Ain't nothin' folks in this part of the world didn't already know.
Word around San Marcos is that Withers was seen recently in a local JC Penney's purchasing a significant number of asbestos "tighty whities."
Completely preposterous for a first-year head coach to be on that list.
It's apparently just hard for some to accept Summers is a coach and GS a program where it's perfectly reasonable to make a change after 1.5 seasons.
You'd think we wouldn't be able to get any good assistants because of supposed unreasonable fans, but we have a better coaching staff than we had last year and poached a DC from a rival whose HC might be getting a P5 job any year now.
Lunsford isn't on the hot seat.
But, expectations are much higher this year. The questions about elevating a coach who was 2-4 as interim and part of a staff that was 2-10 will rise up early if those expectations aren't met.
I think GS made it clear you enter Statesboro on the hot seat after firing Summers after 18 games with a 5-13 record.
(07-21-2018 02:33 PM)_x_ Wrote: [ -> ]I think GS made it clear you enter Statesboro on the hot seat after firing Summers after 18 games with a 5-13 record.
How so?
If Summers could get fired after 18 games why couldn't Lunsford?
We were on the way to an 0-season with Summers. And this was after inheriting a very talented team the year before.
As an old coach once said we only expect you to win once a week.
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(07-21-2018 02:52 PM)_x_ Wrote: [ -> ]If Summers could get fired after 18 games why couldn't Lunsford?
18 games is 1 and a half seasons...not one. No matter how bad Summers was, Georgia Southern was still prepared to give him a 2nd year before they started threatening to pull a Southern Miss under Ellis Johnson. Not to mention, the GS team that Summers inherited had something like 9 or 10 straight plus .500 seasons and won a bowl the previous year. Lunsford inherits a team that has two straight sub .500 season and is not expected to make a bowl this year.
(07-21-2018 02:33 PM)_x_ Wrote: [ -> ]I think GS made it clear you enter Statesboro on the hot seat after firing Summers after 18 games with a 5-13 record.
No.
We made it clear that complaining about people noticing who you are in public around town prior to the season even starts and then taking over a roster that just went 18-7 with an undefeated conference championship and a dominating bowl win in the next season all coming back for their senior year, saying things like "We need to change the culture" and "They need to learn how to be a tough team," saying you're going to continue running the offense that had been so successful but not have any semblance of cohesiveness or competency and then confronting the fans by saying "We're 3-0 what more do you want" to a fanbase that is more educated in how option offenses work than you do as HC while also encouraging a "us versus them" attitude in the team against the fanbase then only winning 2 more games for the rest of your tenure with us is COMPLETELY.UNACCEPTABLE.
All of these things happened. Summers was cancerous to the attitude of the team and the fanbase. Things are much different already in the short time since Lunsford took over.
The idea that Lunsford is on the hot seat is laughable. We sit in a much different situation right now than the one we sat in back in Dec 2015.
(07-21-2018 10:32 PM)eaglewraith Wrote: [ -> ] (07-21-2018 02:33 PM)_x_ Wrote: [ -> ]I think GS made it clear you enter Statesboro on the hot seat after firing Summers after 18 games with a 5-13 record.
No.
We made it clear that complaining about people noticing who you are in public around town prior to the season even starts and then taking over a roster that just went 18-7 with an undefeated conference championship and a dominating bowl win in the next season all coming back for their senior year, saying things like "We need to change the culture" and "They need to learn how to be a tough team," saying you're going to continue running the offense that had been so successful but not have any semblance of cohesiveness or competency and then confronting the fans by saying "We're 3-0 what more do you want" to a fanbase that is more educated in how option offenses work than you do as HC while also encouraging a "us versus them" attitude in the team against the fanbase then only winning 2 more games for the rest of your tenure with us is COMPLETELY.UNACCEPTABLE.
All of these things happened. Summers was cancerous to the attitude of the team and the fanbase. Things are much different already in the short time since Lunsford took over.
The idea that Lunsford is on the hot seat is laughable. We sit in a much different situation right now than the one we sat in back in Dec 2015.
Yup, we were called crazy and even called out by a local writer for being restless after a 3-0 start and a non-competitive loss to Auburn, but we knew exactly what we were watching in both cases.
And we were also called crazy for firing Chris Hatcher and told no one would want the job and yadda yadda yadda and then Paul Johnson's top assistant comes down and wins 10 games and goes to a national semifinal the very next season.
Maybe it's just that after 7 coaching changes and lots of ups and downs this century and having head coaches with a really wide range of abilities that we actually know what we're doing.
(07-21-2018 10:32 PM)eaglewraith Wrote: [ -> ] (07-21-2018 02:33 PM)_x_ Wrote: [ -> ]I think GS made it clear you enter Statesboro on the hot seat after firing Summers after 18 games with a 5-13 record.
No.
We made it clear that complaining about people noticing who you are in public around town prior to the season even starts and then taking over a roster that just went 18-7 with an undefeated conference championship and a dominating bowl win in the next season all coming back for their senior year, saying things like "We need to change the culture" and "They need to learn how to be a tough team," saying you're going to continue running the offense that had been so successful but not have any semblance of cohesiveness or competency and then confronting the fans by saying "We're 3-0 what more do you want" to a fanbase that is more educated in how option offenses work than you do as HC while also encouraging a "us versus them" attitude in the team against the fanbase then only winning 2 more games for the rest of your tenure with us is COMPLETELY.UNACCEPTABLE.
All of these things happened. Summers was cancerous to the attitude of the team and the fanbase. Things are much different already in the short time since Lunsford took over.
The idea that Lunsford is on the hot seat is laughable. We sit in a much different situation right now than the one we sat in back in Dec 2015.
Yeah I really forgot all the stuff he did off the field over the course of the season. He really was a toxic guy in more ways than one. He made the players believe the fans were out to get them because of our unrealistic expectations. It sucked to see it go down on Twitter.
Before last season started when they were still doing fall workouts, he was suppose to come to the bookstore on campus after practice to sign autographs. He showed up 30 minutes late and acted super annoyed the whole time, like he didn’t want to be there at all and interacting with fans was a waste of his time. Very impersonal, but I chalked it up to him just being tired after a long practice. Anyways, I get up to the front of the line and I told him my mom birthday was the Auburn game and we were all going to the game as a family to celebrate it and I asked him if he would write a happy birthday message to her on my poster. He responded like, “you’re taking her to the Auburn game for her birthday? Hmphhh...okay then” and I could tell he didn’t think he had a chance in hell and he wasn’t even going to try to win the game. After being one of TS’s loudest supporters, I could see it in his eyes before the season even started. He didn’t know what he was doing and he wasn’t even going to try to figure it out.
After going 0-6, losing to an FCS school and then getting blown out by a previously winless UMASS, it was time for him to leave. We are still trying to put the pieces back together and reverse the damage he’s done. If he had been allowed to finish the season here, we would be even farther behind.
(07-21-2018 02:52 PM)_x_ Wrote: [ -> ]If Summers could get fired after 18 games why couldn't Lunsford?
Can you play 18 games in a season? Dumb as hell, he will get two full years just on finances alone unless it is a total disaster. We have to pay Tyson for two more years we would have to pay him for four more. Not to mention he crushed recruiting and landed the top Sun Belt class in basically a month. He is a safe as any coach in the country for two full years.
Is 18 games not how many Summers coached before he was fired?
Logic says Lunsford is safe for 2-3 yrs. But my guess is that the natives will be restless by this December if GS doesnt go bowling and lose to GSU&App again.
Our AD should have been fired a long time ago. If we don’t go bowling, Kleinfeld is gone.
(07-24-2018 01:53 AM)eagleskins Wrote: [ -> ]Our AD should have been fired a long time ago. If we don’t go bowling, Kleinfeld is gone.
Doubtful.
We're searching for a new President right now. No one is going to come in and get rid of the AD right away. He's safe for ~2 years more than likely.
(07-24-2018 06:17 PM)eaglewraith Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2018 01:53 AM)eagleskins Wrote: [ -> ]Our AD should have been fired a long time ago. If we don’t go bowling, Kleinfeld is gone.
Doubtful.
We're searching for a new President right now. No one is going to come in and get rid of the AD right away. He's safe for ~2 years more than likely.
Depending on who the new president is and how they view athletics, he may be safe longer than that. From a numbers standpoint he's doing exactly as he's expected to by the president. Dr Hebert said as much last year before he left. His main issues have been one INCREDIBLY bad hire and a hire that is still unknown. Very little else has put him anywhere near a hot seat.
(07-25-2018 08:01 AM)KJ Eagle Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2018 06:17 PM)eaglewraith Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2018 01:53 AM)eagleskins Wrote: [ -> ]Our AD should have been fired a long time ago. If we don’t go bowling, Kleinfeld is gone.
Doubtful.
We're searching for a new President right now. No one is going to come in and get rid of the AD right away. He's safe for ~2 years more than likely.
Depending on who the new president is and how they view athletics, he may be safe longer than that. From a numbers standpoint he's doing exactly as he's expected to by the president. Dr Hebert said as much last year before he left. His main issues have been one INCREDIBLY bad hire and a hire that is still unknown. Very little else has put him anywhere near a hot seat.
As much as people like to scapegoat TK, look at where our sports, facilities, and donations were in 2012 and look at where they are now. Yeah we had two rough years in football recently, but in the grand scheme we've been sucessful in all other areas.
(07-25-2018 08:01 AM)KJ Eagle Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2018 06:17 PM)eaglewraith Wrote: [ -> ] (07-24-2018 01:53 AM)eagleskins Wrote: [ -> ]Our AD should have been fired a long time ago. If we don’t go bowling, Kleinfeld is gone.
Doubtful.
We're searching for a new President right now. No one is going to come in and get rid of the AD right away. He's safe for ~2 years more than likely.
Depending on who the new president is and how they view athletics, he may be safe longer than that. From a numbers standpoint he's doing exactly as he's expected to by the president. Dr Hebert said as much last year before he left. His main issues have been one INCREDIBLY bad hire and a hire that is still unknown. Very little else has put him anywhere near a hot seat.
Yep. Everyone keeps saying "fire TK", and while I personally wouldn't be too upset to see him go, you're right that he's done everything he's supposed to do.
And really, he's made 3 football coaching hires: 1 was a home run, 1 was the worst hire in the history of college football, and 1 was very risky/still unknown. If Lunsford pans out, everyone will probably give TK a little more slack.