Lets face it, the NY6 bowl is a bone bowl for the g5 from the A5 and it’s a crap bowl for the A5 team that has the misfortune of losing an important game at the end of there season there for they are totally disgusted to be in this bowl and to have to play a lowly g5 champion, how terrible for the A5 team and then lose... gosh that has to hurt
So what has this bowl become or what is it becoming
The G5 gets money and prestige, but how long will this prestige last, the bone will have been knawed on enough and become undesirable
A5, what do they get ?, it looks like they are punishing an already down trodden team by throwing them to a vicious pack of dogs only to be shredded
NY6 bowl should have a different name while it still lasts
(08-02-2018 09:39 AM)JHS55 Wrote: [ -> ]Lets face it, the NY6 bowl is a bone bowl for the g5 from the A5 and it’s a crap bowl for the A5 team that has the misfortune of losing an important game at the end of there season there for they are totally disgusted to be in this bowl and to have to play a lowly g5 champion, how terrible for the A5 team and then lose... gosh that has to hurt
Your trollish sarcasm is duly noted, but of course there also is a big dose of truth in it.
I mean, think about Auburn: You've just played and lost to Georgia for an SEC title and a playoff spot, and now you're going to be excited to play ... AAC champ Central Florida?
Or it's 2016 and you're Wisconsin, you just lost the B1G title game to Penn State, and you're going to be excited to play ... MAC champ Western Michigan?
Anyone should be able to see the issue there.
(08-02-2018 09:39 AM)JHS55 Wrote: [ -> ]Lets face it, the NY6 bowl is a bone bowl for the g5 from the A5 and it’s a crap bowl for the A5 team that has the misfortune of losing an important game at the end of there season there for they are totally disgusted to be in this bowl and to have to play a lowly g5 champion, how terrible for the A5 team and then lose... gosh that has to hurt
So what has this bowl become or what is it becoming
The G5 gets money and prestige, but how long will this prestige last, the bone will have been knawed on enough and become undesirable
A5, what do they get ?, it looks like they are punishing an already down trodden team by throwing them to a vicious pack of dogs only to be shredded
NY6 bowl should have a different name while it still lasts
Sounds like an argument to make the G5 slot a playoff slot when the eventual expansion to 8 occurs.
Wait a sec. A Houston fan not buying the p6 campaign? THAT is something.
(08-02-2018 10:36 AM)jdgaucho Wrote: [ -> ]Wait a sec. A Houston fan not buying the p6 campaign? THAT is something.
That’s not so...
Step 1: Expand the play off to 8 teams
Step 2: Use all the existing NY6 bowl games as the quarter and semifinal slots including the Access bowl
Step 3: All P5 champs, 2 at large, and 1 G5 champ get it
Step 4: Profit off of 7 games of great, well-attended, well-rated football.
(08-02-2018 09:59 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (08-02-2018 09:39 AM)JHS55 Wrote: [ -> ]Lets face it, the NY6 bowl is a bone bowl for the g5 from the A5 and it’s a crap bowl for the A5 team that has the misfortune of losing an important game at the end of there season there for they are totally disgusted to be in this bowl and to have to play a lowly g5 champion, how terrible for the A5 team and then lose... gosh that has to hurt
Your trollish sarcasm is duly noted, but of course there also is a big dose of truth in it.
I mean, think about Auburn: You've just played and lost to Georgia for an SEC title and a playoff spot, and now you're going to be excited to play ... AAC champ Central Florida?
Or it's 2016 and you're Wisconsin, you just lost the B1G title game to Penn State, and you're going to be excited to play ... MAC champ Western Michigan?
Anyone should be able to see the issue there.
I have to really feel bad for the A5 team fans that bother going to those games. Why bother to go.
(08-02-2018 03:46 PM)sierrajip Wrote: [ -> ] (08-02-2018 09:59 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (08-02-2018 09:39 AM)JHS55 Wrote: [ -> ]Lets face it, the NY6 bowl is a bone bowl for the g5 from the A5 and it’s a crap bowl for the A5 team that has the misfortune of losing an important game at the end of there season there for they are totally disgusted to be in this bowl and to have to play a lowly g5 champion, how terrible for the A5 team and then lose... gosh that has to hurt
Your trollish sarcasm is duly noted, but of course there also is a big dose of truth in it.
I mean, think about Auburn: You've just played and lost to Georgia for an SEC title and a playoff spot, and now you're going to be excited to play ... AAC champ Central Florida?
Or it's 2016 and you're Wisconsin, you just lost the B1G title game to Penn State, and you're going to be excited to play ... MAC champ Western Michigan?
Anyone should be able to see the issue there.
I have to really feel bad for the A5 team fans that bother going to those games. Why bother to go.
Because it’s a competitive game of college football. That auburn/ UCF game was fun as hell to watch last year
Yes it was and it helps AAC recruiting too
(08-02-2018 10:41 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote: [ -> ]Step 1: Expand the play off to 8 teams
Step 2: Use all the existing NY6 bowl games as the quarter and semifinal slots including the Access bowl
Step 3: All P5 champs, 2 at large, and 1 G5 champ get it
Step 4: Profit off of 7 games of great, well-attended, well-rated football.
Lesson learned from the BCS...if there are automatic bids, there must be a metric to allow for the qualification of all conferences to earn an automatic bid.
I believe this is why the powers at be want to avoid automatic bids for the playoff portion of the postseason.
In the non-BCS era there were 5 conferences (MWC, WAC, CUSA, MAC, SBC)
Then the rule was a champion from those 4 leagues would qualify if rated in the Top 12 or Top 16 above a BCS champion.
The MAC had 13-14 members, CUSA only 12 and the MWC, WAC, SBC around 9 without championship games to go through.
The new system does have a guaranteed access bowl but every conference has to go through a championship game.
That is why if it was the Top 2 champions from the G5 getting placed it would more equitable and put more on the line during the G5 races.
What if UCF and Boise State goes unbeaten this year? Who would get in? Boise State seems more of a favor to the people in the polls than UCF.
(08-03-2018 08:10 AM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ]What if UCF and Boise State goes unbeaten this year? Who would get in? Boise State seems more of a favor to the people in the polls than UCF.
I think they would take their strength of schedule into account at that point
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Step 1: Expand the play off to 8 teams
Step 2: Use all the existing NY6 bowl games as the quarter and semifinal slots including the Access bowl
Step 3: All P5 champs, 2 at large, and 1 G5 champ get it
Step 4: Profit off of 7 games of great, well-attended, well-rated football.
Only thing I would add would be to use the traditional bowl tie-ins as the first round. Rose Bowl can host the Big Ten-PAC XII champion. SEC champ can starts in the sugar bowl. Yes you lose some of fairness with seeding but I think you win back some fans with the traditional bowl matchups.
(08-02-2018 09:59 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (08-02-2018 09:39 AM)JHS55 Wrote: [ -> ]Lets face it, the NY6 bowl is a bone bowl for the g5 from the A5 and it’s a crap bowl for the A5 team that has the misfortune of losing an important game at the end of there season there for they are totally disgusted to be in this bowl and to have to play a lowly g5 champion, how terrible for the A5 team and then lose... gosh that has to hurt
Your trollish sarcasm is duly noted, but of course there also is a big dose of truth in it.
I mean, think about Auburn: You've just played and lost to Georgia for an SEC title and a playoff spot, and now you're going to be excited to play ... AAC champ Central Florida?
Or it's 2016 and you're Wisconsin, you just lost the B1G title game to Penn State, and you're going to be excited to play ... MAC champ Western Michigan?
Anyone should be able to see the issue there.
We also cant forget that when things go bad, they go very bad.
It was more expensive to buy parking than tickets for FSU v. NIU a few years back.
(08-03-2018 08:10 AM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ]What if UCF and Boise State goes unbeaten this year? Who would get in? Boise State seems more of a favor to the people in the polls than UCF.
If UCF wins 26 straight games public pressure would probably be insurmountable to put them in. Possibly even into the playoff
(08-03-2018 09:12 AM)Gamecock Wrote: [ -> ] (08-03-2018 08:10 AM)DavidSt Wrote: [ -> ]What if UCF and Boise State goes unbeaten this year? Who would get in? Boise State seems more of a favor to the people in the polls than UCF.
If UCF wins 26 straight games public pressure would probably be insurmountable to put them in. Possibly even into the playoff
Yet the committee would simply site SOS and rank UCF #12 saying something like “every season is viewed separately—2017 is not part of the equation”. Make no mistake—the Committee has no intention of letting any G5 in the playoff unless/until the rules actually compel them to do so. The only exception to this very basic truth would be if the committee composition was changed to a 50-50 split between G5 and P5 reps.
(08-02-2018 09:59 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (08-02-2018 09:39 AM)JHS55 Wrote: [ -> ]Lets face it, the NY6 bowl is a bone bowl for the g5 from the A5 and it’s a crap bowl for the A5 team that has the misfortune of losing an important game at the end of there season there for they are totally disgusted to be in this bowl and to have to play a lowly g5 champion, how terrible for the A5 team and then lose... gosh that has to hurt
Your trollish sarcasm is duly noted, but of course there also is a big dose of truth in it.
I mean, think about Auburn: You've just played and lost to Georgia for an SEC title and a playoff spot, and now you're going to be excited to play ... AAC champ Central Florida?
Or it's 2016 and you're Wisconsin, you just lost the B1G title game to Penn State, and you're going to be excited to play ... MAC champ Western Michigan?
Anyone should be able to see the issue there.
Auburn star Kerryon Johnson had trouble seeing it.
Quote:As far as motivation was concerned, Johnson made it clear he and his teammates were ready to go. He dispelled any “outside talk” as far as the players not giving their all, saying everyone involved realizes the work they put in to add an 11th win to the season.
“We were plenty motivated to get this win. We just shot ourselves in the foot,” Johnson said. “We knew how bad we wanted to win this game, and that’s what matters.”
https://www.ledger-enquirer.com/sports/a...87439.html
(08-03-2018 09:53 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-02-2018 09:59 AM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ] (08-02-2018 09:39 AM)JHS55 Wrote: [ -> ]Lets face it, the NY6 bowl is a bone bowl for the g5 from the A5 and it’s a crap bowl for the A5 team that has the misfortune of losing an important game at the end of there season there for they are totally disgusted to be in this bowl and to have to play a lowly g5 champion, how terrible for the A5 team and then lose... gosh that has to hurt
Your trollish sarcasm is duly noted, but of course there also is a big dose of truth in it.
I mean, think about Auburn: You've just played and lost to Georgia for an SEC title and a playoff spot, and now you're going to be excited to play ... AAC champ Central Florida?
Or it's 2016 and you're Wisconsin, you just lost the B1G title game to Penn State, and you're going to be excited to play ... MAC champ Western Michigan?
Anyone should be able to see the issue there.
Auburn star Kerryon Johnson had trouble seeing it.
Quote:As far as motivation was concerned, Johnson made it clear he and his teammates were ready to go. He dispelled any “outside talk” as far as the players not giving their all, saying everyone involved realizes the work they put in to add an 11th win to the season.
“We were plenty motivated to get this win. We just shot ourselves in the foot,” Johnson said. “We knew how bad we wanted to win this game, and that’s what matters.”
https://www.ledger-enquirer.com/sports/a...87439.html
Sure they were. Meant as much to them as the SEC title game and a trip to the playoffs.