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My favorite march madness story. Unbelievable fan. Second to none.

Nice story. Good for Sr. Jean and Loyola.

(03-15-2018 05:50 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: [ -> ]My favorite march madness story. Unbelievable fan. Second to none.

Great story. I hope they destroy Tennessee

(03-15-2018 05:56 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-15-2018 05:50 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: [ -> ]My favorite march madness story. Unbelievable fan. Second to none.

Great story. I hope they destroy Tennessee

While Loyola is on a really hot streak of 18 of 19, Tennessee might be a bit too much for them. They looked really sharp today (but its possible that Wright State was overseeded).

Sister Jean’s Sweet Sixteen Cinderella Magic

(03-15-2018 05:59 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-15-2018 05:56 PM)billybobby777 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-15-2018 05:50 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote: [ -> ]My favorite march madness story. Unbelievable fan. Second to none.

Great story. I hope they destroy Tennessee

While Loyola is on a really hot streak of 18 of 19, Tennessee might be a bit too much for them. They looked really sharp today (but its possible that Wright State was overseeded).

Nah

The team that replaced Creighton in the Valley happens to have more Sweet 16 appearances than the Jays, and two of which more recent than the last time Creighton saw a Sweet 16.

Loyola is actually an example where the university president expansion metrics of media markets and academics paid off. I recall a lot of MVC fans complaining about the Loyola addition when it occurred and wanting schools purely for on-the-court performance exhibited up to that date (e.g. Murray State). Many also complained about the Chicago-oriented focus of MVC expansion (where they of course don't realize that several of the MVC schools are largely dependent upon Chicago-area students matriculating for their enrollment survival). Now, a school like Loyola when it has a run like this year in the Chicago market is waaaaaaaaay more valuable to the MVC than any other addition that it could have reasonably made. Frankly, the thing that the MVC will now have to worry about down the road is Loyola becoming an A-10 expansion target in the event that any A-10 schools end up in the Big East.

(03-19-2018 03:20 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: [ -> ]Loyola is actually an example where the university president expansion metrics of media markets and academics paid off. I recall a lot of MVC fans complaining about the Loyola addition when it occurred and wanting schools purely for on-the-court performance exhibited up to that date (e.g. Murray State). Many also complained about the Chicago-oriented focus of MVC expansion (where they of course don't realize that several of the MVC schools are largely dependent upon Chicago-area students matriculating for their enrollment survival). Now, a school like Loyola when it has a run like this year in the Chicago market is waaaaaaaaay more valuable to the MVC than any other addition that it could have reasonably made. Frankly, the thing that the MVC will now have to worry about down the road is Loyola becoming an A-10 expansion target in the event that any A-10 schools end up in the Big East.

the problem with that is if the expansion is Dayton and Saint Louis- the next closest A10 team to Chicago would be.... Duquesne. Next closest- St Bonaventure. In other words, don't think so.

(03-19-2018 03:20 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: [ -> ]Loyola is actually an example where the university president expansion metrics of media markets and academics paid off. I recall a lot of MVC fans complaining about the Loyola addition when it occurred and wanting schools purely for on-the-court performance exhibited up to that date (e.g. Murray State). Many also complained about the Chicago-oriented focus of MVC expansion (where they of course don't realize that several of the MVC schools are largely dependent upon Chicago-area students matriculating for their enrollment survival). Now, a school like Loyola when it has a run like this year in the Chicago market is waaaaaaaaay more valuable to the MVC than any other addition that it could have reasonably made. Frankly, the thing that the MVC will now have to worry about down the road is Loyola becoming an A-10 expansion target in the event that any A-10 schools end up in the Big East.

Yup - still have Valley friends that this year were complaining about Loyola - waiting to see how far Loyola goes to ask them if they still think they were a bad add.

(03-19-2018 03:20 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: [ -> ]Loyola is actually an example where the university president expansion metrics of media markets and academics paid off. I recall a lot of MVC fans complaining about the Loyola addition when it occurred and wanting schools purely for on-the-court performance exhibited up to that date (e.g. Murray State). Many also complained about the Chicago-oriented focus of MVC expansion (where they of course don't realize that several of the MVC schools are largely dependent upon Chicago-area students matriculating for their enrollment survival). Now, a school like Loyola when it has a run like this year in the Chicago market is waaaaaaaaay more valuable to the MVC than any other addition that it could have reasonably made. Frankly, the thing that the MVC will now have to worry about down the road is Loyola becoming an A-10 expansion target in the event that any A-10 schools end up in the Big East.

Everyone I’ve talked to at Loyola always says barring a revival of the old MCC the MVC was always their dream league. Virtually no shot they’d leave MVC for an A10 without SLU or Dayton.

I am so happy for Loyola. I hope that the program can utilize this run to really push themselves to be at the top of the MVC for years to come. They have been a remarkable story for the city.

Gotta love the Jesuit hoops schools!

(03-19-2018 03:39 PM)dbackjon Wrote: [ -> ]Yup - still have Valley friends that this year were complaining about Loyola - waiting to see how far Loyola goes to ask them if they still think they were a bad add.

If it's 33 years until the Ramblers see another NCAA tournament, though...?

Maybe this a new Belmont in the making, and we'll see L-C contesting for the top of the Valley every year. I don't think the critics of the pick are wrong, though, until that happens. But, otoh, yeah, the Valley needed to be physically in Chicago. It also needed to show a program from the conference could still succeed and endure the tournament, and not be named Creighton or Wichita State.

Critics should be more pissed about Valpo, but, that's a different subject.

(03-19-2018 03:26 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-19-2018 03:20 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: [ -> ]Loyola is actually an example where the university president expansion metrics of media markets and academics paid off. I recall a lot of MVC fans complaining about the Loyola addition when it occurred and wanting schools purely for on-the-court performance exhibited up to that date (e.g. Murray State). Many also complained about the Chicago-oriented focus of MVC expansion (where they of course don't realize that several of the MVC schools are largely dependent upon Chicago-area students matriculating for their enrollment survival). Now, a school like Loyola when it has a run like this year in the Chicago market is waaaaaaaaay more valuable to the MVC than any other addition that it could have reasonably made. Frankly, the thing that the MVC will now have to worry about down the road is Loyola becoming an A-10 expansion target in the event that any A-10 schools end up in the Big East.

the problem with that is if the expansion is Dayton and Saint Louis- the next closest A10 team to Chicago would be.... Duquesne. Next closest- St Bonaventure. In other words, don't think so.

We're not talking about some small market outpost, though. This would be adding #3 media market Chicago with easy air connections everywhere and its importance is even greater for basketball recruiting. (Chicago is to basketball recruiting as Texas is to football recruiting.) Plus, if only one of either Dayton or SLU leave the A-10 for the Big East down the road (which is more likely to me than seeing both of them leaving), then Loyola fits in just fine from a geographic perspective.

(03-19-2018 03:26 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-19-2018 03:20 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: [ -> ]Loyola is actually an example where the university president expansion metrics of media markets and academics paid off. I recall a lot of MVC fans complaining about the Loyola addition when it occurred and wanting schools purely for on-the-court performance exhibited up to that date (e.g. Murray State). Many also complained about the Chicago-oriented focus of MVC expansion (where they of course don't realize that several of the MVC schools are largely dependent upon Chicago-area students matriculating for their enrollment survival). Now, a school like Loyola when it has a run like this year in the Chicago market is waaaaaaaaay more valuable to the MVC than any other addition that it could have reasonably made. Frankly, the thing that the MVC will now have to worry about down the road is Loyola becoming an A-10 expansion target in the event that any A-10 schools end up in the Big East.

the problem with that is if the expansion is Dayton and Saint Louis- the next closest A10 team to Chicago would be.... Duquesne. Next closest- St Bonaventure. In other words, don't think so.

Disagree...Chicago is an easy city to get too.

(03-20-2018 02:30 PM)TexanMark Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-19-2018 03:26 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-19-2018 03:20 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: [ -> ]Loyola is actually an example where the university president expansion metrics of media markets and academics paid off. I recall a lot of MVC fans complaining about the Loyola addition when it occurred and wanting schools purely for on-the-court performance exhibited up to that date (e.g. Murray State). Many also complained about the Chicago-oriented focus of MVC expansion (where they of course don't realize that several of the MVC schools are largely dependent upon Chicago-area students matriculating for their enrollment survival). Now, a school like Loyola when it has a run like this year in the Chicago market is waaaaaaaaay more valuable to the MVC than any other addition that it could have reasonably made. Frankly, the thing that the MVC will now have to worry about down the road is Loyola becoming an A-10 expansion target in the event that any A-10 schools end up in the Big East.

the problem with that is if the expansion is Dayton and Saint Louis- the next closest A10 team to Chicago would be.... Duquesne. Next closest- St Bonaventure. In other words, don't think so.

Disagree...Chicago is an easy city to get too.

It might be an easy city to get to, but 2 big things...
1- Loyola wouldn't want to be on an island like that.
2- there would be absolutely no difference between the A10 and MVC at that point. None.

(03-20-2018 03:44 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-20-2018 02:30 PM)TexanMark Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-19-2018 03:26 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-19-2018 03:20 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: [ -> ]Loyola is actually an example where the university president expansion metrics of media markets and academics paid off. I recall a lot of MVC fans complaining about the Loyola addition when it occurred and wanting schools purely for on-the-court performance exhibited up to that date (e.g. Murray State). Many also complained about the Chicago-oriented focus of MVC expansion (where they of course don't realize that several of the MVC schools are largely dependent upon Chicago-area students matriculating for their enrollment survival). Now, a school like Loyola when it has a run like this year in the Chicago market is waaaaaaaaay more valuable to the MVC than any other addition that it could have reasonably made. Frankly, the thing that the MVC will now have to worry about down the road is Loyola becoming an A-10 expansion target in the event that any A-10 schools end up in the Big East.

the problem with that is if the expansion is Dayton and Saint Louis- the next closest A10 team to Chicago would be.... Duquesne. Next closest- St Bonaventure. In other words, don't think so.

Disagree...Chicago is an easy city to get too.

It might be an easy city to get to, but 2 big things...
1- Loyola wouldn't want to be on an island like that.
2- there would be absolutely no difference between the A10 and MVC at that point. None.

I disagree. Loyola would absolutely want to be in a perceived stronger basketball conference like the A-10. The A-10 still averages more annual bids that the MVC (which only gets one in per year). Let's say that SLU gets the call-up - the A-10 would still have Dayton, VCU, Rhode Island, St. Bonaventure and Davidson near the top (all of whom have made the tournament in recent years. The exposure will be greater. The money will be better.

(03-20-2018 04:18 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-20-2018 03:44 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-20-2018 02:30 PM)TexanMark Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-19-2018 03:26 PM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]

(03-19-2018 03:20 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote: [ -> ]Loyola is actually an example where the university president expansion metrics of media markets and academics paid off. I recall a lot of MVC fans complaining about the Loyola addition when it occurred and wanting schools purely for on-the-court performance exhibited up to that date (e.g. Murray State). Many also complained about the Chicago-oriented focus of MVC expansion (where they of course don't realize that several of the MVC schools are largely dependent upon Chicago-area students matriculating for their enrollment survival). Now, a school like Loyola when it has a run like this year in the Chicago market is waaaaaaaaay more valuable to the MVC than any other addition that it could have reasonably made. Frankly, the thing that the MVC will now have to worry about down the road is Loyola becoming an A-10 expansion target in the event that any A-10 schools end up in the Big East.

the problem with that is if the expansion is Dayton and Saint Louis- the next closest A10 team to Chicago would be.... Duquesne. Next closest- St Bonaventure. In other words, don't think so.

Disagree...Chicago is an easy city to get too.

It might be an easy city to get to, but 2 big things...
1- Loyola wouldn't want to be on an island like that.
2- there would be absolutely no difference between the A10 and MVC at that point. None.

I disagree. Loyola would absolutely want to be in a perceived stronger basketball conference like the A-10. The A-10 still averages more annual bids that the MVC (which only gets one in per year). Let's say that SLU gets the call-up - the A-10 would still have Dayton, VCU, Rhode Island, St. Bonaventure and Davidson near the top (all of whom have made the tournament in recent years. The exposure will be greater. The money will be better.

If Dayton is still around, then maybe. But if Dayton is gone as well as SLU- I just do not see it. The A-10 still has a lot of things to prove- they were extremely close to being a 1 bid conference this year.

Know it wouldn’t happen, but why couldn't Loyola replace DePaul’s decripid performance in the Big East? Loyola has a bigger endowment, is a Jesuit institution unlike DePaul, and only is somewhat smaller in enrollment.

Loyola could have been picked for a Chicago presence if it had its basketball act together in the first place.