Much better game from the Buc bigs. Western didn't offer much resistance inside beyond Dotson, but he's definitely a load. On offensive, he often simply bulled the Buc defenders out of the way.
I'm not so sure, however, that Dotson is the overall bad guy he's being made out to be. I saw him "jawing" with Tisdale, but I also saw both of them smiling while doing it. I also saw Dotson helping Buc players who had fallen back to their feet (and I don't mean somebody he'd knocked over). In light of recent examples of the pitfalls of rushing to judgement, I think I'll wait for further evidence on this one.
The Bucs' press gave Western trouble, especially when Bo Hodges was at the point; part of a very good game plan by the coaches.
What more can you say about Patrick Good's game? Great to see. Now, if Tray Boyd gets it going, Buc opponents look out.
(01-27-2019 09:58 AM)Flippmb Wrote: [ -> ]Much better game from the Buc bigs. Western didn't offer much resistance inside beyond Dotson, but he's definitely a load. On offensive, he often simply bulled the Buc defenders out of the way.
I'm not so sure, however, that Dotson is the overall bad guy he's being made out to be. I saw him "jawing" with Tisdale, but I also saw both of them smiling while doing it. I also saw Dotson helping Buc players who had fallen back to their feet (and I don't mean somebody he'd knocked over). In light of recent examples of the pitfalls of rushing to judgement, I think I'll wait for further evidence on this one.
The Bucs' press gave Western trouble, especially when Bo Hodges was at the point; part of a very good game plan by the coaches.
What more can you say about Patrick Good's game? Great to see. Now, if Tray Boyd gets it going, Buc opponents look out.
Yeah, I noticed the byplay between Tisdale and Dotson more than once, especially once when Dotson was shooting free throws and either he said something to Tisdale or the other way around and both of them were grinning like they were sharing some secret joke. The problem that WCU is going to have going forward is Dotson's weight. He is not just big; he is overweight by 15-20 ponds and it showed late in the game when Rodriguez and Armus were rope-a-doping him inside and he couldn't do anything about it. He couldn't even move quickly enough to foul one of them. The ankle injury that someone on the WCU message board spoke about was apparently a problem with his back according to the game announcers which does not bode well for them going forward as they have no really comparable alternative. When he is healthy and rested Dotson is quick and aggressive to the basket with a take no prisoners attitude, but I think the season is going to catch up to him.
(01-27-2019 10:35 AM)BigIslandBuc Wrote: [ -> ] (01-27-2019 09:58 AM)Flippmb Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not so sure, however, that Dotson is the overall bad guy he's being made out to be. I saw him "jawing" with Tisdale, but I also saw both of them smiling while doing it. I also saw Dotson helping Buc players who had fallen back to their feet (and I don't mean somebody he'd knocked over). In light of recent examples of the pitfalls of rushing to judgement, I think I'll wait for further evidence on this one.
The Bucs' press gave Western trouble, especially when Bo Hodges was at the point; part of a very good game plan by the coaches.
What more can you say about Patrick Good's game? Great to see. Now, if Tray Boyd gets it going, Buc opponents look out.
Yeah, I noticed the byplay between Tisdale and Dotson more than once, especially once when Dotson was shooting free throws and either he said something to Tisdale or the other way around and both of them were grinning like they were sharing some secret joke. The problem that WCU is going to have going forward is Dotson's weight. He is not just big; he is overweight by 15-20 ponds and it showed late in the game when Rodriguez and Armus were rope-a-doping him inside and he couldn't do anything about it. He couldn't even move quickly enough to foul one of them. The ankle injury that someone on the WCU message board spoke about was apparently a problem with his back according to the game announcers which does not bode well for them going forward as they have no really comparable alternative. When he is healthy and rested Dotson is quick and aggressive to the basket with a take no prisoners attitude, but I think the season is going to catch up to him.
Like I said, he may be a nice guy, but he also was complaining with the refs about every call against him, too. I wondered if he and Tisdale might have known each other from the juco ranks.
Your comments about his weight are accurate. I remember saying to myself during the game...."If he were to lose 10-15 lbs., he'd be even harder to guard." Also totally agree about the end of the game. He could still score (to some extent) on offense, but he was being beaten on D when it didn't look like he should have been. I think Armus realized that and poured it on him. And indeed, the ankle injury may have been a factor, too.
As to the press............so what made Forbes break it out for this game? Like I commented on another thread, why haven't we seen more of that? Did he just know it would work against WCU, and yet not against other teams? Did he read my comments and blanche at being compared unfavorably with bartow on that one aspect? (As if.....) Did he just now decide to practice this in preparation for the rest of the reason? Who knows.....
As to Boyd......... I sorta got the idea that he knew last night was Good's night, and just didn't want to break the rhythm (and of course Forbes knew that, too). I was quite pleased with Boyd's D when he was in the game, tho. I'm not sure he got beaten or overmatched even once.
BTW..........mostly overlooked because it was an easy win.............our FT shooting still sucked: 7/14, with several of those being front ends of 1-and-1s.
[edit: oh, and meant to say.......other than Good, our 3-ball shooting also sucked: 1/8, with Tucker being the only other hitter.]
I'm not particularly wishing to further the discussion about the relative merits of playing Curtis, but I noticed he came into the game last night during the Buc's "Victory Formation;" but that would end any notion that he was going to be granted a "redshirt" for this season.
(01-27-2019 01:38 PM)BigIslandBuc Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not particularly wishing to further the discussion about the relative merits of playing Curtis, but I noticed he came into the game last night during the Buc's "Victory Formation;" but that would end any notion that he was going to be granted a "redshirt" for this season.
I think we already knew that. He had played sparingly in quite a few games, most recently against Chatt(?). Corley was the one some had been wondering about, even tho Forbes weeks ago stated they were seeking a medical redshirt for him.
(01-27-2019 01:11 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote: [ -> ]BTW..........mostly overlooked because it was an easy win.............our FT shooting still sucked: 7/14, with several of those being front ends of 1-and-1s.
[edit: oh, and meant to say.......other than Good, our 3-ball shooting also sucked: 1/8, with Tucker being the only other hitter.]
I have come to the realization that we just are not a good foul shooting team and it isn't going to change. We are a streaky 3-pt team as well. Now how many wins or losses does that will relate to going forward, I have no idea.
I was just so relieved yesterday that the team responded to the coaching and came out and played a good game and took care of business. If we keep that up through the tournament then we will have a good chance to win it.
Whatever their formula is to get up for a game and play like they did last night then we need to use it for the rest of this season....Go Bucs
(01-27-2019 01:55 PM)etsuBucsFan1988 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-27-2019 01:11 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote: [ -> ]BTW..........mostly overlooked because it was an easy win.............our FT shooting still sucked: 7/14, with several of those being front ends of 1-and-1s.
[edit: oh, and meant to say.......other than Good, our 3-ball shooting also sucked: 1/8, with Tucker being the only other hitter.]
I have come to the realization that we just are not a good foul shooting team and it isn't going to change. We are a streaky 3-pt team as well. Now how many wins or losses does that will relate to going forward, I have no idea.
I just hope we try to fix the FT issue since its already come to bite us once this year ( vs UNCG) and almost a 2nd time vs Samford. We won't have a chance against the top 3 if shooting only 50% from the line.
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(01-27-2019 07:53 PM)Bucster Wrote: [ -> ] (01-27-2019 01:55 PM)etsuBucsFan1988 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-27-2019 01:11 PM)posterformerlyknownasthedoctor Wrote: [ -> ]BTW..........mostly overlooked because it was an easy win.............our FT shooting still sucked: 7/14, with several of those being front ends of 1-and-1s.
[edit: oh, and meant to say.......other than Good, our 3-ball shooting also sucked: 1/8, with Tucker being the only other hitter.]
I have come to the realization that we just are not a good foul shooting team and it isn't going to change. We are a streaky 3-pt team as well. Now how many wins or losses does that will relate to going forward, I have no idea.
I just hope we try to fix the FT issue since its already come to bite us once this year ( vs UNCG) and almost a 2nd time vs Samford. We won't have a chance against the top 3 if shooting only 50% from the line.
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What is crazy is that we could go the next few games and shoot 90% free throws with no known reason. Any way it will be a fun coach's show tomorrow night. I always enjoy Coach on the radio.
(01-27-2019 07:05 PM)James Wilson Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever their formula is to get up for a game and play like they did last night then we need to use it for the rest of this season....Go Bucs
Play a weak team like Western who turns the ball over at high rate=Win. Not sure that formula is going to be available that often.
The fact Western does turn the ball over so much might be why we saw some pressing.
(01-27-2019 10:30 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-27-2019 07:05 PM)James Wilson Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever their formula is to get up for a game and play like they did last night then we need to use it for the rest of this season....Go Bucs
Play a weak team like Western who turns the ball over at high rate=Win. Not sure that formula is going to be available that often.
The fact Western does turn the ball over so much might be why we saw some pressing.
To currently be in 3rd place is actually pretty good considering how many starters are gone from last year. Factor in the team FT% and 3rd is amazing.
(01-27-2019 10:46 PM)Bucfreak23 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-27-2019 10:30 PM)RodShaw2 Wrote: [ -> ] (01-27-2019 07:05 PM)James Wilson Wrote: [ -> ]Whatever their formula is to get up for a game and play like they did last night then we need to use it for the rest of this season....Go Bucs
Play a weak team like Western who turns the ball over at high rate=Win. Not sure that formula is going to be available that often.
The fact Western does turn the ball over so much might be why we saw some pressing.
To currently be in 3rd place is actually pretty good considering how many starters are gone from last year. Factor in the team FT% and 3rd is amazing.
True, but this standard for Forbes, one formula that has stayed true since he has been here, reload each year with new players. Be interesting to see what happens next year, (only 1 senior) I am sure we will lose some players but he still should have more coming back next year than he has in the past.
Coach Forbes was on the radio this morning; however, as I was at that point on the road, I wasn't able to make many notes of what was said. The following was what I could remember.
-In speaking about Good's record breaking performance, Coach Forbes cited his efficiency with the ball, saying that Good only used 6 dribbles to shoot his 11 3's. He said that after Good had made his 8th 3, the coaching staff started running specific plays to get him open. Prior to that point Coach praised his teammates for getting him the ball, especially mentioning Rodriguez who got the ball down low and still sent it out to Good for the shot. He, also, praised Good for understanding that 99% of good basketball is moving without the ball (Amen). He said that later in the game Good was used as a decoy to open up play inside. Among other praise for good play, he mentioned Armus starting again for the first time in a while and his solid performance. He said that the Bucs had 18 assists to 10 turnovers, which he would take any game.
-In speaking of the upcoming game with Samford, Coach said that the Bucs had to do something about defending their ball screens better, citing the 33 ball screens that they ran against ETSU. He mentioned again his disappointment in the offense in the second half of the last game with Samford.
-When asked (apparently in reference to a UTK women's game) about flagrant fouls and the resulting lengthy reviews, Coach Forbes said that that appeared to be more of an issue with high major games, citing the hook and hold that Tisdale was called for in the Illinois game as the only such foul that had been called in any of their games. He suggested (possibly with tongue in cheek) that the higher amounts that referees were paid at that level made them anxious to show that they were earning their pay by appearing to take those games more seriously by initiating frequent reviews.
Glad to get the win on the road, but I am curbing my enthusiasm, the team performance Saturday was against a 5-17 team with one good guard, a forward who on most nights will be in foul trouble from lowering the shoulder, and some decent role players.