I know the NCAA made some changes in $$ for the FCS playoffs but I don't think it has been very successful for the schools that participate as the NCAA takes a very, very big chunk of the playoff revenue.
With MEAC and SWAC not opting for the playoff and forming their own bowl which is the Celebration Bowl and having very good success, I was wondering if there would be other possibilities for FCS schools.
A couple come to mind.
A bowl between the Big Sky champ and Missouri Valley Champ.
A bowl between the Ivy League (or Pioneer) and the champ of the Patriot League.
Even though the Ivy League opts out of the playoff every year, I bet they would be interested in a bowl game with a conference that is similar with them. It would take away from their studies as the playoffs would.
FCS schools see winning the playoff as their pinnacle performance.
The Celebration "Bowl" only works because a network is willing to overpay for it so they can appear progressive. The SWAC and MEAC don't play particularly good football anymore even by FCS standards but there is an audience and tradition there so people will watch it. (SWAC originally abstained because their champ was regularly getting hosed in the opening round of the playoff)
The champ of the Pioneer League won an NCAA playoff game in two of the last three seasons. They're not going to opt out of the playoff tournament.
Even if each team got 400k each at least it be a consideration they would seriously think about.
(01-22-2019 08:16 PM)MWC Tex Wrote: [ -> ]A couple come to mind.
A bowl between the Big Sky champ and Missouri Valley Champ.
A bowl between the Ivy League (or Pioneer) and the champ of the Patriot League.
Six of the seven Patriot schools are at 60 scholarships. The Ivy and Pioneer are at 0.
Eh. Maybe a bowl between the Celebration Bowl Champ and Ivy League Champion during the holidays.
I thought the whole point of the FCS was to have a playoff instead of bowls. Between high end teams leaving the FCS for FBS status, and low end teams playing bowls because they can't compete effectively in a playoff, there won't be many left to fill an FCS playoff field.
Maybe we could remedy that by having only about 80 schools in the top division, and relegate the others to I-AA status. Either that, or recognize that most schools prefer the bowl system to a playoff and do away with playoffs entirely at the D-I level.
A bowl that pits the Ivy Champ vs. Patriot or NEC champ would do well on NBC.
Princeton vs. Colgate on NBC the same weekend as the Celebration Bowl but scheduled at 3:30 pm with a $1 million dollar purse.
(01-23-2019 10:17 AM)ken d Wrote: [ -> ]I thought the whole point of the FCS was to have a playoff instead of bowls.
Yes, and the whole point of the Football
Bowl Subdivision was to have bowls instead of a playoff.
We've all lived long enough to know that you can't expect truth in advertising.
(01-23-2019 10:17 AM)ken d Wrote: [ -> ]I thought the whole point of the FCS was to have a playoff instead of bowls. Between high end teams leaving the FCS for FBS status, and low end teams playing bowls because they can't compete effectively in a playoff, there won't be many left to fill an FCS playoff field.
Maybe we could remedy that by having only about 80 schools in the top division, and relegate the others to I-AA status. Either that, or recognize that most schools prefer the bowl system to a playoff and do away with playoffs entirely at the D-I level.
The point of the FCS is to be under NCAA control. The NCAA always has a playoff format for it’s sponsored sports so that is why the FCS had one.
However, because the NCAA takes so much money from football it is a financial burden for the host team.
If the NCAA set up the playoffs like the basketball tournament credits it would be much better. However, when even a low level bowl gets a bigger payout than a FCS playoff it will be a no brainer to choose a bowl over a playoff.
Keep the scholarship schools in the FCS playoffs, but lower to 16 teams, the non scholly teams can have bowls.
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If the schools/conferences can make more money in a one off bowl format v a month long playoff, would it really be that bad?
Idaho State could play McNesee State in a bowl since both got snubbed in the playoffs. I could see the schools with winning records that did not get picked for playoffs.
(01-24-2019 11:13 AM)MWC Tex Wrote: [ -> ]The point of the FCS is to be under NCAA control. The NCAA always has a playoff format for it’s sponsored sports so that is why the FCS had one.
However, because the NCAA takes so much money from football it is a financial burden for the host team.
If the NCAA set up the playoffs like the basketball tournament credits it would be much better. However, when even a low level bowl gets a bigger payout than a FCS playoff it will be a no brainer to choose a bowl over a playoff.
In the FCS playoffs, the NCAA takes 90-95% of the ticket revenue, but they use it to pay travel expenses and game day operations for all games(officials, instant replay etc). The attendance at some of these games is like 3-5K, which more than likely is not enough to cover a team from the east cost flying to the west coast. Well attended games at schools like NDSU, JMU or Montana make up the difference for these expenses.
Sure it sucks that a team like NDSU does not receive most of the revenue for home playoff games (they typically get 3 plus a championship game in Frisco, TX), the additional home games are great for the fan base, and keeps thing exciting...
Winning sells tickets for regular season games, increases donations and corporate sponsorship, and sells licensed merchandise -- while there isn't a payoff for winning an FCS Championship -- it pays off in the long run.
(01-25-2019 01:32 AM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ]Idaho State could play McNesee State in a bowl since both got snubbed in the playoffs. I could see the schools with winning records that did not get picked for playoffs.
That's a really good idea. They can play their bowl game in the exciting resort town of Canyon, TX.
Bowl games are a relic of the past when man didn't have the jet engine. They have outlived their usefulness by nearly 4 decades and should all be ended tomorrow and replaced with a 24 team FBS playoff. FCS (and Div II and Div III) have it right. Why would they extend a bastardized version of ridiculous bowls in opposition to the existing playoff structure?
Why would FCS need bowls they have a playoff
I can imagine the Snubbed From the Playoffs Bowl would be an amazing bit of football at the FCS level between two 6-5/7-4 teams.