These teams control their own destinies in the race for the 2018 C-USA Football Championship:
Charlotte
Florida International
UAB
These teams need help:
Florida Atlantic
Louisiana Tech
Marshall
Middle Tennessee
North Texas
Old Dominion
Rice
Southern Miss
UTEP
UTSA
Western Kentucky
In other words both divisions are wide open
Yeah, it’s hard to think that if MTSU loses once more and we win out (NOT happening) then we win the east as piss poor as we have played. Same for FAU.
I think I see a typo. Did you say Charlotte is one of two teams left in the east that controls its destiny? That can’t be right! Triple check that please? Clt! What say you to this?
* I did pick the Man from UNCCharLottE to win this week so I’m at least thinking about hopping on the bandwagon, but still...
Again, this is the WORST CUSA has ever been since it's inception.
(10-14-2018 05:48 AM)Stick4489 Wrote: [ -> ]These teams control their own destinies in the race for the 2018 C-USA Football Championship:
Charlotte
Florida International
UAB
These teams need help:
Florida Atlantic
Louisiana Tech
Marshall
Middle Tennessee
North Texas
Old Dominion
Rice
Southern Miss
UTEP
UTSA
Western Kentucky
Doesn't FAU control their own destiny, as well, as do MTSU and Marshall?
(10-14-2018 09:48 AM)goliath74 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2018 05:48 AM)Stick4489 Wrote: [ -> ]These teams control their own destinies in the race for the 2018 C-USA Football Championship:
Charlotte
Florida International
UAB
These teams need help:
Florida Atlantic
Louisiana Tech
Marshall
Middle Tennessee
North Texas
Old Dominion
Rice
Southern Miss
UTEP
UTSA
Western Kentucky
Doesn't FAU control their own destiny, as well, as do MTSU and Marshall?
I could be wrong but, If Raiders win out then they still have the tie breaker over you and Marshall (assuming one of you win out), so Marshall/FAU need MTSU to get a 2nd loss. But Raiders need FIU to lose 2 games as well.
(10-14-2018 09:48 AM)goliath74 Wrote: [ -> ]Doesn't FAU control their own destiny, as well, as do MTSU and Marshall?
Negative on all accounts.
If FIU doesn’t lose twice, MTSU doesn’t control its destiny.
If MTSU doesn’t lose once more, then neither FAU or Marshal control their destiny.
Because those teams don’t control those outcomes, they do not control their own destiny.
If FAU, Marshall, N Tex, UTSA win out, they will be division champs.
The same as Charlotte, FIU, and UAB.
Am I missing any other team that does not need help from others ?
La Tech, USM need help in West. As do UTEP and Rice if they are not eliminated.
Unless until all the other 13 CUSA FB teams quit playing FB mid season there is no amount of help that will bail ODU from this season and guide towards the race. The Monarchs mission "Expedition Milky Way" has missed the trajectory by a small degree and is now headed for the nearby Alpha Centauri and isn't expected to be back by 2019 so we will probably have our team ready in 2020.
(10-14-2018 11:17 AM)notnow Wrote: [ -> ]If FAU, Marshall, N Tex, UTSA win out, they will be division champs.
The same as Charlotte, FIU, and UAB.
Am I missing any other team that does not need help from others ?
La Tech, USM need help in West. As do UTEP and Rice if they are not eliminated.
MTSU already played FAU and Marshall so even if Marshall or FAU win out they need MTSU to lose at least one more game for them to be division champ. If MTSU wins out, they own the tiebreaks over those two teams with equal conference wins.
Who would win tiebreaker if Marshall and MTSU both win the rest of the way out?
Wouldn't there be a 3 way tie for first with MTSU, Marshall, and FIU all having one loss? MTSU beat Marshall who (will have under this scenario) beat FIU who in turn beat MTSU lol
How would that be decided?
(10-14-2018 11:28 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2018 11:17 AM)notnow Wrote: [ -> ]If FAU, Marshall, N Tex, UTSA win out, they will be division champs.
The same as Charlotte, FIU, and UAB.
Am I missing any other team that does not need help from others ?
La Tech, USM need help in West. As do UTEP and Rice if they are not eliminated.
MTSU already played FAU and Marshall so even if Marshall or FAU win out they need MTSU to lose at least one more game for them to be division champ. If MTSU wins out, they own the tiebreaks over those two teams with equal conference wins.
My bad. You are right about the east.
In the west, however, UTSA, USM, N Tex, UAB all could win the west?
Tie breaker might determine the thing.
If UAB and FIU win out in conference, which team hosts CUSA Title game?
(10-14-2018 10:04 AM)CoachMaclid Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2018 09:48 AM)goliath74 Wrote: [ -> ]Doesn't FAU control their own destiny, as well, as do MTSU and Marshall?
Negative on all accounts.
If FIU doesn’t lose twice, MTSU doesn’t control its destiny.
If MTSU doesn’t lose once more, then neither FAU or Marshal control their destiny.
Because those teams don’t control those outcomes, they do not control their own destiny.
If MTSU and FAU win out, they will be in a three-way tie with FIU.
So, yes, FAU and MTSU, as well as FIU control their destinies.
(10-14-2018 03:58 PM)goliath74 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2018 10:04 AM)CoachMaclid Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2018 09:48 AM)goliath74 Wrote: [ -> ]Doesn't FAU control their own destiny, as well, as do MTSU and Marshall?
Negative on all accounts.
If FIU doesn’t lose twice, MTSU doesn’t control its destiny.
If MTSU doesn’t lose once more, then neither FAU or Marshal control their destiny.
Because those teams don’t control those outcomes, they do not control their own destiny.
If MTSU and FAU win out, they will be in a three-way tie with FIU.
So, yes, FAU and MTSU, as well as FIU control their destinies.
then it comes down to rankings, which neither fau or mtsu control. if fiu wins out, they win east...if fau and mtsu win out, their hands are in the fate of the voters, so they don't control anything.
(10-14-2018 04:03 PM)NTTHOR Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2018 03:58 PM)goliath74 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2018 10:04 AM)CoachMaclid Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2018 09:48 AM)goliath74 Wrote: [ -> ]Doesn't FAU control their own destiny, as well, as do MTSU and Marshall?
Negative on all accounts.
If FIU doesn’t lose twice, MTSU doesn’t control its destiny.
If MTSU doesn’t lose once more, then neither FAU or Marshal control their destiny.
Because those teams don’t control those outcomes, they do not control their own destiny.
If MTSU and FAU win out, they will be in a three-way tie with FIU.
So, yes, FAU and MTSU, as well as FIU control their destinies.
then it comes down to rankings, which neither fau or mtsu control. if fiu wins out, they win east...if fau and mtsu win out, their hands are in the fate of the voters, so they don't control anything.
If FAU wins out - FIU doesn't. It's that easy.
(10-14-2018 03:58 PM)goliath74 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2018 10:04 AM)CoachMaclid Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2018 09:48 AM)goliath74 Wrote: [ -> ]Doesn't FAU control their own destiny, as well, as do MTSU and Marshall?
Negative on all accounts.
If FIU doesn’t lose twice, MTSU doesn’t control its destiny.
If MTSU doesn’t lose once more, then neither FAU or Marshal control their destiny.
Because those teams don’t control those outcomes, they do not control their own destiny.
If MTSU and FAU win out, they will be in a three-way tie with FIU.
So, yes, FAU and MTSU, as well as FIU control their destinies.
Needing another team to win out or lose an extra game is not controlling your own destiny
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(10-14-2018 12:58 PM)notnow Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2018 11:28 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2018 11:17 AM)notnow Wrote: [ -> ]If FAU, Marshall, N Tex, UTSA win out, they will be division champs.
The same as Charlotte, FIU, and UAB.
Am I missing any other team that does not need help from others ?
La Tech, USM need help in West. As do UTEP and Rice if they are not eliminated.
MTSU already played FAU and Marshall so even if Marshall or FAU win out they need MTSU to lose at least one more game for them to be division champ. If MTSU wins out, they own the tiebreaks over those two teams with equal conference wins.
My bad. You are right about the east.
In the west, however, UTSA, USM, N Tex, UAB all could win the west?
Tie breaker might determine the thing.
If UAB and FIU win out in conference, which team hosts CUSA Title game?
It's not about what could happen. If any team needs another team to win or lose to take their division then "they need help." Only undefeated teams in each division at this point in time control their own destiny. When there are no more undefeated teams within a division, then the landscape changes and it becomes more complicated.
For instance, FIU and Charlotte are undefeated in division play. If they both keep winning and then play each other, the winner is the division champ. If they both lose a game then it becomes a tangled mess with all the other one loss teams. If only 1, 1 loss team exists at that point, it all resets and they are the front runner. And so on. "Controlling your own destiny" just means as long as you keep winning you are the champs.
In 15 years of him doing this post I've never seen him get one wrong. But I've seen people argue with it every single time, lol.
PS the winner if both teams win out goes to the highest ranked team. Unless you're Rice. Then, of course, it defaults to Rice.
(10-14-2018 04:14 PM)MUther Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2018 12:58 PM)notnow Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2018 11:28 AM)FIU4Ever Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2018 11:17 AM)notnow Wrote: [ -> ]If FAU, Marshall, N Tex, UTSA win out, they will be division champs.
The same as Charlotte, FIU, and UAB.
Am I missing any other team that does not need help from others ?
La Tech, USM need help in West. As do UTEP and Rice if they are not eliminated.
MTSU already played FAU and Marshall so even if Marshall or FAU win out they need MTSU to lose at least one more game for them to be division champ. If MTSU wins out, they own the tiebreaks over those two teams with equal conference wins.
My bad. You are right about the east.
In the west, however, UTSA, USM, N Tex, UAB all could win the west?
Tie breaker might determine the thing.
If UAB and FIU win out in conference, which team hosts CUSA Title game?
It's not about what could happen. If any team needs another team to win or lose to take their division then "they need help." Only undefeated teams in each division at this point in time control their own destiny. When there are no more undefeated teams within a division, then the landscape changes and it becomes more complicated.
For instance, FIU and Charlotte are undefeated in division play. If they both keep winning and then play each other, the winner is the division champ. If they both lose a game then it becomes a tangled mess with all the other one loss teams. If only 1, 1 loss team exists at that point, it all resets and they are the front runner. And so on. "Controlling your own destiny" just means as long as you keep winning you are the champs.
In 15 years of him doing this post I've never seen him get one wrong. But I've seen people argue with it every single time, lol.
Yep, if UAB wins the next 4 games we are division champs outright even if we lose on the road to MTSU. A tall order of course...
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(10-14-2018 04:10 PM)Shrack Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2018 03:58 PM)goliath74 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2018 10:04 AM)CoachMaclid Wrote: [ -> ] (10-14-2018 09:48 AM)goliath74 Wrote: [ -> ]Doesn't FAU control their own destiny, as well, as do MTSU and Marshall?
Negative on all accounts.
If FIU doesn’t lose twice, MTSU doesn’t control its destiny.
If MTSU doesn’t lose once more, then neither FAU or Marshal control their destiny.
Because those teams don’t control those outcomes, they do not control their own destiny.
If MTSU and FAU win out, they will be in a three-way tie with FIU.
So, yes, FAU and MTSU, as well as FIU control their destinies.
Needing another team to win out or lose an extra game is not controlling your own destiny
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I see what you're saying. I assumed all three teams will get their best results, which would lead to a three-way tie. But, in my scenario, if FIU trips one more tie, MTSU wins the division