 08:38 PM)EverRespect Wrote: [ -> ]They are getting a coach that took a low major, ranked nationally to a 7 seed and played toe to toe with Kentucky, falling just short of the Sweet 16. I don't see how this is seen as a bad hire, other than the fact that they didn't need to pay that much.
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He had a bunch of mediocre years as well. His first 6 years make JJ look like Saban.
Well yeah, JJ made the Sweet 16, the Elite 8, 2 other NCAA appearances and an NIT championship in his first 6 years, but he also inherited a strong program and didn't have to reinvent the wheel. Who knows how Jones's first 6 years would have gone somewhere like Wofford or Furman?
Young inherited a program that had existed for 5 years and had 0 winning seasons and had to build on his own lessons learned with no head coaching experience. I'm not saying Young is better, I just think it is a bit premature to resign VT to the bottom half of the ACC for eternity. Wofford wasn't an easy situation to walk into. Young will have better talent and access to stronger recruiting at VT. On the flip side, it will also be a player with a bigger ego that will be a tougher buy in to what he is selling and he will be much more pressure from the alumni and student body to perform. Who knows how he will handle it? Low/Mid major success does not always translate to P5 success and vice versa.
Well, I was thinking Jones first 6 years at ODU where he took over from a trainwreck 5 win season.
Young didn't have a winning season until year 7. He's had 5 20 win seasons in 17 years. Just 2 years ago, he was coming off of the 2nd straight losing season.
Im not saying Young is a bad coach at all. He's had mixed success at Wofford. He clearly cashed in on a 30 win season. He could work out, but I would be pretty scared to be a Hokie fan. They could have had much more proven commodities.
Jones was a very experienced coach when he started at ODU. Young's first 6 seasons at Wofford were his first 6 seasons as a head coach period. Jones probably would not have done as well coming off the 5-win season if ODU was his first head coaching assignment ever, but who knows? Most people get better at a job with experience until hey eventually hit diminishing returns. That is all I am saying. Jones did have a great 1st 6 years at UVA, but he was given a very good hand and I am sure all the administrative processes and procedures were mature and took care of themselves. Taking over a dumpster fire is a little different and I would imagine he learned a lot from his experiences at American. Young had to start from scratch and work with a lot of trial and error and continuous improvement. Now he is an experienced coach going into a decent situation. We'll see how he does.
This is comical. You are just making excuses.
I don't think Young is a terrible coach, but VT could have done better. Again, experienced Young just came off back to back losing seasons. Did he all of a sudden learn something?
What is comical is you trying to compare someone's performance in an established program with 21 years of coaching experience with someone with no experience in a 5-year old program that has never had a winning season.
Just about everyone has losing seasons in the low majors. Jones had quite a few at American as well, including 10-20 in his last season there. Not sure why you thought Jones would be a great hire for ODU after finishing 10-20 at American, yet Young is a disaster for VT after finishing 30-5 at Wofford.
Doesn't say much for how you regard ODU.