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The University unveiled the red wolf head logo 10 years ago today and without a doubt I feel has been not only one of the biggest, but best changes the university ever made

For giggles, here are some of the other names that at one point in time during the mascot change process had been tossed around...

Gorillas, Fighting Farmers, Woodpeckers, Mosquitos, Diamonds, Hellbenders, Express, Engines, Mallards, Dragons, Scarlet Fever, Scarlet A's, Tornados, Ridge Runners, Ridge Raiders, Rice Birds, Aggies, Dragons, Crop Dusters and of course (Black/Scarlet/Red) Wolves

(I'm sure there are WAY more I'm forgetting)
I prefer Arkansas State Indians.
Happy birthday Red Wolves! I think it's a good one. (Mallards would have been cool, too.)
(03-13-2018 11:22 AM)TroyFootball05 Wrote: [ -> ]I prefer Arkansas State Indians.

The Indian mascot was dying. We had to make the change. We've got a few fan holdovers who hate everything not Indians, but most have realized now that Red Wolves was the right decision.
Can't believe you didn't go with the Crop Dusters.
I am glad App State does not have a mascot that others would consider offensive. I would not want to go through that, but I like Red Wolves and the whole Indian mascot thing needs to go for all schools unless that have some special relationship to Amerindian groups and everyone is on board. UNC-P in DII are the Braves for example.

Good call on Red Wolves!
(03-13-2018 11:13 AM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote: [ -> ]The University unveiled the red wolf head logo 10 years ago today and without a doubt I feel has been not only one of the biggest, but best changes the university ever made

For giggles, here are some of the other names that at one point in time during the mascot change process had been tossed around...

Gorillas, Fighting Farmers, Woodpeckers, Mosquitos, Diamonds, Hellbenders, Express, Engines, Mallards, Dragons, Scarlet Fever, Scarlet A's, Tornados, Ridge Runners, Ridge Raiders, Rice Birds, Aggies, Dragons, Crop Dusters and of course (Black/Scarlet/Red) Wolves

(I'm sure there are WAY more I'm forgetting)

ULM changed theirs in 2005 for the same reasons as stAte. How did you get to hang onto the Indians moniker for three more years? I had thought both schools changed at more-or-less the same time.
(03-13-2018 12:40 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote: [ -> ]I am glad App State does not have a mascot that others would consider offensive. I would not want to go through that, but I like Red Wolves and the whole Indian mascot thing needs to go for all schools unless that have some special relationship to Amerindian groups and everyone is on board. UNC-P in DII are the Braves for example.

Good call on Red Wolves!

If you don't think Mountaineer will ever be deemed 'offensive' at some point... you just wait.
Just curious but how many actual Indians were offended?
I'm offended by everyone getting offended
Hellbenders would've actually been really cool
(03-13-2018 12:44 PM)SOT1977 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-13-2018 11:13 AM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote: [ -> ]The University unveiled the red wolf head logo 10 years ago today and without a doubt I feel has been not only one of the biggest, but best changes the university ever made

For giggles, here are some of the other names that at one point in time during the mascot change process had been tossed around...

Gorillas, Fighting Farmers, Woodpeckers, Mosquitos, Diamonds, Hellbenders, Express, Engines, Mallards, Dragons, Scarlet Fever, Scarlet A's, Tornados, Ridge Runners, Ridge Raiders, Rice Birds, Aggies, Dragons, Crop Dusters and of course (Black/Scarlet/Red) Wolves

(I'm sure there are WAY more I'm forgetting)


ULM changed theirs in 2005 for the same reasons as stAte. How did you get to hang onto the Indians moniker for three more years? I had thought both schools changed at more-or-less the same time.

The university was very slow and deliberate with the change (not to mention quite a bit of vocal outcry from fans regarding the notion of a change) and from my understanding, there were efforts to find the support/backing from a specific tribe (Osage, Quapaw, Cherokee Caddo, etc) but it never came.
The unfortunate thing is about 5 years or so before the change there was a proposal to add a wolf mascot but stay Indians to address the fact we couldn't do much of anything with an Indian mascot that someone wouldn't offended by.

The Indian Club board voted it down but it would have made the transition even smoother (and it was pretty smooth).
Since the wolf mascot was voted down we got the infamous "Red".
Oh red...still one of the more bizarre creations in athletic branding history...

https://youtu.be/QEPIN3l0tug
At the time I was pulling for Engines. I thought it was an amazing play on words but now I’m glad it didn’t make it. No point in creating controversy for the sake of controversy. Red Wolves was and is the best choice.
(03-13-2018 01:26 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-13-2018 12:40 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote: [ -> ]I am glad App State does not have a mascot that others would consider offensive. I would not want to go through that, but I like Red Wolves and the whole Indian mascot thing needs to go for all schools unless that have some special relationship to Amerindian groups and everyone is on board. UNC-P in DII are the Braves for example.

Good call on Red Wolves!

If you don't think Mountaineer will ever be deemed 'offensive' at some point... you just wait.

I hear it's pretty offensive in Statesboro.
(03-13-2018 12:40 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote: [ -> ]I am glad App State does not have a mascot that others would consider offensive. I would not want to go through that, but I like Red Wolves and the whole Indian mascot thing needs to go for all schools unless that have some special relationship to Amerindian groups and everyone is on board. UNC-P in DII are the Braves for example.

Good call on Red Wolves!

As an Appalachian American, I find the depiction offensive. Also, the name Yosef is not uncommon in Hasidic Judaism, nor are beards. I absolutely am not serious that I'm offended by any of it, but don't ever be surprised that someone finds something asinine or innocent as offensive.
(03-13-2018 01:51 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-13-2018 12:44 PM)SOT1977 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-13-2018 11:13 AM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote: [ -> ]The University unveiled the red wolf head logo 10 years ago today and without a doubt I feel has been not only one of the biggest, but best changes the university ever made

For giggles, here are some of the other names that at one point in time during the mascot change process had been tossed around...

Gorillas, Fighting Farmers, Woodpeckers, Mosquitos, Diamonds, Hellbenders, Express, Engines, Mallards, Dragons, Scarlet Fever, Scarlet A's, Tornados, Ridge Runners, Ridge Raiders, Rice Birds, Aggies, Dragons, Crop Dusters and of course (Black/Scarlet/Red) Wolves

(I'm sure there are WAY more I'm forgetting)


ULM changed theirs in 2005 for the same reasons as stAte. How did you get to hang onto the Indians moniker for three more years? I had thought both schools changed at more-or-less the same time.

The university was very slow and deliberate with the change (not to mention quite a bit of vocal outcry from fans regarding the notion of a change) and from my understanding, there were efforts to find the support/backing from a specific tribe (Osage, Quapaw, Cherokee Caddo, etc) but it never came.
I think our Native American imagery was based on the Quapaw, correct? I dont know if its true, but I remember hearing we reached out to the that tribe for endorsement.
They came back with an astronomical amount. We said, nah, we'll just change. 03-lmfao

Best forced decision ever.
(03-13-2018 02:54 PM)troutbummike Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-13-2018 12:40 PM)McLeansvilleAppFan Wrote: [ -> ]I am glad App State does not have a mascot that others would consider offensive. I would not want to go through that, but I like Red Wolves and the whole Indian mascot thing needs to go for all schools unless that have some special relationship to Amerindian groups and everyone is on board. UNC-P in DII are the Braves for example.

Good call on Red Wolves!

As an Appalachian American, I find the depiction offensive. Also, the name Yosef is not uncommon in Hasidic Judaism, nor are beards. I absolutely am not serious that I'm offended by any of it, but don't ever be surprised that someone finds something asinine or innocent as offensive.

That old man winter logo yall had was offensive to fish boat captains everywhere. Glad yall changed.
I could seriously see App dropping the pipe from Yosef's mouth. No tobacco use endorsement etc..
(03-13-2018 01:45 PM)CheckYosef94 Wrote: [ -> ]Hellbenders would've actually been really cool

Name is awesome.


Real animal that it's based off of...not so much..
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