some talk appearantly(from other BE site) that Jay Wright being looked at by the Lakers.
Would be absolutely devastating for the Big East. Nova right now is the only reason why the Big East is viewed better than the AAC. And it'd be even more devastating if Wojo and or Willard leave their jobs as well. Big East looks like a stepping stone situation.
(04-01-2019 12:57 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]some talk appearantly(from other BE site) that Jay Wright being looked at by the Lakers.
Would be absolutely devastating for the Big East. Nova right now is the only reason why the Big East is viewed better than the AAC. And it'd be even more devastating if Wojo and or Willard leave their jobs as well. Big East looks like a stepping stone situation.
Why would anybody with a good set-up step into the Lakers situation? Yikes.
I don’t think the Johnnies and Hoyas are losing their respective coaches anytime soon. They still have work to do, but I feel those are destination jobs for those guys. I don’t think Cooley is going anywhere either.
Not sold on Wojo.
(04-01-2019 01:01 PM)esayem Wrote: [ -> ] (04-01-2019 12:57 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]some talk appearantly(from other BE site) that Jay Wright being looked at by the Lakers.
Would be absolutely devastating for the Big East. Nova right now is the only reason why the Big East is viewed better than the AAC. And it'd be even more devastating if Wojo and or Willard leave their jobs as well. Big East looks like a stepping stone situation.
Why would anybody with a good set-up step into the Lakers situation? Yikes.
I don’t think the Johnnies and Hoyas are losing their respective coaches anytime soon. They still have work to do, but I feel those are destination jobs for those guys. I don’t think Cooley is going anywhere either.
Not sold on Wojo.
Mullin absolutely sucks for St John's, so don't think anyone would want him. I could absolutely see Ewing going pro. He used to be an NBA assistant.
If Wright leaves, the current coaches in the Big East would be the worst it's ever been I think it's safe to say.
(04-01-2019 12:57 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]some talk appearantly(from other BE site) that Jay Wright being looked at by the Lakers.
Would be absolutely devastating for the Big East. Nova right now is the only reason why the Big East is viewed better than the AAC. And it'd be even more devastating if Wojo and or Willard leave their jobs as well. Big East looks like a stepping stone situation.
Is this an April Fool joke? He would be nuts to go there.
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Stever missed the April Fool's Joke...
(04-01-2019 02:57 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: [ -> ]Stever missed the April Fool's Joke...
I think I must have.... Although Wright's name was up a few years ago when Walton came aboard, and it would be very realistic to see him as a Lakers coach. It wouldn't be the biggest shock in the world quite frankly.....
I posted this on the other site, but I do think Big East programs need to re-evaluate their recent trend of hiring inexperienced head coaches to take over their programs (Steele, Wojo, Jordan, Holtmann, B. Miller, Mullin, Ewing). Wright was a head coach for seven years at Hofstra before getting hired at Villanova, and I think that was a big reason for his ultimate success. McDermott, Willard and Cooley all were head coaches before being hired at their respective schools, and I think it shows with their programs as well. While Wojo both managed to get Marquette to a top-10 ranking and lose six of his last seven games this year, I think next year's results will be a deciding indicator of where he falls on the scale. The AAC has, similarly, followed this path in football. They hired young up-and-coming assistant coaches/coordinators that just inevitably get hired away at bigger P5 programs: Herman, Fuente, Morris, Frost, Taggart, Rhule, Collins, Diaz). I think many non-P5 programs wish to avoid the "stepping-stone" branding, if you will, and getting into patterns like this certainly fuels that perception.
I love what the SEC has done in terms of their hiring of experienced and successful coaches in recent years (and a lot of input from Tranghese and Slive) with hires like Crean, C. Martin, F. Martin, Pearl, Howland, Wade and Oats, and would like to see the Big East programs follow a similar model. The Big 12 has also had a ton of success in the past few seasons with experienced and successful head coaches like Beard, Weber and Kruger all reaching the Final Four, which has immensely helped the reputation of the league complimenting Kansas' blue blood status.
If you are a non-P5, you can still hire experienced and successful head coaches from non-P5 programs and reach a high level of success.
Yeah that's been a difference in basketball with Big East and AAC programs. AAC have hired guys like Sampson, Dawkins, prior to this Larry Brown, this year getting Ron Hunter, etc. Big East schools have shied away from hiring guys like that like you said going young almost always.
Where I think it's different for the AAC football/basketball is in football you're not going to have those veteran guys anywhere near as available as you see in basketball.
I think the problem quite frankly for the Big East why they can't do what the SEC did is money. Big East schools just aren't paying the going rate for coaches. I mean Mack was making 1.7 million at Xavier. Houston just offered Sampson supposedly(saw it today so who knows) 18 million over 6 years.
I think Tim Cluess and Mark Schmidt would do well in the Big East. It would be like taking their current situation to a grander stage.
(04-01-2019 04:51 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah that's been a difference in basketball with Big East and AAC programs. AAC have hired guys like Sampson, Dawkins, prior to this Larry Brown, this year getting Ron Hunter, etc. Big East schools have shied away from hiring guys like that like you said going young almost always.
Where I think it's different for the AAC football/basketball is in football you're not going to have those veteran guys anywhere near as available as you see in basketball.
I think the problem quite frankly for the Big East why they can't do what the SEC did is money. Big East schools just aren't paying the going rate for coaches. I mean Mack was making 1.7 million at Xavier. Houston just offered Sampson supposedly(saw it today so who knows) 18 million over 6 years.
A few of those are interesting, no doubt, but a few of those were massive gambles as well. No one was hiring Larry Brown or Kelvin Sampson when SMU and Houston came calling. Brown hadn't coached in college in nearly thirty years, and Sampson was radioactive at that point due to the show-cause penalty he had earned at Indiana. Tulane, similarly, went outside the box with Mike Dunleavy (but he had never coached college). I think the hires of Dawkins, Brian Gregory, Ron Hunter and Joe Dooley were very wise for USF, USF, Tulane and ECU, respectively. SMU's decision to keep Tim Jankovich seemed risky to me; I guess we will find out in a year whether that one will hold.
I would like to see Steve Forbes, Tim Cluess, LeVelle Moton and Mike Young eventually get interest/opportunity at a major job.
With regards to Big East coaches' salaries, I think they are fair and competitive, but - overtime - they will need to increase in order to keep up. Nebraska offering/getting Fred Hoiberg for $25 million is an effect of the B1G getting huge revenues from their television contract. Wright earns close to $4 million, and the majority of the Big East coaches earn between $2 and $3 million. I think we will see premium coaches (outside of Calipari/Coach K/Izzo) begin to be paid $3.5-$5 million annually.
Wow, UCLA. Just wow.
No love for Thad Matta this round of the carousel?
you wonder if Cincy would almost be ok with Cronin leaving. 7 straight 1st weekend losses. With 3 of those in rd 1.
(04-02-2019 08:16 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]you wonder if Cincy would almost be ok with Cronin leaving. 7 straight 1st weekend losses. With 3 of those in rd 1.
Fan base is pretty divided.
1/3 thinks he is Jesus.
1/3 doesn't want him to go but by the same token doesn't want to throw money at him.
1/3 hates him and wants him fired yesterday.
(04-02-2019 08:20 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: [ -> ] (04-02-2019 08:16 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]you wonder if Cincy would almost be ok with Cronin leaving. 7 straight 1st weekend losses. With 3 of those in rd 1.
Fan base is pretty divided.
1/3 thinks he is Jesus.
1/3 doesn't want him to go but by the same token doesn't want to throw money at him.
1/3 hates him and wants him fired yesterday.
yeah. really interesting scenario there....
who would be replacement? Would a JT3 fit there?
I fully expect the Cronin-to-VT speculations to ramp up once Buzz accepts A&M. Whit Babcock and him have a strong relationship, dating back to his days as the Cincinnati AD. If Cronin comes back asking for a raise, Cincinnati may encourage him to take Tech's offer.
If Cronin leaves Cincinnati, they should look at Matt McMahon, or any of the recently dismissed head coaches with proven track records such as Mike Anderson, Steve Alford or Bryce Drew.
(04-02-2019 08:22 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ] (04-02-2019 08:20 AM)CliftonAve Wrote: [ -> ] (04-02-2019 08:16 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]you wonder if Cincy would almost be ok with Cronin leaving. 7 straight 1st weekend losses. With 3 of those in rd 1.
Fan base is pretty divided.
1/3 thinks he is Jesus.
1/3 doesn't want him to go but by the same token doesn't want to throw money at him.
1/3 hates him and wants him fired yesterday.
yeah. really interesting scenario there....
who would be replacement? Would a JT3 fit there?
I doubt he is going anywhere. Mick is your classic Cincinnati West sider--- those guys don't ever leave town. He's a divorced father of a 12 year old daughter and he is very close to father and other family members who are all here.
That being said, if he were to go to UCLA or some other job, the two names floating around are Bearcat Legend (Current Memphis Grizzly assistant) Nick Van Exel and/or Northern Kentucky Coach John Brennan. Brennan has done a great job at NKU,, taking a program that was in DII a few years ago to the Dance 2 of his 3 years there. He is a young up and coming coach that will have a bigger job anyway sooner than later. The Van Exel hire would be interesting-- he has been an assistant in the G League and in the NBA for the past 10 years, he is a name and would sell recruits on his own accomplishments as a player and his connections in the league.