Rumors are tv votes are taking place
(10-22-2018 10:45 PM)jaredf29 Wrote: [ -> ]Rumors are tv votes are taking place
I hope all the AD's vote no to ESpin while using their middle fingers to do so.
So it's a vote to accept whatever number Aresco/ESPN reached or to go to the open market?
(10-22-2018 10:45 PM)jaredf29 Wrote: [ -> ]Rumors are tv votes are taking place
If true, could it be that the over the top venom being spewed by ESPN at the AAC lately is a sign that that they don't expect us to accept there offer? If not could it be that the American already knows that there's a better offer waiting and are prepared to weather the heat until February. Hmmm,,, just wondering.
You know it is some crap offer like $2.2 million.
Not going to be a vote at this meeting, other than perhaps some verbal guidance, at best. We are still months away from finalizing something with ESPN or anybody else.
I’ll bet with knightime and Triple A
(10-23-2018 08:10 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: [ -> ]You know it is some crap offer like $2.2 million.
Naw I don't think it's that low. I think if there's an offer on the table it's probably about 4-5 million for everything with a lot of espn+ coverage and no language regarding how they promote and portray us as a conference. I truly believe that Aresco and the school presidents know that they can do better than that on the open market. I think that it's impossible that the conference hasn't already received some preliminary figures from other bidders to use as a guide through these early talks with ESPN. I think ESPN would have to open up the check book to prevent the AAC from splitting up our content.
(10-23-2018 07:36 AM)Mestophalies Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2018 10:45 PM)jaredf29 Wrote: [ -> ]Rumors are tv votes are taking place
I hope all the AD's vote no to ESpin while using their middle fingers to do so.
As fun as that would be, we can’t bite the hand that feeds.
It all boils down to two things:
1) How much does ESPN value the AAC content
2) Are other providers willing to provide a competitive bid for the product.
IF ESPN values the content, they aren't going to let this get to an open bid. My guess is the AAC has hired consultants who have independently tested the waters with potential suitors for the conference come February. This gives the AAC an idea of what kind of they can expect in the open market. Likewise, ESPN will have conducted studies to see what the market is willing to endure as well. As I indicate, if ESPN wants to keep the product and there are indications there are suitors willing to play, ESPN is going to put up a competitive number to avoid getting in a bidding war. I think all things being equal the conference would like to stay with ESPN, but of course money talks and you know walks.
(10-23-2018 08:42 AM)Pony94 Wrote: [ -> ]I’ll bet with knightime and Triple A
Very interesting.
(10-23-2018 11:16 AM)CougarRed Wrote: [ -> ] (10-23-2018 08:42 AM)Pony94 Wrote: [ -> ]I’ll bet with knightime and Triple A
Very interesting.
I didn't say how much hahahaha
(10-23-2018 10:18 AM)jaredf29 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-23-2018 07:36 AM)Mestophalies Wrote: [ -> ] (10-22-2018 10:45 PM)jaredf29 Wrote: [ -> ]Rumors are tv votes are taking place
I hope all the AD's vote no to ESpin while using their middle fingers to do so.
As fun as that would be, we can’t bite the hand that feeds.
You mean the hand that slaps us and the boot on our backs keeping us down.
(10-23-2018 08:42 AM)Pony94 Wrote: [ -> ]I’ll bet with knightime and Triple A
Just don't lump me into the $2.2M crowd, lol. I think we get at least $6M. Based on our ratings, you could make an arguable case that we're actually worth about $15-18M, but of course, that ain't happening, either.
I also think we will have a lot of Friday night slots, and a lot more games pushed down a level or 2 on ESPN.
(10-23-2018 01:30 PM)TripleA Wrote: [ -> ] (10-23-2018 08:42 AM)Pony94 Wrote: [ -> ]I’ll bet with knightime and Triple A
Just don't lump me into the $2.2M crowd, lol. I think we get at least $6M. Based on our ratings, you could make an arguable case that we're actually worth about $15-18M, but of course, that ain't happening, either.
I also think we will have a lot of Friday night slots, and a lot more games pushed down a level or 2 on ESPN.
I could see a some or all of the stuff we have on CBS-Sports potentially moving to ESPN-Plus if we signed an "all in" deal with ESPN.
Is there any sort of precedent for what a non-football member gets in these deals? Say 1/2 share; 2/3 share?
The old BE would have had some sort of a split like that, but really you guys split up at the very front edge of the modern TV money curve. The NBE (basketball-only, obviously) schools get $4M from the 2013 Fox Sports deal, so if WSU gets less than that (with WSU in the AAC being somewhat analogous) then the NBE ish talk will commence.
I saw the meeting agenda this past weekend when I was grilling out with Aresco and Pony94. I couldn't take a pic of the agenda without getting caught and so this is just a few things off of memory...
1. Tulsa's Gazebo: local community is protesting, saying the steeple on the thing violates Tulsa city ordinance
2. ECU: In or Out
3. Temple: Trying to get enough presidential votes to allow future home games to take place in a city park (will promise to provide 100 red and white lawn chairs as concession)
4. UCF: should they get more money than the rest of the league
5. Final ruling if Stooky is actually a BC troll or not
There were some other things, but these were the ones I can recall for now.
(10-23-2018 03:12 PM)SHOCK_value Wrote: [ -> ]Is there any sort of precedent for what a non-football member gets in these deals? Say 1/2 share; 2/3 share?
The old BE would have had some sort of a split like that, but really you guys split up at the very front edge of the modern TV money curve. The NBE (basketball-only, obviously) schools get $4M from the 2013 Fox Sports deal, so if WSU gets less than that (with WSU in the AAC being somewhat analogous) then the NBE ish talk will commence.
Back when UH and Boise were offered an invite by the Big East, the invitation documents indicated that for TV revenue, non-football members would receive 30% of a full all sports share.
I think they are talking about a realignment within the AAC.
New Divisional Alignment:
Dead-Weight Division
Tulsa
Tulane
Temple
ECU
UCONN
Load Bearing Division
UC: hoops and now fb coming back
UCF: fb and hoops coming on
USF: fb
UH: fb and hoops
Memphis: fb and hoops
SMU: hoops
Navy: army/navy game...I guess
Teams in the Load Bearing Division get all the TV money in the next TV deal.
Teams in the Dead-Weight Division pay to be here.