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A private school only super conference that would make sense and be strong.
North Division:
Notre Dame
Northwestern
Syracuse
Boston College
Wake Forrest
Duke
Southern Division:
Miami
TCU
SMU
Vandy
Tulane
Rice
Florida and Texas for recruiting as well as midwest, Carolinas, and New England. Notre Dame, Miami, and TCU anchor the football. Some good basketball, Duke, Wake, Syracuse, Notre Dame, Miami, and now TCU. Major media markets, Boston, New York, Chicago, Miami, Charlotte, Nashville, Dallas, Houston, New Orleans.
That might actually be a workable league geographically and capable of competing at top level on the field and for eyeballs.
USC, Stanford, and BYU could upgrade the competition by dropping Rice, Tulane, and say Wake or SMU but geographically it would make little sense and the money would have to be outrageous to make it work.
(07-04-2018 12:30 PM)TU4ever Wrote: [ -> ]Just the land of make believe because I'm bored.
A private school only super conference that would make sense and be strong.
North Division:
Notre Dame
Northwestern
Syracuse
Boston College
Wake Forrest
Duke
Southern Division:
Miami
TCU
SMU
Vandy
Tulane
Rice
Florida and Texas for recruiting as well as midwest, Carolinas, and New England. Notre Dame, Miami, and TCU anchor the football. Some good basketball, Duke, Wake, Syracuse, Notre Dame, Miami, and now TCU. Major media markets, Boston, New York, Chicago, Miami, Charlotte, Nashville, Dallas, Houston, New Orleans.
That might actually be a workable league geographically and capable of competing at top level on the field and for eyeballs.
USC, Stanford, and BYU could upgrade the competition by dropping Rice, Tulane, and say Wake or SMU but geographically it would make little sense and the money would have to be outrageous to make it work.
I'd say go East/West and flip NW and Miami.
(07-04-2018 12:34 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2018 12:30 PM)TU4ever Wrote: [ -> ]Just the land of make believe because I'm bored.
A private school only super conference that would make sense and be strong.
North Division:
Notre Dame
Northwestern
Syracuse
Boston College
Wake Forrest
Duke
Southern Division:
Miami
TCU
SMU
Vandy
Tulane
Rice
Florida and Texas for recruiting as well as midwest, Carolinas, and New England. Notre Dame, Miami, and TCU anchor the football. Some good basketball, Duke, Wake, Syracuse, Notre Dame, Miami, and now TCU. Major media markets, Boston, New York, Chicago, Miami, Charlotte, Nashville, Dallas, Houston, New Orleans.
That might actually be a workable league geographically and capable of competing at top level on the field and for eyeballs.
USC, Stanford, and BYU could upgrade the competition by dropping Rice, Tulane, and say Wake or SMU but geographically it would make little sense and the money would have to be outrageous to make it work.
I'd say go East/West and flip NW and Miami.
Notre Dame will want into Chicago and it would be best to have them separate from Miami to anchor the divisions.
I considered it though. Doing it North South just seems to make sense, the NC pair is really the only teams not traditionally a northern school. The southern schools were all Confederates and it definitely has a southern feel to it.
Not going to lie. I'd have some interest in watching and it probably would have some real positive branding impact on how those schools market themselves as academic institutions. Just don't see the dollars fitting who they want to be athletically, well at least not how most of them want to be athletically.
I would go with a 3 divisions and include all the teams.
East:
BC
Syracuse
Duke
Wake Forrest
Miami
Central:
ND
Northwestern
Vandy
Tulane
SMU / TCU
West:
USC
BYU
Stanford
Rice
TCU / SMU
(07-04-2018 01:53 PM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ]Not going to lie. I'd have some interest in watching and it probably would have some real positive branding impact on how those schools market themselves as academic institutions. Just don't see the dollars fitting who they want to be athletically, well at least not how most of them want to be athletically.
I actually think it would be well received by the public. Im frankly torn when the discussion turns to "who does the AAC turn to as a replacement when the AAC is raided". You could go for performance (LaTech, Boise, S Miss, Marshall, W Kentucky) or you could go for budget size (ODU, ArkSt, JMU, etc).
But the third option is to go for academic prestige and old well known names. Rice, UMass, and Army. Thats not really a bad way to go. Basically, the only football school in the AAC that wouldnt be a top 200 academic institution would be Memphis. A lot worse things could happen to a school than being associated with selective highly respected academic institutions like Rice, SMU, Tulane, Navy, Tulsa, Temple, etc. Wont help much in getting into the CFP--but I doubt any of the other choices will get you there anyway. I have to admit Im attracted to that option on several levels.
An all academic excellence private conference like the OP talks about would be the best possible outcome for a school like Rice.
I would add the 3 service academies.
Boston College
Syracuse
Army
Navy
Notre Dame
Northwestern
Liberty
Duke
Wake Forest
Miami
Vanderbilt
Tulane
Rice
Baylor
SMU
TCU
Tulsa
Air Force
BYU
USC
Stanford
I thought Pitt was private. They get some money from the Commonwealth to knock down the price of tuition, but it's a private governance affair I thought.
The non-MAC, non-BCS privates should have banded together long ago:
Air Force (technically not a private)
Army (ditto)
BYU (non-football)
Liberty
Rice
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
(maybe two more for Olympics)
(07-04-2018 10:21 PM)_C2_ Wrote: [ -> ]The non-MAC, non-BCS privates should have banded together long ago:
Air Force (technically not a private)
Army (ditto)
BYU (non-football)
Liberty
Rice
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
(maybe two more for Olympics)
The MAC hasn't had a private school since Western Reserve left in 1955.
I kinda thought Miami was one, sorry.
(07-05-2018 01:42 AM)_C2_ Wrote: [ -> ]I kinda thought Miami was one, sorry.
Wrong Miami.
(07-04-2018 10:21 PM)_C2_ Wrote: [ -> ]The non-MAC, non-BCS privates should have banded together long ago:
Air Force (technically not a private)
Army (ditto)
BYU (non-football)
Liberty
Rice
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
(maybe two more for Olympics)
I'm 99.999% certain that the rest of that group would not invite Liberty.
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(07-05-2018 08:20 AM)loki_the_bubba Wrote: [ -> ] (07-04-2018 10:21 PM)_C2_ Wrote: [ -> ]The non-MAC, non-BCS privates should have banded together long ago:
Air Force (technically not a private)
Army (ditto)
BYU (non-football)
Liberty
Rice
SMU
Tulane
Tulsa
(maybe two more for Olympics)
I'm 99.999% certain that the rest of that group would not invite Liberty.
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Probably should have been Navy there instead of Liberty.
If there ever were a group of FBS schools that might consider Liberty it would be that one. But I get what you are stating, loki.
(07-04-2018 07:18 PM)TU72N76 Wrote: [ -> ]I would add the 3 service academies.
Boston College
Syracuse
Army
Navy
Notre Dame
Northwestern
Liberty
Duke
Wake Forest
Miami
Vanderbilt
Tulane
Rice
Baylor
SMU
TCU
Tulsa
Air Force
BYU
USC
Stanford
Too many school. Pair it down to just eastern school and make it more geographically compact.
Army - Football Only
Boston College
Duke
Georgetown - non-football
Miami
Navy - Football Only
Northwestern
Notre Dame
Syracuse
Vanderbilt
Villanova - non-football
Wake Forest
Who exactly is in your Charlotte TV market? Neither Wake nor Duke are.
Except Duke basketball, those two almost aren't in their own market.
As long as you are dreaming, this is a conference of private schools that probably makes as much sense as any, and would be stronger than any football conference except probably the SEC. It would also be a kick-ass academic league (not that that matters).
TCU
Stanford
Southern Cal
Notre Dame
Miami
Northwestern
Duke
BYU
Vanderbilt
The ideal situation would be for this to be a football only conference, with every school free to join another conference for other sports.
My dream Catholic Conference:
Boston College
Creighton
DePaul
Dayton
Georgetown
Loyola (Chicago)
Marquette
Notre Dame
Providence
Saint Louis
Seton Hall
St. Johns
Villanova
Xavier