(05-24-2019 10:22 AM)olddawg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 09:46 AM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 09:40 AM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 09:17 AM)olddawg Wrote: [ -> ]Really sucked that we wound up in different football Divisions than ODU. Neither of us had a football rival. W&M has Richmond and UVA has VT. We needed a dance partner.
Does it have to be a Virginia school? What about Towson, or Delaware?
Towson? I've never felt a rivalry with Towson. And not with Delaware anymore at least with me, although I think most JMU fans don't feel on with the Blue Hens. When UD entered the CAA I thought we would become rivals, but it just never happened.
In Basketball it certainly was with RU during the lefty days. Also with basketball in those days. If used to be GMU felt we were their biggest rival, and I really did not feel it with them. Then when Larranaga got to GMU, I think it was more of a mutual
rivalry.
Always liked the Delaware game. Large school, big stadium, usually a decent crowd and a well funded program. It's just that they already have NOVA as a football rival. With Towson, I think that was a "forced" rivalry for a while by the conference. There was a time when it was our yearly closing game.
With the exception of maybe William and Mary I think the Dukes have played Towson the most over the years. Maybe someone can check that stat out. Towson is a very similar school to JMU in a lot of ways.
(05-24-2019 11:59 AM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 10:22 AM)olddawg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 09:46 AM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 09:40 AM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 09:17 AM)olddawg Wrote: [ -> ]Really sucked that we wound up in different football Divisions than ODU. Neither of us had a football rival. W&M has Richmond and UVA has VT. We needed a dance partner.
Does it have to be a Virginia school? What about Towson, or Delaware?
Towson? I've never felt a rivalry with Towson. And not with Delaware anymore at least with me, although I think most JMU fans don't feel on with the Blue Hens. When UD entered the CAA I thought we would become rivals, but it just never happened.
In Basketball it certainly was with RU during the lefty days. Also with basketball in those days. If used to be GMU felt we were their biggest rival, and I really did not feel it with them. Then when Larranaga got to GMU, I think it was more of a mutual
rivalry.
Always liked the Delaware game. Large school, big stadium, usually a decent crowd and a well funded program. It's just that they already have NOVA as a football rival. With Towson, I think that was a "forced" rivalry for a while by the conference. There was a time when it was our yearly closing game.
With the exception of maybe William and Mary I think the Dukes have played Towson the most over the years. Maybe someone can check that stat out. Towson is a very similar school to JMU in a lot of ways.
But Towson ain't a "rival"...ODU on the other hand could be a rival.
The tidewater team with their teeny-tiny new stadium is a natural.
(05-24-2019 11:59 AM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 10:22 AM)olddawg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 09:46 AM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 09:40 AM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 09:17 AM)olddawg Wrote: [ -> ]Really sucked that we wound up in different football Divisions than ODU. Neither of us had a football rival. W&M has Richmond and UVA has VT. We needed a dance partner.
Does it have to be a Virginia school? What about Towson, or Delaware?
Towson? I've never felt a rivalry with Towson. And not with Delaware anymore at least with me, although I think most JMU fans don't feel on with the Blue Hens. When UD entered the CAA I thought we would become rivals, but it just never happened.
In Basketball it certainly was with RU during the lefty days. Also with basketball in those days. If used to be GMU felt we were their biggest rival, and I really did not feel it with them. Then when Larranaga got to GMU, I think it was more of a mutual
rivalry.
Always liked the Delaware game. Large school, big stadium, usually a decent crowd and a well funded program. It's just that they already have NOVA as a football rival. With Towson, I think that was a "forced" rivalry for a while by the conference. There was a time when it was our yearly closing game.
With the exception of maybe William and Mary I think the Dukes have played Towson the most over the years. Maybe someone can check that stat out. Towson is a very similar school to JMU in a lot of ways.
Meh on Towson being a football "rival." We play SFU and Moorehead St often too, but that doesn't make them rivals.
UD felt like a potential rival in years past when they were good, and made deep playoff runs. Still enjoy that game and wish we played them every year. Rocco being there could help fuel the fire a bit again.
(05-24-2019 01:13 PM)JMURocks Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 11:59 AM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 10:22 AM)olddawg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 09:46 AM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 09:40 AM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ]Does it have to be a Virginia school? What about Towson, or Delaware?
Towson? I've never felt a rivalry with Towson. And not with Delaware anymore at least with me, although I think most JMU fans don't feel on with the Blue Hens. When UD entered the CAA I thought we would become rivals, but it just never happened.
In Basketball it certainly was with RU during the lefty days. Also with basketball in those days. If used to be GMU felt we were their biggest rival, and I really did not feel it with them. Then when Larranaga got to GMU, I think it was more of a mutual
rivalry.
Always liked the Delaware game. Large school, big stadium, usually a decent crowd and a well funded program. It's just that they already have NOVA as a football rival. With Towson, I think that was a "forced" rivalry for a while by the conference. There was a time when it was our yearly closing game.
With the exception of maybe William and Mary I think the Dukes have played Towson the most over the years. Maybe someone can check that stat out. Towson is a very similar school to JMU in a lot of ways.
Meh on Towson being a football "rival." We play SFU and Moorehead St often too, but that doesn't make them rivals.
UD felt like a potential rival in years past when they were good, and made deep playoff runs. Still enjoy that game and wish we played them every year. Rocco being there could help fuel the fire a bit again.
Towson isn't on the same level as SFU and Moorhead St., they are a cut above. As a Maryland resident I know a lot of Towson alumni and they do see the Dukes somewhat as a rival. They certainly want to be like the Dukes. The Dukes have played Towson 28 times with a 21-6-1 record starting back in 1976. They played them every year from 1976 to 1993 with the exception of 1980. They didn't play them again until 2004 and then played every year with the exception of 2011 until 2015. They didn't play them again for two years and then played them last year. Maybe you guys don't think they should be a rival because you haven't been following the Dukes as long as I have. I have been following them since I started at Madison College in 1976 which is probably well before you guys were even born.
if we're calling Towson a rival, we might have loosened up the definition of "rival" just a touch. if they're a rival, then who are the bigger rivals before them?
*ticks
*W&M
*UD
*Villanova
*you could make the argument for UNH, at least the last few years
that's half the conference. the word "rival" gets diluted when we use it for everyone. to me, we have one rival: the ticks. if you poll JMU football fans and ask them what FCS team they "hate" more than anyone else, a majority would say Richmond. if you do the same poll at Richmond, they would say us (and if you think they would answer "W&M", go take a visit to AGS and report back to me. if they follow football at all, they say us).
and once again: JMU/Richmond should be the last game of the season, it makes too much sense. let W&M play whoever. but the CAA is just determined to do things how they've always been done, so whatever.
(05-24-2019 05:03 PM)Jay M. Youix Wrote: [ -> ]if we're calling Towson a rival, we might have loosened up the definition of "rival" just a touch. if they're a rival, then who are the bigger rivals before them?
*ticks
*W&M
*UD
*Villanova
*you could make the argument for UNH, at least the last few years
that's half the conference. the word "rival" gets diluted when we use it for everyone. to me, we have one rival: the ticks. if you poll JMU football fans and ask them what FCS team they "hate" more than anyone else, a majority would say Richmond. if you do the same poll at Richmond, they would say us (and if you think they would answer "W&M", go take a visit to AGS and report back to me. if they follow football at all, they say us).
and once again: JMU/Richmond should be the last game of the season, it makes too much sense. let W&M play whoever. but the CAA is just determined to do things how they've always been done, so whatever.
At least the RU game is the second to last week!
(05-24-2019 03:23 PM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 01:13 PM)JMURocks Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 11:59 AM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 10:22 AM)olddawg Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 09:46 AM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ]Towson? I've never felt a rivalry with Towson. And not with Delaware anymore at least with me, although I think most JMU fans don't feel on with the Blue Hens. When UD entered the CAA I thought we would become rivals, but it just never happened.
In Basketball it certainly was with RU during the lefty days. Also with basketball in those days. If used to be GMU felt we were their biggest rival, and I really did not feel it with them. Then when Larranaga got to GMU, I think it was more of a mutual
rivalry.
Always liked the Delaware game. Large school, big stadium, usually a decent crowd and a well funded program. It's just that they already have NOVA as a football rival. With Towson, I think that was a "forced" rivalry for a while by the conference. There was a time when it was our yearly closing game.
With the exception of maybe William and Mary I think the Dukes have played Towson the most over the years. Maybe someone can check that stat out. Towson is a very similar school to JMU in a lot of ways.
Meh on Towson being a football "rival." We play SFU and Moorehead St often too, but that doesn't make them rivals.
UD felt like a potential rival in years past when they were good, and made deep playoff runs. Still enjoy that game and wish we played them every year. Rocco being there could help fuel the fire a bit again.
Towson isn't on the same level as SFU and Moorhead St., they are a cut above. As a Maryland resident I know a lot of Towson alumni and they do see the Dukes somewhat as a rival. They certainly want to be like the Dukes. The Dukes have played Towson 28 times with a 21-6-1 record starting back in 1976. They played them every year from 1976 to 1993 with the exception of 1980. They didn't play them again until 2004 and then played every year with the exception of 2011 until 2015. They didn't play them again for two years and then played them last year. Maybe you guys don't think they should be a rival because you haven't been following the Dukes as long as I have. I have been following them since I started at Madison College in 1976 which is probably well before you guys were even born.
This is why they aren't really a rival. We have basically dominated them for decades. The whole CAA wants to be the Dukes, doesn't make every team a rival.
NDSU is closer to being a rival, like App St and ODU might have been if they had not moved up.
(05-24-2019 05:25 PM)JMURocks Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 03:23 PM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 01:13 PM)JMURocks Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 11:59 AM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 10:22 AM)olddawg Wrote: [ -> ]Always liked the Delaware game. Large school, big stadium, usually a decent crowd and a well funded program. It's just that they already have NOVA as a football rival. With Towson, I think that was a "forced" rivalry for a while by the conference. There was a time when it was our yearly closing game.
With the exception of maybe William and Mary I think the Dukes have played Towson the most over the years. Maybe someone can check that stat out. Towson is a very similar school to JMU in a lot of ways.
Meh on Towson being a football "rival." We play SFU and Moorehead St often too, but that doesn't make them rivals.
UD felt like a potential rival in years past when they were good, and made deep playoff runs. Still enjoy that game and wish we played them every year. Rocco being there could help fuel the fire a bit again.
Towson isn't on the same level as SFU and Moorhead St., they are a cut above. As a Maryland resident I know a lot of Towson alumni and they do see the Dukes somewhat as a rival. They certainly want to be like the Dukes. The Dukes have played Towson 28 times with a 21-6-1 record starting back in 1976. They played them every year from 1976 to 1993 with the exception of 1980. They didn't play them again until 2004 and then played every year with the exception of 2011 until 2015. They didn't play them again for two years and then played them last year. Maybe you guys don't think they should be a rival because you haven't been following the Dukes as long as I have. I have been following them since I started at Madison College in 1976 which is probably well before you guys were even born.
This is why they aren't really a rival. We have basically dominated them for decades. The whole CAA wants to be the Dukes, doesn't make every team a rival.
NDSU is closer to being a rival, like App St and ODU might have been if they had not moved up.
But those teams are not in our conference. I believe a rival team should be one you play every year. Yes, we have dominated Towson in the past but they have improved a lot in the last few years.
(05-24-2019 05:32 PM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 05:25 PM)JMURocks Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 03:23 PM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 01:13 PM)JMURocks Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 11:59 AM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ]With the exception of maybe William and Mary I think the Dukes have played Towson the most over the years. Maybe someone can check that stat out. Towson is a very similar school to JMU in a lot of ways.
Meh on Towson being a football "rival." We play SFU and Moorehead St often too, but that doesn't make them rivals.
UD felt like a potential rival in years past when they were good, and made deep playoff runs. Still enjoy that game and wish we played them every year. Rocco being there could help fuel the fire a bit again.
Towson isn't on the same level as SFU and Moorhead St., they are a cut above. As a Maryland resident I know a lot of Towson alumni and they do see the Dukes somewhat as a rival. They certainly want to be like the Dukes. The Dukes have played Towson 28 times with a 21-6-1 record starting back in 1976. They played them every year from 1976 to 1993 with the exception of 1980. They didn't play them again until 2004 and then played every year with the exception of 2011 until 2015. They didn't play them again for two years and then played them last year. Maybe you guys don't think they should be a rival because you haven't been following the Dukes as long as I have. I have been following them since I started at Madison College in 1976 which is probably well before you guys were even born.
This is why they aren't really a rival. We have basically dominated them for decades. The whole CAA wants to be the Dukes, doesn't make every team a rival.
NDSU is closer to being a rival, like App St and ODU might have been if they had not moved up.
But those teams are not in our conference. I believe a rival team should be one you play every year. Yes, we have dominated Towson in the past but they have improved a lot in the last few years.
Someone "wanting" to be a rival doesn't make it so. The closest thing we have to that in the CAA currently is RU. Even though we dominated them last year, the series is tied at 18-18. Neither team has won more than 5 in a row.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ma...ll_rivalry
(05-24-2019 05:44 PM)JMURocks Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 05:32 PM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 05:25 PM)JMURocks Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 03:23 PM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 01:13 PM)JMURocks Wrote: [ -> ]Meh on Towson being a football "rival." We play SFU and Moorehead St often too, but that doesn't make them rivals.
UD felt like a potential rival in years past when they were good, and made deep playoff runs. Still enjoy that game and wish we played them every year. Rocco being there could help fuel the fire a bit again.
Towson isn't on the same level as SFU and Moorhead St., they are a cut above. As a Maryland resident I know a lot of Towson alumni and they do see the Dukes somewhat as a rival. They certainly want to be like the Dukes. The Dukes have played Towson 28 times with a 21-6-1 record starting back in 1976. They played them every year from 1976 to 1993 with the exception of 1980. They didn't play them again until 2004 and then played every year with the exception of 2011 until 2015. They didn't play them again for two years and then played them last year. Maybe you guys don't think they should be a rival because you haven't been following the Dukes as long as I have. I have been following them since I started at Madison College in 1976 which is probably well before you guys were even born.
This is why they aren't really a rival. We have basically dominated them for decades. The whole CAA wants to be the Dukes, doesn't make every team a rival.
NDSU is closer to being a rival, like App St and ODU might have been if they had not moved up.
But those teams are not in our conference. I believe a rival team should be one you play every year. Yes, we have dominated Towson in the past but they have improved a lot in the last few years.
Someone "wanting" to be a rival doesn't make it so. The closest thing we have to that in the CAA currently is RU. Even though we dominated them last year, the series is tied at 18-18. Neither team has won more than 5 in a row.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Ma...ll_rivalry
I agree they would be the best candidate as a rival but aren't they "officially" rivals with Wm and Mary?
(05-24-2019 08:39 AM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ] (04-04-2019 05:05 PM)JMUNation Wrote: [ -> ]I am with Old Dawg. Not much of a rivalry when your rival sucks. 63-20 every year is going to get old.
I don't feel a rivarly with anyone in the CAA. Some may feel it with us. The closest thing to a rival for me would be NDSU.
When UD was a football power, I felt it a little.
With ODU I definately felt it. As Mickey said something like it was the biggest rivalry of teams that have never played.
My biggest rivals of football
Current
NDSU
Prior
ASU
UD
RU
Agree 100%
ODU was also a *huge* basketball rival back in the Lefty era. CAA tourney games against them were electric. Unfortunately that also died out when they moved conferences and our mbb program went south.
(05-24-2019 05:49 PM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ]I agree they would be the best candidate as a rival but aren't they "officially" rivals with Wm and Mary?
You can have multiple rivals. Georgia (aka Cesspool) has Ga Tech as a rival. But, very much their fanbase sees Florida as a rival. Florida sees Georgia as a rival, but they also see Florida State as a rival. Michigan sees Michigan State the same way, but they also see the Buckeyes that way.
(05-24-2019 05:52 PM)JMURocks Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 08:39 AM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ] (04-04-2019 05:05 PM)JMUNation Wrote: [ -> ]I am with Old Dawg. Not much of a rivalry when your rival sucks. 63-20 every year is going to get old.
I don't feel a rivarly with anyone in the CAA. Some may feel it with us. The closest thing to a rival for me would be NDSU.
When UD was a football power, I felt it a little.
With ODU I definately felt it. As Mickey said something like it was the biggest rivalry of teams that have never played.
My biggest rivals of football
Current
NDSU
Prior
ASU
UD
RU
Agree 100%
ODU was also a *huge* basketball rival back in the Lefty era. CAA tourney games against them were electric. Unfortunately that also died out when they moved conferences and our mbb program went south.
I don't see NDSU as a rival just like I dont think Alabama and Clemson are rivals. JMU and NDSU are two of the best teams that just so happened to play two great games in three years. NDSU has SDSU, Alabama has Auburn and we have Richmond unfortunately
(05-28-2019 07:00 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 05:52 PM)JMURocks Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 08:39 AM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ] (04-04-2019 05:05 PM)JMUNation Wrote: [ -> ]I am with Old Dawg. Not much of a rivalry when your rival sucks. 63-20 every year is going to get old.
I don't feel a rivarly with anyone in the CAA. Some may feel it with us. The closest thing to a rival for me would be NDSU.
When UD was a football power, I felt it a little.
With ODU I definately felt it. As Mickey said something like it was the biggest rivalry of teams that have never played.
My biggest rivals of football
Current
NDSU
Prior
ASU
UD
RU
Agree 100%
ODU was also a *huge* basketball rival back in the Lefty era. CAA tourney games against them were electric. Unfortunately that also died out when they moved conferences and our mbb program went south.
I don't see NDSU as a rival just like I dont think Alabama and Clemson are rivals. JMU and NDSU are two of the best teams that just so happened to play two great games in three years. NDSU has SDSU, Alabama has Auburn and we have Richmond unfortunately
Agree. Some folks on here desperately want NDSU to be our rival because they fancy us as a "dynasty" of equal success, but we have not established the consistency over a similar stretch of time. As mentioned, we also haven't played them nearly enough- not only aren't we conference-mates but we've played them just three times ever?
Because the CAA is now in "pods", we'll never play Delaware and Villanova with the same frequency of RU, Towson, and W&M. Rivals don't have to be only in pairs, so I'd consider Richmond and W&M rivals. I'd also consider Delaware and Villanova rivals. We just don't have a "primary" rival we've been paired with historically and unless we join conferences with ODU or Delaware moves FBS with us I don't see that happening anytime soon.
That's football. As far as an overall conference rival, the way things are going it would probably end up W&M, Elon, or Bridgewater.
(05-24-2019 05:32 PM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 05:25 PM)JMURocks Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 03:23 PM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 01:13 PM)JMURocks Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 11:59 AM)Ashby Hall Wrote: [ -> ]With the exception of maybe William and Mary I think the Dukes have played Towson the most over the years. Maybe someone can check that stat out. Towson is a very similar school to JMU in a lot of ways.
Meh on Towson being a football "rival." We play SFU and Moorehead St often too, but that doesn't make them rivals.
UD felt like a potential rival in years past when they were good, and made deep playoff runs. Still enjoy that game and wish we played them every year. Rocco being there could help fuel the fire a bit again.
Towson isn't on the same level as SFU and Moorhead St., they are a cut above. As a Maryland resident I know a lot of Towson alumni and they do see the Dukes somewhat as a rival. They certainly want to be like the Dukes. The Dukes have played Towson 28 times with a 21-6-1 record starting back in 1976. They played them every year from 1976 to 1993 with the exception of 1980. They didn't play them again until 2004 and then played every year with the exception of 2011 until 2015. They didn't play them again for two years and then played them last year. Maybe you guys don't think they should be a rival because you haven't been following the Dukes as long as I have. I have been following them since I started at Madison College in 1976 which is probably well before you guys were even born.
This is why they aren't really a rival. We have basically dominated them for decades. The whole CAA wants to be the Dukes, doesn't make every team a rival.
NDSU is closer to being a rival, like App St and ODU might have been if they had not moved up.
But those teams are not in our conference. I believe a rival team should be one you play every year. Yes, we have dominated Towson in the past but they have improved a lot in the last few years.
Just because someone is in your conference, does not mean they are a rival in my opinion.
(05-28-2019 08:36 AM)2Buck Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2019 07:00 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 05:52 PM)JMURocks Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 08:39 AM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ] (04-04-2019 05:05 PM)JMUNation Wrote: [ -> ]I am with Old Dawg. Not much of a rivalry when your rival sucks. 63-20 every year is going to get old.
I don't feel a rivarly with anyone in the CAA. Some may feel it with us. The closest thing to a rival for me would be NDSU.
When UD was a football power, I felt it a little.
With ODU I definately felt it. As Mickey said something like it was the biggest rivalry of teams that have never played.
My biggest rivals of football
Current
NDSU
Prior
ASU
UD
RU
Agree 100%
ODU was also a *huge* basketball rival back in the Lefty era. CAA tourney games against them were electric. Unfortunately that also died out when they moved conferences and our mbb program went south.
I don't see NDSU as a rival just like I dont think Alabama and Clemson are rivals. JMU and NDSU are two of the best teams that just so happened to play two great games in three years. NDSU has SDSU, Alabama has Auburn and we have Richmond unfortunately
Agree. Some folks on here desperately want NDSU to be our rival because they fancy us as a "dynasty" of equal success, but we have not established the consistency over a similar stretch of time. As mentioned, we also haven't played them nearly enough- not only aren't we conference-mates but we've played them just three times ever?
Because the CAA is now in "pods", we'll never play Delaware and Villanova with the same frequency of RU, Towson, and W&M. Rivals don't have to be only in pairs, so I'd consider Richmond and W&M rivals. I'd also consider Delaware and Villanova rivals. We just don't have a "primary" rival we've been paired with historically and unless we join conferences with ODU or Delaware moves FBS with us I don't see that happening anytime soon.
That's football. As far as an overall conference rival, the way things are going it would probably end up W&M, Elon, or Bridgewater.
To be a rival, the game needs to mean more. Richmond and espeically W&M are just another game on the schedule to me. Now if you live in RU/W&M portion of the state it might mean more to you due to their fans being near you.
Those two are just another game to me at this point......
ODU, ASU - I knew where those feel on the schedule and was always excited about. I think I would feel the same way verus Marshall in football.
(05-28-2019 08:55 AM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2019 08:36 AM)2Buck Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2019 07:00 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 05:52 PM)JMURocks Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 08:39 AM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ]I don't feel a rivarly with anyone in the CAA. Some may feel it with us. The closest thing to a rival for me would be NDSU.
When UD was a football power, I felt it a little.
With ODU I definately felt it. As Mickey said something like it was the biggest rivalry of teams that have never played.
My biggest rivals of football
Current
NDSU
Prior
ASU
UD
RU
Agree 100%
ODU was also a *huge* basketball rival back in the Lefty era. CAA tourney games against them were electric. Unfortunately that also died out when they moved conferences and our mbb program went south.
I don't see NDSU as a rival just like I dont think Alabama and Clemson are rivals. JMU and NDSU are two of the best teams that just so happened to play two great games in three years. NDSU has SDSU, Alabama has Auburn and we have Richmond unfortunately
Agree. Some folks on here desperately want NDSU to be our rival because they fancy us as a "dynasty" of equal success, but we have not established the consistency over a similar stretch of time. As mentioned, we also haven't played them nearly enough- not only aren't we conference-mates but we've played them just three times ever?
Because the CAA is now in "pods", we'll never play Delaware and Villanova with the same frequency of RU, Towson, and W&M. Rivals don't have to be only in pairs, so I'd consider Richmond and W&M rivals. I'd also consider Delaware and Villanova rivals. We just don't have a "primary" rival we've been paired with historically and unless we join conferences with ODU or Delaware moves FBS with us I don't see that happening anytime soon.
That's football. As far as an overall conference rival, the way things are going it would probably end up W&M, Elon, or Bridgewater.
To be a rival, the game needs to mean more. Richmond and espeically W&M are just another game on the schedule to me. Now if you live in RU/W&M portion of the state it might mean more to you due to their fans being near you.
Those two are just another game to me at this point......
ODU, ASU - I knew where those feel on the schedule and was always excited about. I think I would feel the same way verus Marshall in football.
I agree to a certain degree, but if you look at most big-time rivalries there are always periods of lopsided domination by one team or another. As much as we like to talk smack about RU and W&M, they have both played us tough and in RU's case- had plenty of success against us. We've really only been dominant over them over the last few years. Same for Delaware.
As others have mentioned, if we're going based on competitiveness no one has been more dominant over us recently than Colgate. Do we consider them a rival?
As for competition to get excited about, as you're touching on I really care less and less about our FCS opponents. Our annual FBS game gets far more buzz and chatter from our fans than any FCS game on our schedule.
(05-28-2019 09:05 AM)2Buck Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2019 08:55 AM)Dukester Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2019 08:36 AM)2Buck Wrote: [ -> ] (05-28-2019 07:00 AM)fishingduke12 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-24-2019 05:52 PM)JMURocks Wrote: [ -> ]Agree 100%
ODU was also a *huge* basketball rival back in the Lefty era. CAA tourney games against them were electric. Unfortunately that also died out when they moved conferences and our mbb program went south.
I don't see NDSU as a rival just like I dont think Alabama and Clemson are rivals. JMU and NDSU are two of the best teams that just so happened to play two great games in three years. NDSU has SDSU, Alabama has Auburn and we have Richmond unfortunately
Agree. Some folks on here desperately want NDSU to be our rival because they fancy us as a "dynasty" of equal success, but we have not established the consistency over a similar stretch of time. As mentioned, we also haven't played them nearly enough- not only aren't we conference-mates but we've played them just three times ever?
Because the CAA is now in "pods", we'll never play Delaware and Villanova with the same frequency of RU, Towson, and W&M. Rivals don't have to be only in pairs, so I'd consider Richmond and W&M rivals. I'd also consider Delaware and Villanova rivals. We just don't have a "primary" rival we've been paired with historically and unless we join conferences with ODU or Delaware moves FBS with us I don't see that happening anytime soon.
That's football. As far as an overall conference rival, the way things are going it would probably end up W&M, Elon, or Bridgewater.
To be a rival, the game needs to mean more. Richmond and espeically W&M are just another game on the schedule to me. Now if you live in RU/W&M portion of the state it might mean more to you due to their fans being near you.
Those two are just another game to me at this point......
ODU, ASU - I knew where those feel on the schedule and was always excited about. I think I would feel the same way verus Marshall in football.
I agree to a certain degree, but if you look at most big-time rivalries there are always periods of lopsided domination by one team or another. As much as we like to talk smack about RU and W&M, they have both played us tough and in RU's case- had plenty of success against us. We've really only been dominant over them over the last few years. Same for Delaware.
As others have mentioned, if we're going based on competitiveness no one has been more dominant over us recently than Colgate. Do we consider them a rival?
As for competition to get excited about, as you're touching on I really care less and less about our FCS opponents. Our annual FBS game gets far more buzz and chatter from our fans than any FCS game on our schedule.
It isn't just competitiveness. As Mickey pointed out ODU (by far) was our biggest football rival before we ever played them. As silly as that sounds that was certainly the case for me. Colgate, RU, W&M, Elon, Nova - just another game to me. Yes, I know more about our conference mates, but does not mean I feel very excited to play them because who they are.
Dallas - Washington is a good example to me. Does not matter if the teams are both good, both bad, or one is10-0 versus the other team being 0-10. I always care more and want to win that game. I want Dallas to lose even if they are playing someone else. I felt that way at one time in basketball between RU and JMU. RU is fun because we are able to take over their stadium for road games, but just don't feel the rivalry with them. I can tell you there is no game on next year's schedule that means that much more to me than another. Stangley enough the two games I'm most interested in are WVU and Chattanooga.
CAA teams G5/P5 transfers.
The ones I was able to come up with from each CAA teams’ Winter & Spring & Summer news releases, 2019 roster, the transfer portal, and what’s been posted on AGS and CS. Probably missing a few. Current count at 35. Seems to be more league wide than I can ever remember.
UD (6)
-rJr LB Dae’lun Darien, Penn St (3 star)
-rJr CB D'Juan Moore, Kansas
-rSo CB Zachariah Burton, UVa
-rFr RB Will Knight, ODU (2 star)
-rFr LB Javar Garrett, Virginia (3 star)
-rFr LB Isaiah Schoonmaker, Miami of Ohio
UR (5)
-Gr WR Charlie Fessler, Northwestern (3 star)
-Gr WR Keyston Fuller, Duke (3 star)
-Gr S Brandon Feamster, Duke (3 star 247/2 star Rivals). (6’3”/205). Last 3 seasons played in 37 of 38 games. Started last 7 games last season.
-Gr LB Jimmy Marchese, Illinois (walkon, did start a couple games couple years ago).
-rSo QB Beau English, Air Force (2 star)
Maine (4)
-rSr Emmanuel Reed, Buffalo (2 star). 2016-2018 29 games, 288 carries, 1244 yards, 10 TDs. Started 9 games 2017.
-rJr WR Jacob Hennie, 2 seasons New Mexico/1 season Mt San Antonio College (2 star 247)
-rSo RB Jordan Rowell, NIU
-rSo TE Ori Jean-Charles, Louisville (was a preferred walkon there).
TU (4)
-rSo WR Darian Street, Pitt (3 star)
-rSo OL Darion Bryant, Temple (3 star)
-rFr DT Jesus Gibbs, USC (3 star)
-rSo P Shane McDonough, Marshall
SBU (4)
-rSr Sean Hammonds, Ball State (2 star 247)
-rJr WR Brandon Benson, SMU (3 star)
-rSo OL James Tunstall, UConn (2 star)
-rSo OLB Keirston Johnson, USF (3 star 247, 2 star Rivals)
W&M (4)
-Gr DL Darius Fullwood, VT (3 star)
-Gr WR Sean Daniel, VT
-Gr QB Kilton Anderson, Fresno St/New Mex Military/CCU (3 star 247/2 star Rivals). 2015 Fresno St played 8 games/5 starts. 2017-2018 CCU played 15 games/8 starts.
-rJr OL Andrew Trainer, Illinois (3 star)
Albany (4)
-Gr FB Max Anthony, Rutgers
-rJr QB Griffin Dahn, Nevada
-rJr RB Alex James, CCU (2 star)
-Jr DL MJ Crazier, Kent St
JMU (3)
-Gr WR Brandon Polk, PSU (4 star 247, 3 star Rivals) 10 career starts, 3 as a true Fr, 7 last season.
-rFr WR Dillon Spalding, WVU (3 star)
-rFr DE Antonio Colclough, Temple (3 star 247, 2 star Rivals)
Elon (1)
-rJr ILB Tyler Sponseller, Cincinnatti (3 star)
None announced yet that I could find:
UNH
VU
URI
Looks like 4 proven players with multiple career starts:
-Polk to JMU.
-Duke safety to UR.
-Buffalo RB to Maine.
-Fresno St/CCU QB to W&M.