So Mossad agents found out and somehow got access to Iran’s heavily guarded (presumably) top secret nuclear plans, loaded them up on a truck, drove to Azerbaijan with the help of Iranian smugglers, and flew them to Israel. Netanyahu then proceeded to show those documents on national TV, with a Persian love song playing in the background. Iran had always intended to build nuclear weapons even when Obama said it was a good deal. Israel then pounded the Iranian presence in Hama and Aleppo, Syria into oblivion. But Iranian spokesmen unbelievably claim there was no Iranian casualties. Trump will stop the Iran nuclear deal. Europe will have to choose between Iran or the USA to trade with.
Anyone that believes the Iranians are not seeking nuclear capability is a fool. We knew from the beginning that this was probably not going to last and was a bad deal. I hope this information makes our allies balk on this now and bring heavy sanctions back on Iran. They simply can not be trusted.
(05-05-2018 08:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone that believes the Iranians are not seeking nuclear capability is a fool. We knew from the beginning that this was probably not going to last and was a bad deal. I hope this information makes our allies balk on this now and bring heavy sanctions back on Iran. They simply can not be trusted.
I think we are past the point of sanctions solving anything here.
Not that I'm against new sanctions, but I suspect military action by Israel on their nuclear facilities is the only viable solution.
I also suspect that is what Israel is prepping for both militarily and politically as we speak. Hence their recent political "media" blitz against Iran.
(05-05-2018 08:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone that believes the Iranians are not seeking nuclear capability is a fool. We knew from the beginning that this was probably not going to last and was a bad deal. I hope this information makes our allies balk on this now and bring heavy sanctions back on Iran. They simply can not be trusted.
I think we are past the point of sanctions solving anything here.
Not that I'm against new sanctions, but I suspect military action by Israel on their nuclear facilities is the only viable solution.
I also suspect that is what Israel is prepping for both militarily and politically as we speak. Hence their recent political "media" blitz against Iran.
You’re possibly right BUT, the Iranian government is the same totalitarian type state as NoKo with the only differences being there is more than one leading despot and the people are mostly educated and don’t like the leadership. Tuff sanctions with the cooperation of Europe could indeed bring down the mullahs rule.
(05-05-2018 09:26 AM)Lush Wrote: [ -> ]would another overthrown regime be welcomed news in today's middle east?
I think a large segment of Iranians would welcome the end of the religious power in their country. Iran is still a very western society. It has just been smothered by the Mullahs. I just hope that the change comes from within.
(05-05-2018 09:26 AM)Lush Wrote: [ -> ]would another overthrown regime be welcomed news in today's middle east?
Iranian citizens protest daily, for months. Thousands get arrested. Their economy is a dumpster.
i'm just saying that they're the most stable and safe (comparatively speaking) state in the middle east. a far from perfect state but we see what happens when power vacuums
wikipedia says that they have a rather robust economy, for middle eastern standards. not giving it a resounding endorsement, just sayin'
you people and your perfect world. man has forever been the verge of world war three
i'd still really like to visit iran. i have a little more faith in iran than anyone probably should. i don't condone their behavior but like i said, it could be worse
(05-05-2018 09:26 AM)Lush Wrote: [ -> ]would another overthrown regime be welcomed news in today's middle east?
Iranian citizens protest daily, for months. Thousands get arrested. Their economy is a dumpster.
i'm just saying that they're the most stable and safe (comparatively speaking) state in the middle east. a far from perfect state but we see what happens when power vacuums
wikipedia says that they have a rather robust economy, for middle eastern standards. not giving it a resounding endorsement, just sayin'
you people and your perfect world. man has forever been the verge of world war three
i'd still really like to visit iran. i have a little more faith in iran than anyone probably should. i don't condone their behavior but like i said, it could be worse
(05-05-2018 09:26 AM)Lush Wrote: [ -> ]would another overthrown regime be welcomed news in today's middle east?
Iranian citizens protest daily, for months. Thousands get arrested. Their economy is a dumpster.
i'm just saying that they're the most stable and safe (comparatively speaking) state in the middle east. a far from perfect state but we see what happens when power vacuums
wikipedia says that they have a rather robust economy, for middle eastern standards. not giving it a resounding endorsement, just sayin'
you people and your perfect world. man has forever been the verge of world war three
i'd still really like to visit iran. i have a little more faith in iran than anyone probably should. i don't condone their behavior but like i said, it could be worse
(05-05-2018 09:26 AM)Lush Wrote: [ -> ]would another overthrown regime be welcomed news in today's middle east?
Iranian citizens protest daily, for months. Thousands get arrested. Their economy is a dumpster.
i'm just saying that they're the most stable and safe (comparatively speaking) state in the middle east. a far from perfect state but we see what happens when power vacuums
wikipedia says that they have a rather robust economy, for middle eastern standards. not giving it a resounding endorsement, just sayin'
you people and your perfect world. man has forever been the verge of world war three
i'd still really like to visit iran. i have a little more faith in iran than anyone probably should. i don't condone their behavior but like i said, it could be worse
(05-05-2018 08:27 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]Anyone that believes the Iranians are not seeking nuclear capability is a fool. We knew from the beginning that this was probably not going to last and was a bad deal. I hope this information makes our allies balk on this now and bring heavy sanctions back on Iran. They simply can not be trusted.
I think we are past the point of sanctions solving anything here.
Not that I'm against new sanctions, but I suspect military action by Israel on their nuclear facilities is the only viable solution.
I also suspect that is what Israel is prepping for both militarily and politically as we speak. Hence their recent political "media" blitz against Iran.
I think North Korea is providing Iran with their nuclear technology and has been told Israel is close to acting and we will take care of North Korea at the same time. North Korea knows we are serious this time and looking for away out.
(05-05-2018 09:26 AM)Lush Wrote: [ -> ]would another overthrown regime be welcomed news in today's middle east?
We're not very good at picking the right side when we are a part of regime change.
Anyone that thought Iran would play by the rules and have a good faith diplomatic solution is kidding themselves.
i didn't mean to infer our involvement. i was thinking more of an arab spring thing, which i'm sure would be clandestinely financed. a failed grass roots revolution would probably force the government to double down on dissent. obviously a regime change is needed, i just don't see how iran becomes any safer than it already is. it's middle east safe
(05-05-2018 09:26 AM)Lush Wrote: [ -> ]would another overthrown regime be welcomed news in today's middle east?
We're not very good at picking the right side when we are a part of regime change.
Anyone that thought Iran would play by the rules and have a good faith diplomatic solution is kidding themselves.
i didn't mean to infer our involvement. i was thinking more of an arab spring thing, which i'm sure would be clandestinely financed. a failed grass roots revolution would probably force the government to double down on dissent. obviously a regime change is needed, i just don't see how iran becomes any safer than it already is. it's middle east safe
it is possible for me to enjoy a country without the rejuvenating effects of drugs and alcohol. hard as that may be to believe