10-02-2018, 03:20 PM
Self explanatory. If UCF runs the table again and gets IN the 4 team playoff, does anyone know if the G5 then is allowed an additional team in the NY6 as the top remaining G5 champ? If so, a link would be appreciated.
(10-02-2018 03:40 PM)Eldonabe Wrote: [ -> ]That’s rhetorical because UCF will not be in the playoff unless no p5 has less than 2 losses.
So not happening.
(10-02-2018 03:52 PM)BePcr07 Wrote: [ -> ]The rule states the G5 highest ranked champion gets a NY6 bid. CFP = NY6. No other guaranteed bids. The G5 team would need to be ranked high enough. 2009 season Fiesta Bowl (BCS with similar rule) - undefeated Boise St from WAC vs undefeated TCU from MWC. Boise St was #6 and TCU was #3. NY6 would likely require similar circumstances.
(10-02-2018 03:40 PM)Eldonabe Wrote: [ -> ]That’s rhetorical because UCF will not be in the playoff unless no p5 has less than 2 losses.
So not happening.
(10-02-2018 03:59 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote: [ -> ](10-02-2018 03:52 PM)BePcr07 Wrote: [ -> ]The rule states the G5 highest ranked champion gets a NY6 bid. CFP = NY6. No other guaranteed bids. The G5 team would need to be ranked high enough. 2009 season Fiesta Bowl (BCS with similar rule) - undefeated Boise St from WAC vs undefeated TCU from MWC. Boise St was #6 and TCU was #3. NY6 would likely require similar circumstances.
That answers my question. Thanks.
(10-02-2018 05:42 PM)ken d Wrote: [ -> ](10-02-2018 03:59 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote: [ -> ](10-02-2018 03:52 PM)BePcr07 Wrote: [ -> ]The rule states the G5 highest ranked champion gets a NY6 bid. CFP = NY6. No other guaranteed bids. The G5 team would need to be ranked high enough. 2009 season Fiesta Bowl (BCS with similar rule) - undefeated Boise St from WAC vs undefeated TCU from MWC. Boise St was #6 and TCU was #3. NY6 would likely require similar circumstances.
That answers my question. Thanks.
There is a hypothetical which would likely never be possible. If UCF were to finish with one loss and still get picked as one of the four semifinalists, I believe if that loss kept them out of the AAC championship game that the highest ranked G5 conference champion would still get the automatic berth.
But that would require that there weren't enough one or two loss teams ranked ahead of UCF. What are the odds of that?
(10-02-2018 03:52 PM)BePcr07 Wrote: [ -> ]The rule states the G5 highest ranked champion gets a NY6 bid. CFP = NY6. No other guaranteed bids. The G5 team would need to be ranked high enough. 2009 season Fiesta Bowl (BCS with similar rule) - undefeated Boise St from WAC vs undefeated TCU from MWC. Boise St was #6 and TCU was #3. NY6 would likely require similar circumstances.The Univ. of Cincinnati will get the bid with a 12 & 1 record.
(10-03-2018 06:17 AM)MagicKnightmare Wrote: [ -> ]In a fairytale world where UCF somehow gets into the playoffs, that is still the G5 spot and nobody else gets in.
(10-03-2018 08:36 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ](10-03-2018 06:17 AM)MagicKnightmare Wrote: [ -> ]In a fairytale world where UCF somehow gets into the playoffs, that is still the G5 spot and nobody else gets in.
I think it is indeterminate, the rules don't directly speak to the situation. My guess would be that as Ken said above, if a G5 team somehow made the playoffs without being a conference champ, then the top-rated G5 champ would in fact go to an Access Bowl.
What I'm not sure about is if the G5 team that goes to the playoffs is a champ. IMO that could go either way: On one hand, the rules say that the highest-rated G5 champ will go to an *access* bowl, and the playoffs aren't an access bowl, which implies that the next-highest G5 champ would go to an access bowl. On the other, it says that the *highest-rated* G5 champ goes to an access bowl, and if the highest-rated champ is in the playoffs, then no other G5 champ would go to an access bowl because they wouldn't be "highest rated".
I just don't know.
(10-03-2018 10:10 AM)MagicKnightmare Wrote: [ -> ](10-03-2018 08:36 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ](10-03-2018 06:17 AM)MagicKnightmare Wrote: [ -> ]In a fairytale world where UCF somehow gets into the playoffs, that is still the G5 spot and nobody else gets in.
I think it is indeterminate, the rules don't directly speak to the situation. My guess would be that as Ken said above, if a G5 team somehow made the playoffs without being a conference champ, then the top-rated G5 champ would in fact go to an Access Bowl.
What I'm not sure about is if the G5 team that goes to the playoffs is a champ. IMO that could go either way: On one hand, the rules say that the highest-rated G5 champ will go to an *access* bowl, and the playoffs aren't an access bowl, which implies that the next-highest G5 champ would go to an access bowl. On the other, it says that the *highest-rated* G5 champ goes to an access bowl, and if the highest-rated champ is in the playoffs, then no other G5 champ would go to an access bowl because they wouldn't be "highest rated".
I just don't know.
I could see the confusion. Again, I don't think we are ever worried about this being a real situation and I don't think the committee is either, but my feeling is that if push came to shove, there would not be another G5 in the NY6 bowls if by some miracle a G5 were in the playoffs.
(10-03-2018 10:38 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote: [ -> ]UCF will have a very strong argument to get in if they go undefeated again.
(10-03-2018 10:55 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ](10-03-2018 10:38 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote: [ -> ]UCF will have a very strong argument to get in if they go undefeated again.
Why? It's not that big of an accomplishment to go unbeaten versus an easy schedule. We don't know if UCF's schedule will end up being easy or not, but if it is, they will likely not deserve a playoff spot.
(10-02-2018 03:20 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote: [ -> ]Self explanatory. If UCF runs the table again and gets IN the 4 team playoff, does anyone know if the G5 then is allowed an additional team in the NY6 as the top remaining G5 champ? If so, a link would be appreciated.
(10-03-2018 11:46 AM)otown Wrote: [ -> ](10-03-2018 10:55 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ](10-03-2018 10:38 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote: [ -> ]UCF will have a very strong argument to get in if they go undefeated again.
Why? It's not that big of an accomplishment to go unbeaten versus an easy schedule. We don't know if UCF's schedule will end up being easy or not, but if it is, they will likely not deserve a playoff spot.
Horrible assumption. Tell me, how many G5s have gone undefeated in the past decade? By your presumption, they all have horrible schedules....... although most other G5 conferences are much more horrible than the AAC........ but if it's so easy, why is this not a yearly occurance?
(10-03-2018 11:46 AM)otown Wrote: [ -> ](10-03-2018 10:55 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ](10-03-2018 10:38 AM)Jjoey52 Wrote: [ -> ]UCF will have a very strong argument to get in if they go undefeated again.
Why? It's not that big of an accomplishment to go unbeaten versus an easy schedule. We don't know if UCF's schedule will end up being easy or not, but if it is, they will likely not deserve a playoff spot.
Horrible assumption. Tell me, how many G5s have gone undefeated in the past decade? By your presumption, they all have horrible schedules......
(10-02-2018 05:42 PM)ken d Wrote: [ -> ](10-02-2018 03:59 PM)asucrutch23 Wrote: [ -> ](10-02-2018 03:52 PM)BePcr07 Wrote: [ -> ]The rule states the G5 highest ranked champion gets a NY6 bid. CFP = NY6. No other guaranteed bids. The G5 team would need to be ranked high enough. 2009 season Fiesta Bowl (BCS with similar rule) - undefeated Boise St from WAC vs undefeated TCU from MWC. Boise St was #6 and TCU was #3. NY6 would likely require similar circumstances.
That answers my question. Thanks.
There is a hypothetical which would likely never be possible. If UCF were to finish with one loss and still get picked as one of the four semifinalists, I believe if that loss kept them out of the AAC championship game that the highest ranked G5 conference champion would still get the automatic berth.
But that would require that there weren't enough one or two loss teams ranked ahead of UCF. What are the odds of that?