(05-14-2018 11:49 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2018 08:15 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]White House Deputy Press Secretary Raj Shah said at the daily WH press briefing today that the 'Death of more than 60 Palestinians at Israeli hands is "a propaganda attempt” by Hamas and Palestinians.'
Sometimes it's better to not say anything at all when asked the tough questions.
Even if accurate?
Absolutely. Especially when that's your job and you should know better. You say next question and move on. Pompeo was asked a similar question and he didn't answer it.
(05-14-2018 04:25 PM)green Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2018 03:43 PM)Jugnaut Wrote: [ -> ]I haven't walked a mile in the Israelis shoes so I won't judge them.
OF TWO MINDS
I personally don't believe peace is possible there. You have two groups that adamantly claim the same piece of land. Neither is willing to give up that land which is scarce and therefore extremely valuable. Additionally, the land has significance ancestral value. Finally, one side even refuses to acknowledge the other sides' right to exist. This state of affairs will exist until one side is forced off the land permanently.
(05-14-2018 02:32 PM)green Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2018 02:22 PM)WKUYG Wrote: [ -> ]Why is this so important to you and not the below? Why is it that it hits something deep inside of you that made you post a thread and not the below?
as a jew ...
this unholy subjugation by brute force must end ...
APARTHEID
Must end in what?
Are you okay with the complete destruction of the Jewish state and annihilation of the Israeli Jews in a second holocaust? Because that is the Palestinian goal.
How exactly do you go about making peace with someone else whose openly stated goal is your elimination?
(05-14-2018 04:11 PM)olliebaba Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, but I don't remember the Viet Cong shouting to the sky, "death to America". Totally different scenarios.
If you really think giving in to every conceivable demand by the Islamist will guarantee a peace you are the typical not informed Liberal. Even the Bible states that there will be a peace but it will last only 3 and a half years before the real war begins. You can't trust those Islamists. No, you can't.
(05-15-2018 06:13 AM)Jugnaut Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2018 04:25 PM)green Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2018 03:43 PM)Jugnaut Wrote: [ -> ]I haven't walked a mile in the Israelis shoes so I won't judge them.
OF TWO MINDS
I personally don't believe peace is possible there. You have two groups that adamantly claim the same piece of land. Neither is willing to give up that land which is scarce and therefore extremely valuable. Additionally, the land has significance ancestral value. Finally, one side even refuses to acknowledge the other sides' right to exist. This state of affairs will exist until one side is forced off the land permanently.
If the Palestinians had a Ghandi instead of an Arafat they would have already had a state. The Jews are empathetic with the oppressed.
The best way for peace is to convince the Palestinians there is no better deal. By ignoring the 1967 UN agreement and avoiding Jerusalem and continuing the anti-Semitic rants, the Europeans are giving the Palestinians hope. The western world needs to be united against the idea that Israel and the Jews can be exterminated.
(05-15-2018 06:38 AM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2018 04:11 PM)olliebaba Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, but I don't remember the Viet Cong shouting to the sky, "death to America". Totally different scenarios.
If you really think giving in to every conceivable demand by the Islamist will guarantee a peace you are the typical not informed Liberal. Even the Bible states that there will be a peace but it will last only 3 and a half years before the real war begins. You can't trust those Islamists. No, you can't.
(05-15-2018 06:13 AM)Jugnaut Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2018 04:25 PM)green Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2018 03:43 PM)Jugnaut Wrote: [ -> ]I haven't walked a mile in the Israelis shoes so I won't judge them.
OF TWO MINDS
I personally don't believe peace is possible there. You have two groups that adamantly claim the same piece of land. Neither is willing to give up that land which is scarce and therefore extremely valuable. Additionally, the land has significance ancestral value. Finally, one side even refuses to acknowledge the other sides' right to exist. This state of affairs will exist until one side is forced off the land permanently.
If the Palestinians had a Ghandi instead of an Arafat they would have already had a state. The Jews are empathetic with the oppressed.
The best way for peace is to convince the Palestinians there is no better deal. By ignoring the 1967 UN agreement and avoiding Jerusalem and continuing the anti-Semitic rants, the Europeans are giving the Palestinians hope. The western world needs to be united against the idea that Israel and the Jews can be exterminated.
+3 for that. Shabbat Shalom.
(05-14-2018 10:23 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ]The minute we left they, the communist, overran the south and started to kill far more people than died today... I'm sure you were just as upset at them...
and if you had your druthers ...
we'd still be there ...
DO-GOODER
With just a few more tweets I am sure I will be convinced.
(05-15-2018 10:33 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote: [ -> ]With just a few more tweets I am sure I will be convinced.
And yet I STILL can't figure out how to embed tweets here, lol....
(05-14-2018 10:23 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not saying the shooting was/was not justified... I am saying it's a hell of a lot more complicated than you seem to think it is.
SHOOT FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER
(05-15-2018 10:41 AM)green Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2018 10:23 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not saying the shooting was/was not justified... I am saying it's a hell of a lot more complicated than you seem to think it is.
SHOOT FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER
a few seconds of a video will definitely change my mind...
(05-15-2018 10:45 AM)UTSAMarineVet09 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-15-2018 10:41 AM)green Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2018 10:23 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not saying the shooting was/was not justified... I am saying it's a hell of a lot more complicated than you seem to think it is.
SHOOT FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER
a few seconds of a video will definitely change my mind...
A full video with play by play analysis wouldn't change your mind.
I’m betting Green is a Russian troll. Somebody get in touch with Mueller.
The America hate in this one is strong.
(05-14-2018 10:20 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2018 02:32 PM)green Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2018 02:22 PM)WKUYG Wrote: [ -> ]Why is this so important to you and not the below? Why is it that it hits something deep inside of you that made you post a thread and not the below?
as a jew ...
this unholy subjugation by brute force must end ...
APARTHEID
Does Israel have the right to exist and protect their borders?
does palestine have a right to exist free of occupation ...
NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
(05-15-2018 11:00 AM)green Wrote: [ -> ]NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
That's because the Palestinian terrorists kill the old men.
(05-15-2018 10:56 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote: [ -> ]I’m betting Green is a Russian troll. Somebody get in touch with Mueller.
The America hate in this one is strong.
MY COUNTRY RIGHT OR WRONG
(05-15-2018 11:00 AM)green Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2018 10:20 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2018 02:32 PM)green Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2018 02:22 PM)WKUYG Wrote: [ -> ]Why is this so important to you and not the below? Why is it that it hits something deep inside of you that made you post a thread and not the below?
as a jew ...
this unholy subjugation by brute force must end ...
APARTHEID
Does Israel have the right to exist and protect their borders?
does palestine have a right to exist free of occupation ...
NO COUNTRY FOR OLD MEN
I would say yes to your question. But how do two countries, both with the right to exist, exist on the same parcel of land?
(05-15-2018 06:25 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2018 02:32 PM)green Wrote: [ -> ] (05-14-2018 02:22 PM)WKUYG Wrote: [ -> ]Why is this so important to you and not the below? Why is it that it hits something deep inside of you that made you post a thread and not the below?
as a jew ...
this unholy subjugation by brute force must end ...
APARTHEID
Must end in what?
Are you okay with the complete destruction of the Jewish state and annihilation of the Israeli Jews in a second holocaust? Because that is the Palestinian goal.
How exactly do you go about making peace with someone else whose openly stated goal is your elimination?
how did south africa end apartheid ...
ONE FINE DAY