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The best tourney seeds, other than the obvious byes 1- 4 are #5 and #6.

As one can see those two seeds, if they win the campus round, would play the #3 and #4 seeds in CLE.

This year the MAC seems to be the 'Big Two and the pack.' We have already beaten the teams which would be seeded #3 and #4, namely, TOL and Kent. Best chance to advance to the semis.

One could argue that we have a chance to repeat last year's run and a bye to CLE. We need to beat TOL again in Toledo to have the tie-breaker over the Rockets.

I'm 'guessing' that a 4 - 1 record with another win over TOL would earn us a bye to CLE. Yes, 10 - 8 could do it because of how 'skewed' the standings are because of the gaudy records of UB and BG.

BTW, I have NO idea what would happen if we tie with Kent for 4th as we split the series with them.
I could be wrong but I believe the tie breaker would then be overall record.
Today could be a big, big day for EMU:

1). We play a weak WMU team and favored by 10.

2). We're tied with Akron and Miami who play each other. One must lose.

3). CMU (7 - 6) plays at BSU and the Cardinals are favored.

IF games go according to the odds makers, we'll be in a tie with CMU and either Akron or Miami for 5th place, ONE game behind Kent with whom we split two games.
Why I love MAC MBB more than another sport:

A week ago it looked like we would be on the road in the opening round.

Today, we look to be home for the first round.

After Tuesday we'll know if we might even get a bye to CLE.

In no other sport do these games mean as much for the conference tourney and a possible NCAA bid.

EVERY game today effected who will be at home in the opening round or who will get a bye to CLE.

EDIT: I wish there was a way to create this type of scenario in MAC FB. Sure teams want to go to Detroit and win the MACC but it isn't like the winner gets a New Years Day bowl game.

It would be great if the winner of the MAC (and other G5 conferences) were automatic qualifiers in a play-in round for the college football championship. Have a 12 team playoff where the top 4 get byes and 5 - 12 earn their chance to advance (just like the MAC MBB tourney).

That would do wonders for each G5 conference championship game.
With CMU's win at Ball State today coupled with Kent State's loss at Buffalo last night, the Chippewas, at least for the moment, are the #4 seed. Huge game at EMU this week.

FIRE UP CHIPS! :)
Need to go 3-1 down the stretch. That is doable. Only the Toledo game seems unlikely.
(02-24-2019 12:44 AM)holybovine Wrote: [ -> ]Need to go 3-1 down the stretch. That is doable. Only the Toledo game seems unlikely.

Not if they play like they did yesterday.
(02-24-2019 08:07 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-24-2019 12:44 AM)holybovine Wrote: [ -> ]Need to go 3-1 down the stretch. That is doable. Only the Toledo game seems unlikely.

Not if they play like they did yesterday.

'79, I think we need to remember a concept or word used in research (and now everyday language): Outlier.

As much as it was painful to watch I doubt EMU will ever miss 22 FTs in a game during this season or the next 10 seasons.

Likewise, another outlier would be for Ray Lee going for almost 50.

Those events are so rare that they are basically 'one time' occurrences.

If EMU had shot 60% FTs the game wouldn't have been very close.
(02-24-2019 08:14 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-24-2019 08:07 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-24-2019 12:44 AM)holybovine Wrote: [ -> ]Need to go 3-1 down the stretch. That is doable. Only the Toledo game seems unlikely.

Not if they play like they did yesterday.

'79, I think we need to remember a concept or word used in research (and now everyday language): Outlier.

As much as it was painful to watch I doubt EMU will ever miss 22 FTs in a game during this season or the next 10 seasons.

Likewise, another outlier would be for say Minnie to go 8 for 10 behind the arc.

Those events are so rare that they are basically 'one time' occurrences.

If EMU had shot 60% FTs the game wouldn't have been very close.

One thing that isn't an outlier is that opponents are doing a better job of hitting the 3s against our zone defense. Minnie has also had games this year where he has "disappeared". I would not call that an outlier. But using that term lets hope the last CMU game is an outlier since they killed us at the free throw line.
I went to Cleveland last year and it was such a blast to watch basketball all day and have other friends make the trip. Really hoping to do it again.
(02-24-2019 08:22 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-24-2019 08:14 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-24-2019 08:07 AM)emu79 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-24-2019 12:44 AM)holybovine Wrote: [ -> ]Need to go 3-1 down the stretch. That is doable. Only the Toledo game seems unlikely.

Not if they play like they did yesterday.

'79, I think we need to remember a concept or word used in research (and now everyday language): Outlier.

As much as it was painful to watch I doubt EMU will ever miss 22 FTs in a game during this season or the next 10 seasons.

Likewise, another outlier would be for say Minnie to go 8 for 10 behind the arc.

Those events are so rare that they are basically 'one time' occurrences.

If EMU had shot 60% FTs the game wouldn't have been very close.

One thing that isn't an outlier is that opponents are doing a better job of hitting the 3s against our zone defense. Minnie has also had games this year where he has "disappeared". I would not call that an outlier. But using that term lets hope the last CMU game is an outlier since they killed us at the free throw line.

An outlier is a rare event. Making 40%+ is an outlier for college and as someone mentioned it is more like junior high school.

So Minnie's performance yesterday wasn't an outlier but part of his manifest inconsistency this season.
Crazy but both UB and BG trail at the half.
The outlier discussion got me thinking about EMU FT% again and how important it will be in the MAC tournament. 'Fun' fact: EMU has shot 50% or worse against 6 D1 opponents this season. EMU went 1-5 in those games.
(02-24-2019 01:56 PM)vannzee Wrote: [ -> ]I went to Cleveland last year and it was such a blast to watch basketball all day and have other friends make the trip. Really hoping to do it again.

I went last year as well, but not wasting my time and money this year. Bring on the football season!
Our 'magic number' for clinching a home game in the opening round of MAC tourney is "ONE." (see note at bottom)

An EMU win or BSU loss clinches for us.

Ohio and WMU are in the basement. NIU could finish 8 - 10 like EMU (if we lose both remaining games) but we hold the tie-breaker over NIU (swept them).

For BSU to possibly get a home game: Have to beat EMU Tuesday and beat NIU while EMU loses to Toledo. I do not know the tie-breaker if EMU and BSU both finish 8 - 10.

Note: NIU is eliminated because if they win both games and we lose both games, we hold the tie-breaker anyways.
BSU is confusing as they could tie up at 8 - 10, with a split of the 2 games, meaning the tie-breaker is...???? If the tie-breaker is then 'best conference win' again a tie as both have beaten Toledo.
(03-02-2019 07:19 PM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]Our 'magic number' for clinching a home game in the opening round of MAC tourney is "ONE." (see note at bottom)

An EMU win or BSU loss clinches for us.

Ohio and WMU are in the basement. NIU could finish 8 - 10 like EMU (if we lose both remaining games) but we hold the tie-breaker over NIU (swept them).

For BSU to possibly get a home game: Have to beat EMU Tuesday and beat NIU while EMU loses to Toledo. I do not know the tie-breaker if EMU and BSU both finish 8 - 10.

Note: NIU is eliminated because if they win both games and we lose both games, we hold the tie-breaker anyways.
BSU is confusing as they could tie up at 8 - 10, with a split of the 2 games, meaning the tie-breaker is...???? If the tie-breaker is then 'best conference win' again a tie as both have beaten Toledo.

Then we had better beat Ball State on Tuesday as they play NIU to finish at home, almost a guaranteed win. I don't see us beating Toledo at Savage Hall. The 22-0 run we made in the last Toledo game was the highlight of the season to be sure. Minnie buried some threes but Toledo came unraveled during that time and I doubt they will repeat that performance in their own building.
I think if we lose to TOL, KENT beats Akron, and CMU beats WMU, we get a GREAT 6 SEED.

We would play Ohio and then a slumping BG before adancing against maybe TOL.
(03-06-2019 08:55 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]I think if we lose to TOL, KENT beats Akron, and CMU beats WMU, we get a GREAT 6 SEED.

We would play Ohio and then a slumping BG before adancing against maybe TOL.

Wouldn't we be the 6 seed even if we beat Toledo and Kent and CMU win?

-We get the 5 seed if we win and CMU loses.
-We get the 7 seed if we lose and Akron wins.
-We get the 7 seed if we lose, CMU loses, and Akron wins due to tie breakers.
-Any other scenario gives us the 6 seed.

That last second loss to Akron, and the home collapse to CMU really cost us. Win those two (or the road loss to CMU), and we are playing for a division title and the 3 seed on Friday night.
We get a bye if we win AND both Kent and CMU LOSES.

Every game counts!!
(03-06-2019 10:21 AM)emu steve Wrote: [ -> ]We get a bye if we win AND both Kent and CMU LOSES.

Every game counts!!

According to who? I'm pretty sure we lose the tie breaker with Kent, due to winning percentage against the best MAC team (keeps going down the standings if the percentage is the same). It eventually gets down to Miami, where we lost to them and Kent won.
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