Bill Snyder was interviewed this PM at the Big 12 meetings by Sirius/XM College Sports' Rick Neuheisel. Snyder was asked about upcoming games with Miss St and replied that it was due to the "agreement with the SEC". Is there such an agreement?
Not in football. Baseball and Basketball have agreements.
(07-17-2018 06:34 PM)westwolf Wrote: [ -> ]Bill Snyder was interviewed this PM at the Big 12 meetings by Sirius/XM College Sports' Rick Neuheisel. Snyder was asked about upcoming games with Miss St and replied that it was due to the "agreement with the SEC". Is there such an agreement?
Yes. It's not a challenge kind of arrangement but it was an intentional pairing of schools for the purposes of having an OOC P5 game. Kansas State had a similar series with Auburn.
In basketball we play a challenge that involves 10 of our schools and all of theirs. That's what fans think more often of as an agreement. You'll remember that Arkansas played T.C.U. and Tennessee played Oklahoma, fairly recently as well. Some of those were set up as home and home's and some set up as 1 time neutral site games.
(07-17-2018 06:34 PM)westwolf Wrote: [ -> ]Bill Snyder was interviewed this PM at the Big 12 meetings by Sirius/XM College Sports' Rick Neuheisel. Snyder was asked about upcoming games with Miss St and replied that it was due to the "agreement with the SEC". Is there such an agreement?
I would LOVE for a SEC/Big 12 alliance in football but I haven’t heard anything and don’t see it happening
A better setup would be a 3-way agreement between the SEC, ACC and Big Ten, where each conference plays 7 games with the other two. Obvious pairings include: FSU/UF, GT/UGA, Clemson/SC, Wake/Vandy, UL/KY, VT/TN, Pitt/Penn St, VA/MD, and probably Cuse/Rutgers, Mizzou/Illinois, A&M/Nebraska, Alabama/Ohio State, etc.
(07-17-2018 10:03 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: [ -> ]A better setup would be a 3-way agreement between the SEC, ACC and Big Ten, where each conference plays 7 games with the other two. Obvious pairings include: FSU/UF, GT/UGA, Clemson/SC, Wake/Vandy, UL/KY, VT/TN, Pitt/Penn St, VA/MD, and probably Cuse/Rutgers, Mizzou/Illinois, A&M/Nebraska, Alabama/Ohio State, etc.
I seriously doubt we'll ever have a full SEC/Big 12 challenge in football because the Sugar Bowl in most years matches the two conferences. They wouldn't want to risk a do over and neither would the networks.
What ESPN might go for is an agreed upon number of games between the SEC/ACC/Big12. We'll see what they do in 2024 as far as going for Big 10 rights. If they go for more then it could work all the way around. If not it will be just those 3.
It has been mentioned to me by a Big 10 poster I know and trust that the networks and bowls are not enthusiastic over a regular season SEC/B1G challenge in football. We usually meet up in 3 to 4 bowls in the post season and they don't want do over games either.
(07-17-2018 10:16 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (07-17-2018 10:03 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: [ -> ]A better setup would be a 3-way agreement between the SEC, ACC and Big Ten, where each conference plays 7 games with the other two. Obvious pairings include: FSU/UF, GT/UGA, Clemson/SC, Wake/Vandy, UL/KY, VT/TN, Pitt/Penn St, VA/MD, and probably Cuse/Rutgers, Mizzou/Illinois, A&M/Nebraska, Alabama/Ohio State, etc.
I seriously doubt we'll ever have a full SEC/Big 12 challenge in football because the Sugar Bowl in most years matches the two conferences. They wouldn't want to risk a do over and neither would the networks.
What ESPN might go for is an agreed upon number of games between the SEC/ACC/Big12. We'll see what they do in 2024 as far as going for Big 10 rights. If they go for more then it could work all the way around. If not it will be just those 3.
It has been mentioned to me by a Big 10 poster I know and trust that the networks and bowls are not enthusiastic over a regular season SEC/B1G challenge in football. We usually meet up in 3 to 4 bowls in the post season and they don't want do over games either.
Yes, there's no need for an SEC - Big 12 challenge for the same reason there's no need for an SEC - ACC challenge. Just naturally via geography and history, and because of bowl ties, SEC teams play plenty of games vs both conferences anyway.
(07-17-2018 10:16 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (07-17-2018 10:03 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote: [ -> ]A better setup would be a 3-way agreement between the SEC, ACC and Big Ten, where each conference plays 7 games with the other two. Obvious pairings include: FSU/UF, GT/UGA, Clemson/SC, Wake/Vandy, UL/KY, VT/TN, Pitt/Penn St, VA/MD, and probably Cuse/Rutgers, Mizzou/Illinois, A&M/Nebraska, Alabama/Ohio State, etc.
I seriously doubt we'll ever have a full SEC/Big 12 challenge in football because the Sugar Bowl in most years matches the two conferences. They wouldn't want to risk a do over and neither would the networks.
What ESPN might go for is an agreed upon number of games between the SEC/ACC/Big12. We'll see what they do in 2024 as far as going for Big 10 rights. If they go for more then it could work all the way around. If not it will be just those 3.
It has been mentioned to me by a Big 10 poster I know and trust that the networks and bowls are not enthusiastic over a regular season SEC/B1G challenge in football. We usually meet up in 3 to 4 bowls in the post season and they don't want do over games either.
Yeah, SEC/Big Ten wouldn't make a whole lot of sense either. I DO think an SEC/Big 12 matchup would be a good idea - at least for the West schools - but I understand that it's unlikely for the reasons you mentioned.
Play who you want to play in OOC
There's no official SEC-ACC scheduling alliance but there's a defacto one due to history and geography.
(07-18-2018 08:51 AM)10thMountain Wrote: [ -> ]Play who you want to play in OOC
There's no official SEC-ACC scheduling alliance but there's a defacto one due to history and geography.
I mainly just want SC to schedule some teams outside of North Carolina. But I know they won't do it on their own so I want the league office to force them
(07-18-2018 09:10 AM)Gamecock Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018 08:51 AM)10thMountain Wrote: [ -> ]Play who you want to play in OOC
There's no official SEC-ACC scheduling alliance but there's a defacto one due to history and geography.
I mainly just want SC to schedule some teams outside of North Carolina. But I know they won't do it on their own so I want the league office to force them
VT/SC used to be a good series. I still remember Sterling Sharp returning a kick for a TD to tie the Hokies on Homecoming, 1986... ruined my whole day!
Agree that schools should just schedule who they want but if they did do scheduling alliances, maybe the best setup woul be by divisions
Big Ten East - 1/2 ACC
SEC east - 1/2 ACC
Big Ten West - 1/2 Big 12
SEC West - 1/2 Big 12
(07-18-2018 09:16 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018 09:10 AM)Gamecock Wrote: [ -> ] (07-18-2018 08:51 AM)10thMountain Wrote: [ -> ]Play who you want to play in OOC
There's no official SEC-ACC scheduling alliance but there's a defacto one due to history and geography.
I mainly just want SC to schedule some teams outside of North Carolina. But I know they won't do it on their own so I want the league office to force them
VT/SC used to be a good series. I still remember Sterling Sharp returning a kick for a TD to tie the Hokies on Homecoming, 1986... ruined my whole day!
I'd love to do a home and home. Always wanted to check out a game in Blacksburg
See Ole Miss - Texas Tech opener in Houston this year. I think there is something to it.
Did some snooping around and found these future SEC/Big 12 matchups. Looks like 18 total over the next 11 seasons (9 of which are from 2018-2020, which suggests more will probably be scheduled)
2018
Miss St @ Kansas St
Ole Miss vs. Texas Tech (Houston)
Tennessee vs. WVU (Charlotte)
2019
LSU @ Texas
Kansas St @ Miss St
WVU @ Missouri
2020
Ole Miss vs. Baylor (Houston)
Tennessee @ Oklahoma
Vanderbilt @ Kansas St
2021
Texas @ Arkansas
2022
Alabama @ Texas
Missouri @ Kansas St
2023
Texas @ Alabama
Kansas St @ Missouri
2024
Oklahoma @ Tennessee
2025
None
2026
None
2027
LSU @ Oklahoma
2028
Oklahoma @ LSU
Texas Tech @ Miss St
Well, this goes along the line of scheduling regionally or who you want. Rutgers does have upcoming games against former Big East schools Syracuse (ACC), BC (ACC), VT (ACC) and Temple (American). We want to play other schools from the Northeast and are moving away from the Pac 12 and Big 12 games we scheduled over the last 7 to 8 years.
I don't think it's anything official so much as the B12 really needing strong OOC scheduling for SOS and visibility and the SEC West is the most convenient source
(07-18-2018 04:17 PM)10thMountain Wrote: [ -> ]I don't think it's anything official so much as the B12 really needing strong OOC scheduling for SOS and visibility and the SEC West is the most convenient source
It's official in as much as ESPN is encouraging this.
I suppose but also remember that the conference office also decreed that you have to have one P5 opponent OOC. The East teams have the ACC handy while it's mostly the West teams putting B12 squads on the schedule which makes sense
Arkansas has had Texas on the schedule for about a decade. That game has been moved twice already.