(02-22-2019 01:25 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: [ -> ]https://youtu.be/x17fyiXsUf4
It didn't seem to interfere with anything.
Side question: In general, how much of a head basketball coach's excessive sideline behavior is for real and how much is just an act?
(02-22-2019 04:18 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-22-2019 01:25 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: [ -> ]https://youtu.be/x17fyiXsUf4
It didn't seem to interfere with anything.
Side question: In general, how much of a head basketball coach's excessive sideline behavior is for real and how much is just an act?
In the SEC anything thrown onto the court is a technical foul. The confusing part is that the officials used to issue a warning on the first occurrence and now they tend to do it upon the first incident.
I think it’s a little misleading that the game was lost on that technical. A dude was already at the line with almost no time left on what was already a costly mistake of a foul. The technical was the final nail or the icing, but UGA was not going to win that game.
(02-22-2019 05:01 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (02-22-2019 04:18 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-22-2019 01:25 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: [ -> ]https://youtu.be/x17fyiXsUf4
It didn't seem to interfere with anything.
Side question: In general, how much of a head basketball coach's excessive sideline behavior is for real and how much is just an act?
In the SEC anything thrown onto the court is a technical foul. The confusing part is that the officials used to issue a warning on the first occurrence and now they tend to do it upon the first incident.
I didn't know conferences had different rules. Then again, I know little about basketball to begin with.
(02-22-2019 05:47 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-22-2019 05:01 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (02-22-2019 04:18 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-22-2019 01:25 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: [ -> ]https://youtu.be/x17fyiXsUf4
It didn't seem to interfere with anything.
Side question: In general, how much of a head basketball coach's excessive sideline behavior is for real and how much is just an act?
In the SEC anything thrown onto the court is a technical foul. The confusing part is that the officials used to issue a warning on the first occurrence and now they tend to do it upon the first incident.
I didn't know conferences had different rules. Then again, I know little about basketball to begin with.
College basketball officiating is hardly standard. The calls are the same but what would be a no call in one league is a touch foul in another. In the SEC they call touch fouls and hand checks on the perimeter, along with illegal screens, but under the bucket it is a free for all. You have to be man to play in the lane. Go to another conference and watch the officiating. They may allow handchecking and what we call a touch foul on the perimeter, but they may call it much tighter under the bucket.
This is the problem I have with the NCAA tournament. Your draw on officials can really mess with a teams head. If their style of play was called one way all year and now they get a crew that enforces things much more tightly, or not at all, it really throws off that teams timing. It makes those upsets in the first two rounds more likely, especially before the better officiating teams are put together for later rounds.
I would love to see College Basketball have 1 set of officials nationally and to have them all trained to make calls the same way.
(02-22-2019 05:22 PM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote: [ -> ]I think it’s a little misleading that the game was lost on that technical. A dude was already at the line with almost no time left on what was already a costly mistake of a foul. The technical was the final nail or the icing, but UGA was not going to win that game.
Well he made the technical and then deliberately missed the 2nd free throw on the foul. So he probably makes the 2nd free throw if there is no technical.
(02-22-2019 06:31 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (02-22-2019 05:47 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-22-2019 05:01 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (02-22-2019 04:18 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote: [ -> ] (02-22-2019 01:25 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: [ -> ]https://youtu.be/x17fyiXsUf4
It didn't seem to interfere with anything.
Side question: In general, how much of a head basketball coach's excessive sideline behavior is for real and how much is just an act?
In the SEC anything thrown onto the court is a technical foul. The confusing part is that the officials used to issue a warning on the first occurrence and now they tend to do it upon the first incident.
I didn't know conferences had different rules. Then again, I know little about basketball to begin with.
College basketball officiating is hardly standard. The calls are the same but what would be a no call in one league is a touch foul in another. In the SEC they call touch fouls and hand checks on the perimeter, along with illegal screens, but under the bucket it is a free for all. You have to be man to play in the lane. Go to another conference and watch the officiating. They may allow handchecking and what we call a touch foul on the perimeter, but they may call it much tighter under the bucket.
This is the problem I have with the NCAA tournament. Your draw on officials can really mess with a teams head. If their style of play was called one way all year and now they get a crew that enforces things much more tightly, or not at all, it really throws off that teams timing. It makes those upsets in the first two rounds more likely, especially before the better officiating teams are put together for later rounds.
I would love to see College Basketball have 1 set of officials nationally and to have them all trained to make calls the same way.
I hate Big East style officiating and how it has permeated the rest of the conferences. It really changed the game starting in the 80s.
Big East brawl ball was something, but I don’t think it’s entirely fair putting officiating nuances on them. I’d say the old Big East style drew from something, and I am looking straight at the NBA of that era.
The NBA still lets a lot of **** fly. That is going to have an impact on the college game with the pecking order in officiating.
And I think you can tell with how the college game has gone to the three. Not just because of the distance difference between college and pros, but because of officiating in the paint. It’s almost infuriating to watch how college ball sees guys driving in favorable conditions and still kicking the ball out because they’re not confident in the shot AND that the ref will call the block/contact.
Ironically, in the old Big East, you could get murdered in the lane and may not hear a whistle. Now, you still might not get it on a contact or, worse, have the official call a charge because of how liberal the interpretation of being set is for them now (the “participation trophy” of “defense” under the rim; just appear to get set, and if it’s close enough, the defender gets the benefit of the call or just falling down without a whistle if not, rather than getting punished for their own contact). Get touched around the arc, though, and that stuff gets called. And the college game develops around that now. Yuck.
(02-25-2019 05:45 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote: [ -> ]Big East brawl ball was something, but I don’t think it’s entirely fair putting officiating nuances on them. I’d say the old Big East style drew from something, and I am looking straight at the NBA of that era.
The NBA still lets a lot of **** fly. That is going to have an impact on the college game with the pecking order in officiating.
And I think you can tell with how the college game has gone to the three. Not just because of the distance difference between college and pros, but because of officiating in the paint. It’s almost infuriating to watch how college ball sees guys driving in favorable conditions and still kicking the ball out because they’re not confident in the shot AND that the ref will call the block/contact.
Ironically, in the old Big East, you could get murdered in the lane and may not hear a whistle. Now, you still might not get it on a contact or, worse, have the official call a charge because of how liberal the interpretation of being set is for them now (the “participation trophy” of “defense” under the rim; just appear to get set, and if it’s close enough, the defender gets the benefit of the call or just falling down without a whistle if not, rather than getting punished for their own contact). Get touched around the arc, though, and that stuff gets called. And the college game develops around that now. Yuck.
Yeah I'm old, but it still ticks me off to see a kid take three or four steps to the bucket with no traveling call and to watch them palm the ball to keep a dribble going. Hell I could have been a lot better statistically if I could have consistently gotten away with traveling and palming my dribble!
(02-25-2019 05:45 AM)The Cutter of Bish Wrote: [ -> ]Big East brawl ball was something, but I don’t think it’s entirely fair putting officiating nuances on them. I’d say the old Big East style drew from something, and I am looking straight at the NBA of that era.
The NBA still lets a lot of **** fly. That is going to have an impact on the college game with the pecking order in officiating.
And I think you can tell with how the college game has gone to the three. Not just because of the distance difference between college and pros, but because of officiating in the paint. It’s almost infuriating to watch how college ball sees guys driving in favorable conditions and still kicking the ball out because they’re not confident in the shot AND that the ref will call the block/contact.
Ironically, in the old Big East, you could get murdered in the lane and may not hear a whistle. Now, you still might not get it on a contact or, worse, have the official call a charge because of how liberal the interpretation of being set is for them now (the “participation trophy” of “defense” under the rim; just appear to get set, and if it’s close enough, the defender gets the benefit of the call or just falling down without a whistle if not, rather than getting punished for their own contact). Get touched around the arc, though, and that stuff gets called. And the college game develops around that now. Yuck.
It came from the NBA, but college elsewhere was different. And NBA has different caliber of players. I remember that year in the early 80s Georgetown just mugged Dayton and squeaked out a win. It would have been a crime if they did it on the street. Then they did basically the same thing to Kentucky in the semi-finals.
UGAg gonna UGAg. Mississippi State is lucky it wasn't a football fan or it likely would have been a liquor bottle or a cup full of piss.
(02-25-2019 09:07 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]UGAg gonna UGAg. Mississippi State is lucky it wasn't a football fan or it likely would have been a liquor bottle or a cup full of piss.
Kap, I've been going to Georgia games for 40 plus years. There have been plenty of liquor bottles to be sure and some that were dropped from the upper deck. But I have never encountered any UGA fan dumping piss on anyone, nor have I ever heard of it, and my relatives worked for the president's office for a couple of those decades so we would have known. In fact the only school that I've heard of where that has happened to fans was in West Virginia. It's never been a problem to my knowledge in the SEC.
(02-25-2019 09:38 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2019 09:07 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]UGAg gonna UGAg. Mississippi State is lucky it wasn't a football fan or it likely would have been a liquor bottle or a cup full of piss.
Kap, I've been going to Georgia games for 40 plus years. There have been plenty of liquor bottles to be sure and some that were dropped from the upper deck. But I have never encountered any UGA fan dumping piss on anyone, nor have I ever heard of it, and my relatives worked for the president's office for a couple of those decades so we would have known. In fact the only school that I've heard of where that has happened to fans was in West Virginia. It's never been a problem to my knowledge in the SEC.
We went to Georgia twice in the 1980s and both times someone in our group got pissed dumped on them.
The last time we went was 1986. After the game when we were trying to leave the parking lot some ******* UGA fan jumped on the hood of the car of some of our tailgate group in front of us, whipped out his ***** and started to urinate on the windshield saying "PISS ON CLEMSON". To the credit of the man driving the car he didn't get out and whip this drunk's ass....he just bumped the throttle on that Pontiac battle wagon and dumped him on his face on the freshly urine covered windshield.
I've been to every old time ACC stadium, everybody from the first expansion except BC, South Carolina, Auburn, and a bucket full of bowls and by far the UGAg fans are the absolute worst of the worst. It speaks volumes that they should take lessons on hosting visitors from South Carolina because South Carolina isn't good....they are just world's better than UGAg. The only fanbase that comes close to UGAg in my experience is Maryland. The three times I went to Maryland games (One in Baltimore, two on College Park) we had vehicles vandalized and change thrown at us and they were still world's better than what we experienced in Athens. We are talking about the school where the president called out the tailgaters for taking dumps in the shrubbery.
(02-25-2019 10:45 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2019 09:38 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2019 09:07 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]UGAg gonna UGAg. Mississippi State is lucky it wasn't a football fan or it likely would have been a liquor bottle or a cup full of piss.
Kap, I've been going to Georgia games for 40 plus years. There have been plenty of liquor bottles to be sure and some that were dropped from the upper deck. But I have never encountered any UGA fan dumping piss on anyone, nor have I ever heard of it, and my relatives worked for the president's office for a couple of those decades so we would have known. In fact the only school that I've heard of where that has happened to fans was in West Virginia. It's never been a problem to my knowledge in the SEC.
We went to Georgia twice in the 1980s and both times someone in our group got pissed dumped on them.
The last time we went was 1986. After the game when we were trying to leave the parking lot some ******* UGA fan jumped on the hood of the car of some of our tailgate group in front of us, whipped out his ***** and started to urinate on the windshield saying "PISS ON CLEMSON". To the credit of the man driving the car he didn't get out and whip this drunk's ass....he just bumped the throttle on that Pontiac battle wagon and dumped him on his face on the freshly urine covered windshield.
I've been to every old time ACC stadium, everybody from the first expansion except BC, South Carolina, Auburn, and a bucket full of bowls and by far the UGAg fans are the absolute worst of the worst. It speaks volumes that they should take lessons on hosting visitors from South Carolina because South Carolina isn't good....they are just world's better than UGAg. The only fanbase that comes close to UGAg in my experience is Maryland. The three times I went to Maryland games (One in Baltimore, two on College Park) we had vehicles vandalized and change thrown at us and they were still world's better than what we experienced in Athens. We are talking about the school where the president called out the tailgaters for taking dumps in the shrubbery.
LOL. I remember that incident.
BTW, you can add West Virginia to that list of vile fanbases. In fact, what if the SEC could somehow add WVU and Maryland to the East - wouldn't that be something?
(02-25-2019 10:45 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2019 09:38 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2019 09:07 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]UGAg gonna UGAg. Mississippi State is lucky it wasn't a football fan or it likely would have been a liquor bottle or a cup full of piss.
Kap, I've been going to Georgia games for 40 plus years. There have been plenty of liquor bottles to be sure and some that were dropped from the upper deck. But I have never encountered any UGA fan dumping piss on anyone, nor have I ever heard of it, and my relatives worked for the president's office for a couple of those decades so we would have known. In fact the only school that I've heard of where that has happened to fans was in West Virginia. It's never been a problem to my knowledge in the SEC.
We went to Georgia twice in the 1980s and both times someone in our group got pissed dumped on them.
The last time we went was 1986. After the game when we were trying to leave the parking lot some ******* UGA fan jumped on the hood of the car of some of our tailgate group in front of us, whipped out his ***** and started to urinate on the windshield saying "PISS ON CLEMSON". To the credit of the man driving the car he didn't get out and whip this drunk's ass....he just bumped the throttle on that Pontiac battle wagon and dumped him on his face on the freshly urine covered windshield.
I've been to every old time ACC stadium, everybody from the first expansion except BC, South Carolina, Auburn, and a bucket full of bowls and by far the UGAg fans are the absolute worst of the worst. It speaks volumes that they should take lessons on hosting visitors from South Carolina because South Carolina isn't good....they are just world's better than UGAg. The only fanbase that comes close to UGAg in my experience is Maryland. The three times I went to Maryland games (One in Baltimore, two on College Park) we had vehicles vandalized and change thrown at us and they were still world's better than what we experienced in Athens. We are talking about the school where the president called out the tailgaters for taking dumps in the shrubbery.
Morgantown is pretty raw. I've just never had a problem in Athens, other than falling liquor bottles. But then many of them are from Atlanta so.... When Auburn got accused for poor sportsmanship because we turned the sprinklers on their fans it was because a UGA cheerleader got hit in the eye by a beer bottle thrown by her own fan base. The Auburn security turned on the sprinklers and they dispersed.
(02-25-2019 10:50 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2019 10:45 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2019 09:38 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2019 09:07 PM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]UGAg gonna UGAg. Mississippi State is lucky it wasn't a football fan or it likely would have been a liquor bottle or a cup full of piss.
Kap, I've been going to Georgia games for 40 plus years. There have been plenty of liquor bottles to be sure and some that were dropped from the upper deck. But I have never encountered any UGA fan dumping piss on anyone, nor have I ever heard of it, and my relatives worked for the president's office for a couple of those decades so we would have known. In fact the only school that I've heard of where that has happened to fans was in West Virginia. It's never been a problem to my knowledge in the SEC.
We went to Georgia twice in the 1980s and both times someone in our group got pissed dumped on them.
The last time we went was 1986. After the game when we were trying to leave the parking lot some ******* UGA fan jumped on the hood of the car of some of our tailgate group in front of us, whipped out his ***** and started to urinate on the windshield saying "PISS ON CLEMSON". To the credit of the man driving the car he didn't get out and whip this drunk's ass....he just bumped the throttle on that Pontiac battle wagon and dumped him on his face on the freshly urine covered windshield.
I've been to every old time ACC stadium, everybody from the first expansion except BC, South Carolina, Auburn, and a bucket full of bowls and by far the UGAg fans are the absolute worst of the worst. It speaks volumes that they should take lessons on hosting visitors from South Carolina because South Carolina isn't good....they are just world's better than UGAg. The only fanbase that comes close to UGAg in my experience is Maryland. The three times I went to Maryland games (One in Baltimore, two on College Park) we had vehicles vandalized and change thrown at us and they were still world's better than what we experienced in Athens. We are talking about the school where the president called out the tailgaters for taking dumps in the shrubbery.
LOL. I remember that incident.
BTW, you can add West Virginia to that list of vile fanbases. In fact, what if the SEC could somehow add WVU and Maryland to the East - wouldn't that be something?
I'll have to defer to others on WVU. My only experience with WVU fans was at the 89 Gator Bowl and they were OK pregame and absent postgame.
Athletic has a feature about Keady and Knight and Keady talks about back then if you went into the paint you were going to get beat up.
Morgantown is indeed worse than College Park - something more on a par with the Philadelphia Eagles. I would not take anyone to any of these three venues unless they are ready to fight and have at least 4 roles of quarters in their coat pocket.