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Quote:FOX News host Sean Hannity announced on Monday night a criminal investigation is now underway in corrupt Broward and Palm Beach counties in Florida.

On election night last Tuesday Rick Scott and Ron DeSantis easily won their races in Florida. Now Democrats are working to steal the elections. Then Democrats in Palm Beach and Broward counties started manufacturing tens of thousands of new votes for several days.

By Saturday Scott’s lead went from 83,000 to 12,562 votes in the Florida Senate race. Desantis’s lead also shrunk by tens of thousands of votes.

On Tuesday Broward County Elections supervisor Brenda Snipes reported 634,000 votes were cast in the midterm election in her county.
On Friday morning Broward County Elections officials said 717,000 votes were cast in the midterm election.

Broward County Democrats have mysteriously found 83,000 votes in two days!

ALL Florida counties met the latest deadline on Saturday at noon to turn over their election totals.

Governor Rick Scott leads Sen. Nelson by 12,562 votes after three days of of Broward and Palm Beach County ballot manufacturing operations.
This is down from his 80,000 vote lead on election night.

Massive voter fraud is being witnessed by observers in both Palm Beach County and Broward County.

Sean Hannity said sources told him a criminal investigation is now underway.

Good!

I believe this is treason. Convict those that oversaw the process of fake ballots and those that prepared them and then hang them all in a public setting outside the state capital building. That will prevent it from happening again.

Fire the ones involved, strip them of their benefits, and make sure they never work in government again would be punishment enough.

(11-13-2018 07:24 PM)gdunn Wrote: [ -> ]Fire the ones involved, strip them of their benefits, and make sure they never work in government again would be punishment enough.

No, they need to die in prison. Otherwise there will be others who think they won't get caught, or that the rewards of not getting caught outweigh the penalties for getting caught. Make the penalties for getting caught something that nobody wants to risk.

You guys already have them convicted... Geez.

I expect a volcanic meltdown IF the recount shows that Broward Counties inept ballot design wasn't read properly by some of the election tabulation machines and it turns out that Nelson won.

Being inept does not mean that someone is criminal.

Get the feds in there and question people under oath. Especially the ones that actually "found" the boxes of ballots. Investigation wouldn't last long.

Scott could have fixed this the last 8 years........

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(11-13-2018 08:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]You guys already have them convicted... Geez.

I expect a volcanic meltdown IF the recount shows that Broward Counties inept ballot design wasn't read properly by some of the election tabulation machines and it turns out that Nelson won.

Being inept does not mean that someone is criminal.

"How does that shoe feel on the other foot? Kind of sucks to be considered guilty rather than innocent until proven guilty now doesn't it?"
— Justice Bret Kavanaugh

(11-13-2018 09:00 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-13-2018 08:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]You guys already have them convicted... Geez.

I expect a volcanic meltdown IF the recount shows that Broward Counties inept ballot design wasn't read properly by some of the election tabulation machines and it turns out that Nelson won.

Being inept does not mean that someone is criminal.

"How does that shoe feel on the other foot? Kind of sucks to be considered guilty rather than innocent until proven guilty now doesn't it?"
— Justice Bret Kavanaugh

The difference is....

An election isn't for life. And all we're looking to do is count all the votes.

Democrats vote fraud experts since Tammany Hall. Core of their belief system.

My God, CNN has Dr Brenda Snipes is on now. They are ripping her a new one. She appears to be grossly incompetent. I don't think she's capable of rigging an election. Good thing there are plenty of people watching her and the ballots to ensure that she doesn't just throw them all in the trash.

She probably cost Nelson the Senate with her idiotic ballot design.

What you guys don't realize is that the DEMOCRATS have far more reason to be p(ssed at Dr Snipes, a Jeb Bush appointee (but not sure if she has a party affiliation) than the GOP does right now. She even defended that inexcusable ballot design.

(11-13-2018 09:09 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-13-2018 09:00 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-13-2018 08:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]You guys already have them convicted... Geez.

I expect a volcanic meltdown IF the recount shows that Broward Counties inept ballot design wasn't read properly by some of the election tabulation machines and it turns out that Nelson won.

Being inept does not mean that someone is criminal.

"How does that shoe feel on the other foot? Kind of sucks to be considered guilty rather than innocent until proven guilty now doesn't it?"
— Justice Bret Kavanaugh

The difference is....

An election isn't for life. And all we're looking to do is count all the votes.

The duration of effect or outcome should have no bearing.
Traffic ticket, jaywalking, robbing a bank, premeditated murder in cold blood, everyone should have the benefit of innocence unless guilt is proven.

Don't you mean "And all we're looking to do is count all the legal votes."?

(11-13-2018 09:26 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-13-2018 09:09 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-13-2018 09:00 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-13-2018 08:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]You guys already have them convicted... Geez.

I expect a volcanic meltdown IF the recount shows that Broward Counties inept ballot design wasn't read properly by some of the election tabulation machines and it turns out that Nelson won.

Being inept does not mean that someone is criminal.

"How does that shoe feel on the other foot? Kind of sucks to be considered guilty rather than innocent until proven guilty now doesn't it?"
— Justice Bret Kavanaugh

The difference is....

An election isn't for life. And all we're looking to do is count all the votes.

The duration of effect or outcome should have no bearing.
Traffic ticket, jaywalking, robbing a bank, premeditated murder in cold blood, everyone should have the benefit of innocence unless guilt is proven.

Don't you mean "And all we're looking to do is count all the legal votes."?

Uh, the only reason the accusations had to be so forceful was that the GOP wanted to force a decision without proper vetting. Still haven't vetted him. In Florida, all we want to do, is to take the time to get the votes counted and to ensure that they were counted fairly and properly. And yes, only legal votes. But just because someone named Carole Pamela Jones, signs a ballot envelope "CJ Jones" shouldn't invalidate the ballot.

(11-13-2018 09:30 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-13-2018 09:26 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-13-2018 09:09 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-13-2018 09:00 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-13-2018 08:13 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]You guys already have them convicted... Geez.

I expect a volcanic meltdown IF the recount shows that Broward Counties inept ballot design wasn't read properly by some of the election tabulation machines and it turns out that Nelson won.

Being inept does not mean that someone is criminal.

"How does that shoe feel on the other foot? Kind of sucks to be considered guilty rather than innocent until proven guilty now doesn't it?"
— Justice Bret Kavanaugh

The difference is....

An election isn't for life. And all we're looking to do is count all the votes.

The duration of effect or outcome should have no bearing.
Traffic ticket, jaywalking, robbing a bank, premeditated murder in cold blood, everyone should have the benefit of innocence unless guilt is proven.

Don't you mean "And all we're looking to do is count all the legal votes."?

Uh, the only reason the accusations had to be so forceful was that the GOP wanted to force a decision without proper vetting. Still haven't vetted him. In Florida, all we want to do, is to take the time to get the votes counted and to ensure that they were counted fairly and properly. And yes, only legal votes. But just because someone named Carole Pamela Jones, signs a ballot envelope "CJ Jones" shouldn't invalidate the ballot.

Why in the world would someone with that name sign a ballot with an initial not in her name? There is no common abbreviation of Carole Pamela that results in a "CJ". So yes, the ballot is not valid and should be thrown out, and if someone is so freaking stupid to actually sign their name using improper initials, then that is on them, not the election officials.

But but...how can this be?? The fake news said there is absolutely no evidence of fraud.

(11-13-2018 08:34 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: [ -> ]Get the feds in there and question people under oath. Especially the ones that actually "found" the boxes of ballots. Investigation wouldn't last long.

No. Outright fraud makes it criminal. Eighty thousand votes appeared out of thin air. Takes these fraud counties weeks to do what every other county does in 8-10 hours. Won’t let observers in. What we are seeing is it takes time to fake 80K ballots. This isn’t a few irrelevant Russian Facebook accounts—this is what it looks like when real honest to goodness election theft is going down.

(11-13-2018 10:26 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]But but...how can this be?? The fake news said there is absolutely no evidence of fraud.

Just because there's an investigation, doesn't mean that there's any evidence.

https://www.naplesnews.com/story/news/po...988516002/

So, the partisan hack AG, told an appointee of the Republican candidate to open an investigation. Is that what is going on here?

If anything, they're probably just going to find an incompetent election clerk. That's why they need to take the time to ensure that all the ballots are counted.

There's a difference between incompetence and fraud. Simply not allowing any person claiming to represent one party or another to cram into the counting room doesn't mean that voter fraud is going on here.

(11-13-2018 10:47 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-13-2018 10:26 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]But but...how can this be?? The fake news said there is absolutely no evidence of fraud.

Just because there's an investigation, doesn't mean that there's any evidence.

https://www.naplesnews.com/story/news/po...988516002/

So, the partisan hack AG, told an appointee of the Republican candidate to open an investigation. Is that what is going on here?

If anything, they're probably just going to find an incompetent election clerk. That's why they need to take the time to ensure that all the ballots are counted.

There's a difference between incompetence and fraud. Simply not allowing any person claiming to represent one party or another to cram into the counting room doesn't mean that voter fraud is going on here.

Hypocrisy literally drips from this post. We’ve heard nothing but Russia Russia Russia for two years without a single drop of evidence. Now suddenly—-you’’ve sure changed your tune.

(11-13-2018 10:33 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: [ -> ]

(11-13-2018 08:34 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: [ -> ]Get the feds in there and question people under oath. Especially the ones that actually "found" the boxes of ballots. Investigation wouldn't last long.

No. Outright fraud makes it criminal. Eighty thousand votes appeared out of thin air. Takes these fraud counties weeks to do what every other county does in 8-10 hours. Won’t let observers in. What we are seeing is it takes time to fake 80K ballots. This isn’t a few irrelevant Russian Facebook accounts—this is what it looks like when real honest to goodness election theft is going down.

Can you please name any evidence that there has been any ballot stuffing in the last 20 years? Even 1000 votes, much less 80,000?

The people in Broward County can't even operate a vote tabulation machine properly. I'd be stunned if they could pull off 80k of faked ballots, which would be UNHEARD of in this country.

And if they were faking ballots, they most certainly would have done it earlier.

You know, I fend off hacking allegations all the time from Democrats accusing Republicans of that. Its next to impossible to do much in that regard. Even in big counties, and even if the county clerk is incompetent, there are too many controls. Voter suppression can be real. But vote rigging is VERY rare. And vote hacking is even more rare.

Remember, each precinct has a REPUBLICAN and a Democrat observer. I've been an election judge in a GOP district. I got a copy of the election results of each machine and had to sign every provisional ballot. I also got a list of all the provisional ballots too.

If anything, her incompetence helped Scott. And furthermore, the additional scrutiny that you guys are heaping on Broward is probably helping Nelson, simply by make sure that the ballots are counted.

By the way, the only way this flips is if a poor ballot design resulted in the original vote total being off because the machines didn't read the ballots correctly originally. If that flips the election, you still have the ballots, you'll have a HAND recount, and each one of those ballots has to match hash totals.

I'm sure there is theoretically a way to steal an election, but don't you think that they'd steal the Governor's race too if they were to bother to do so? Either way, Dr Snipes doesn't appear to be competent enough to pull a massive ballot stuffing operation that would escape discovery using even the most basic scrutiny.