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Quote:Many red-state Americans who used to love awards shows on TV are now wary of celebrities who cannot help but use this platform to spew their hatred of President Trump and the evil/stupid conservatives who keep Hollywood liberals from running (ruining) America.

Take the Golden Globe Awards in January, which included a windy nine-minute Oprah Winfrey lecture about how we need the media elites more than ever, and celebrities dressed in black, donning "Time's Up" pins to say sexual harassment is over. Ratings dipped 5 percent and 11 percent in the key demographic for advertisers, a six-year low.

Hollywood may finally be getting the message that TV ratings are suffering because the public has grown weary of people turning live events into leftist political rallies.

The New York Times reported the Oscars people are worried. "Whenever stars use the platform to support progressive causes and make political statements, large numbers of viewers turn the channel, according to academy insiders, who cite minute-by-minute Nielsen data for past shows."

Channing Dungey, president of ABC Entertainment, said during their Oscars telecast, the campaign against sexual harassment should be limited to a prescheduled "moment," so viewers don't feel it "overshadows the artists and the films being honored."

If the Academy Awards people wanted to recall how Hollywood has behaved, they would take a "moment" to replay the standing ovation for child-raping director Roman Polanski when he won best director in 2003. The audience could see Meryl Streep standing and applauding, and then there's director Martin Scorsese doing the same, being a good sport about losing to Polanski, and standing up and clapping behind him is ... Harvey Weinstein.

That's a good clip of Hollywood's history on opposing sexual assault.

This year's Oscars host, ABC late-night comedian Jimmy Kimmel, was more blunt on "Good Morning America," saying, "This show is not about reliving people's sexual assaults. It's an awards show for people who have been dreaming about maybe winning an Oscar for their whole lives. And the last thing I want to do is ruin that for someone ... by making it unpleasant."

But will Kimmel lash out at Republicans? When "Good Morning America" asked if he's been too political recently and "pushed the envelope too far," he shot back "Not at all. I don't think you can go too far." So when it came to sexual assault, Kimmel said, "I'm not going to stop any bad behavior with my jokes." But "making it unpleasant" for people who couldn't vote for Hillary Clinton is apparently a patriotic duty.

Awards shows have been unable to avoid political moments, and viewers are tuning out. The audience for the Screen Actors Guild Awards, which began with host Kristen Bell mocking the first lady, plummeted 30 percent (they were also scheduled against an NFL playoff game). The Grammy Awards -- which mocked Donald Trump in a skit featuring celebrities and Hillary Clinton reading passages from Michael Wolff's unsubstantiated trash-for-cash book "Fire and Fury" -- was off 10 million viewers (24 percent) for an all-time low.

Live events -- including sports -- are being skipped by people who can't stand the political lectures. NFL ratings, after all the railing against racism, were down nearly 10 percent this season. NBC's coverage of the Winter Olympics -- complete with gay Olympians bashing Vice President Pence -- was down 7 percent, making them the least-watched Olympics on record.

https://townhall.com/columnists/brentboz...sletterad=
Should be renamed The Echo Chamber Awards, "and the Oscar goes to" becomes "and the Whiner goes to" and the blood carpet and awards event should be viewed only on Pay-Per-View.
Kind of like some of you are boycotting Dick's Sporting Goods and/or Walmart for their new gun laws, I don't really care if any of you watch the Oscars or not. Or the Olympics. Or any other sports shows or awards show. If you don't care if a company is changing its sales policy, I certainly don't care what your viewing habits are.

I'll watch parts of the Academy Awards like I always do, and probably tune out the long, boring middle parts. The end of it might be interesting - Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway are presenting the Best Picture Oscar again. Hopefully they give them the right card this time and the accounting dude in charge of the cards isn't ogling Emma Stone instead of doing his job.
(03-02-2018 08:29 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]Kind of like some of you are boycotting Dick's Sporting Goods and/or Walmart for their new gun laws, I don't really care if any of you watch the Oscars or not. Or the Olympics. Or any other sports shows or awards show. If you don't care if a company is changing its sales policy, I certainly don't care what your viewing habits are.

I'll watch parts of the Academy Awards like I always do, and probably tune out the long, boring middle parts. The end of it might be interesting - Warren Beatty and Faye Dunaway are presenting the Best Picture Oscar again. Hopefully they give them the right card this time and the accounting dude in charge of the cards isn't ogling Emma Stone instead of doing his job.

I'm a movie fan but I stopped watching years ago when it became less about the awards and more about causes and grandstanding pomp. I enjoyed it back when Billy Crystal hosted it. He brought good humor and poked more fun at the actors instead of politics. But yeah, each to his own.
more films and industry are moving out of leftist California to more balanced Georgia: less taxes and right-to-work beat out Hollywood. More mainstram ideals in red states, so eventually, the cycle will come around to re-balancing as America is very tired of increasingly marginal leftism in its movie fare.

link: Georgia tops California in feature film production, study finds

remember when they used to make movies like this?








On The Waterfront is a very liberal film (although Elia Kazan was one of the ones who named names in the Red Scare of the early 1950's). That film and The Grapes of Wrath are probably two of the most pro-union films ever made. Maybe How Green Was My Valley too although I haven't seen that one.

Yes the Golden Age of Hollywood had much more wholesome fare, but not everything was conservative back then either.

Hollywood responds to money; if conservative films continue to make money, they will be made. I think there have been some recent conservative films to do well.
(03-03-2018 07:44 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]On The Waterfront is a very liberal film (although Elia Kazan was one of the ones who named names in the Red Scare of the early 1950's). That film and The Grapes of Wrath are probably two of the most pro-union films ever made. Maybe How Green Was My Valley too although I haven't seen that one.

Yes the Golden Age of Hollywood had much more wholesome fare, but not everything was conservative back then either.

Hollywood responds to money; if conservative films continue to make money, they will be made. I think there have been some recent conservative films to do well.

On the Waterfront was a great film. Most everyone could relate to its themes of basic fairness, humanity, and the corruption it clearly pointed out. Brando's character wasn't a dope-smoking, hipster, Weinstein-predator, global-warmist- he was a man who stood for basic decency and perceived common American values. My point was they did liberal films far more palatable to the mainstream back then. Much of the fare Hollywood puts out now is far beyond what was traditionally considered liberal--it's extremist alt-left, largely Anti-American propaganda, and that is a big part of Hollywood's problem today. The NFL and other organizations are following down the same path, and much of America is starting to just tune out. America has always been a center-right country. Deviate too far left and you lose business. Americans are tired of all the drug-pushing, family-destroying, alphabet-disorder-promoting crap, and they are voting with their feet, dollars and eyeballs.
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The problem is that ratings don't suffer enough when celebrities rant. They still get their dollars, and probably an audience that is self-selecting more and more to be pro-movie, pro-celebrity.
(03-03-2018 09:35 AM)GoodOwl Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-03-2018 07:44 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]On The Waterfront is a very liberal film (although Elia Kazan was one of the ones who named names in the Red Scare of the early 1950's). That film and The Grapes of Wrath are probably two of the most pro-union films ever made. Maybe How Green Was My Valley too although I haven't seen that one.

Yes the Golden Age of Hollywood had much more wholesome fare, but not everything was conservative back then either.

Hollywood responds to money; if conservative films continue to make money, they will be made. I think there have been some recent conservative films to do well.

On the Waterfront was a great film. Most everyone could relate to its themes of basic fairness, humanity, and the corruption it clearly pointed out. Brando's character wasn't a dope-smoking, hipster, Weinstein-predator, global-warmist- he was a man who stood for basic decency and perceived common American values. My point was they did liberal films far more palatable to the mainstream back then. Much of the fare Hollywood puts out now is far beyond what was traditionally considered liberal--it's extremist alt-left, largely Anti-American propaganda, and that is a big part of Hollywood's problem today. The NFL and other organizations are following down the same path, and much of America is starting to just tune out. America has always been a center-right country. Deviate too far left and you lose business. Americans are tired of all the drug-pushing, family-destroying, alphabet-disorder-promoting crap, and they are voting with their feet, dollars and eyeballs.

They've gone over the top preachy. And they have no morals themselves. Its a bad combination.
Is it really the celebrities ranting or the movies that are nominated are movies that most Americans haven't seen or heard of?

That is really the issue for me. Every year there is something the celebrities are ranting about. It's been homelessness, AIDS, lack of minority nominees, foreign genocides, and now it's sexual harassment. Something new every year yet the same boring movies I haven't seen and won't see in the future.

The awards shows are a televised party for the Hollywood elite not a celebration of film meant to be shared with the average movie going American.
(03-05-2018 09:38 AM)JTiger Wrote: [ -> ]Is it really the celebrities ranting or the movies that are nominated are movies that most Americans haven't seen or heard of?
That is really the issue for me. Every year there is something the celebrities are ranting about. It's been homelessness, AIDS, lack of minority nominees, foreign genocides, and now it's sexual harassment. Something new every year yet the same boring movies I haven't seen and won't see in the future.
The awards shows are a televised party for the Hollywood elite not a celebration of film meant to be shared with the average movie going American.

That summarizes neatly the issues for me. The movies that win suck. And it's an orgy of self-congratulation and rants by idiots.
I've never watched an awards show. The reason isn't because I hate left-wing celebs its because the shows themselves are boring.
(03-05-2018 09:54 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-05-2018 09:38 AM)JTiger Wrote: [ -> ]Is it really the celebrities ranting or the movies that are nominated are movies that most Americans haven't seen or heard of?
That is really the issue for me. Every year there is something the celebrities are ranting about. It's been homelessness, AIDS, lack of minority nominees, foreign genocides, and now it's sexual harassment. Something new every year yet the same boring movies I haven't seen and won't see in the future.
The awards shows are a televised party for the Hollywood elite not a celebration of film meant to be shared with the average movie going American.

That summarizes neatly the issues for me. The movies that win suck. And it's an orgy of self-congratulation and rants by idiots.

Yep. Not interested in a bunch of self-absorbed people congratulating themselves and telling everyone tuned in what we should believe.

I'll leave them to their echo chamber..............
(03-05-2018 09:38 AM)JTiger Wrote: [ -> ]Is it really the celebrities ranting or the movies that are nominated are movies that most Americans haven't seen or heard of?

That is really the issue for me. Every year there is something the celebrities are ranting about. It's been homelessness, AIDS, lack of minority nominees, foreign genocides, and now it's sexual harassment. Something new every year yet the same boring movies I haven't seen and won't see in the future.

The awards shows are a televised party for the Hollywood elite not a celebration of film meant to be shared with the average movie going American.

This. Most of the movies that are nominated just plain suck.
(03-02-2018 04:35 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:Many red-state Americans who used to love awards shows on TV are now wary of celebrities who cannot help but use this platform to spew their hatred of President Trump and the evil/stupid conservatives who keep Hollywood liberals from running (ruining) America.

Take the Golden Globe Awards in January, which included a windy nine-minute Oprah Winfrey lecture about how we need the media elites more than ever, and celebrities dressed in black, donning "Time's Up" pins to say sexual harassment is over. Ratings dipped 5 percent and 11 percent in the key demographic for advertisers, a six-year low.

Hollywood may finally be getting the message that TV ratings are suffering because the public has grown weary of people turning live events into leftist political rallies.

The New York Times reported the Oscars people are worried. "Whenever stars use the platform to support progressive causes and make political statements, large numbers of viewers turn the channel, according to academy insiders, who cite minute-by-minute Nielsen data for past shows."

Channing Dungey, president of ABC Entertainment, said during their Oscars telecast, the campaign against sexual harassment should be limited to a prescheduled "moment," so viewers don't feel it "overshadows the artists and the films being honored."

If the Academy Awards people wanted to recall how Hollywood has behaved, they would take a "moment" to replay the standing ovation for child-raping director Roman Polanski when he won best director in 2003. The audience could see Meryl Streep standing and applauding, and then there's director Martin Scorsese doing the same, being a good sport about losing to Polanski, and standing up and clapping behind him is ... Harvey Weinstein.

That's a good clip of Hollywood's history on opposing sexual assault.

This year's Oscars host, ABC late-night comedian Jimmy Kimmel, was more blunt on "Good Morning America," saying, "This show is not about reliving people's sexual assaults. It's an awards show for people who have been dreaming about maybe winning an Oscar for their whole lives. And the last thing I want to do is ruin that for someone ... by making it unpleasant."

But will Kimmel lash out at Republicans? When "Good Morning America" asked if he's been too political recently and "pushed the envelope too far," he shot back "Not at all. I don't think you can go too far." So when it came to sexual assault, Kimmel said, "I'm not going to stop any bad behavior with my jokes." But "making it unpleasant" for people who couldn't vote for Hillary Clinton is apparently a patriotic duty.

Awards shows have been unable to avoid political moments, and viewers are tuning out. The audience for the Screen Actors Guild Awards, which began with host Kristen Bell mocking the first lady, plummeted 30 percent (they were also scheduled against an NFL playoff game). The Grammy Awards -- which mocked Donald Trump in a skit featuring celebrities and Hillary Clinton reading passages from Michael Wolff's unsubstantiated trash-for-cash book "Fire and Fury" -- was off 10 million viewers (24 percent) for an all-time low.

Live events -- including sports -- are being skipped by people who can't stand the political lectures. NFL ratings, after all the railing against racism, were down nearly 10 percent this season. NBC's coverage of the Winter Olympics -- complete with gay Olympians bashing Vice President Pence -- was down 7 percent, making them the least-watched Olympics on record.

https://townhall.com/columnists/brentboz...sletterad=

Why?

1) Maybe some of us are sick and tired of people who's job it is to pretend telling us what "real" people think.

2) Maybe it's because some of us are sick and tired of people who live and thrive in a depraved environment telling us we're "out of touch".

3) Maybe it's because some of us are sick and tired of people who tolerated or ignored sexual abuse and harassment telling us that we're vile because we don't recognize two dozen "genders".

4) Maybe it's because some of us are sick and tired of people who've made MILLIONS making movies about violence, war, and guns lecturing us about the evil of the second amendment and the NRA.

5) Maybe it's because some of us are sick and tired of people who think it's perfectly acceptable to have armed guards protecting them but don't think the rest of us should have that same right when it comes to our families.

6) Maybe it's because some of us are sick and tired of people many of whom don't have the brains god gave a goose looking down at us and considering us ignorant.

7) Or maybe it's because some of us are sick and tired of people patting themselves on the back for making half-ass garbage, calling it "art" then drooling over themselves praising their peers for making said garbage.

Take your pick.
(03-05-2018 10:36 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote: [ -> ]
(03-02-2018 04:35 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: [ -> ]
Quote:Many red-state Americans who used to love awards shows on TV are now wary of celebrities who cannot help but use this platform to spew their hatred of President Trump and the evil/stupid conservatives who keep Hollywood liberals from running (ruining) America.

Take the Golden Globe Awards in January, which included a windy nine-minute Oprah Winfrey lecture about how we need the media elites more than ever, and celebrities dressed in black, donning "Time's Up" pins to say sexual harassment is over. Ratings dipped 5 percent and 11 percent in the key demographic for advertisers, a six-year low.

Hollywood may finally be getting the message that TV ratings are suffering because the public has grown weary of people turning live events into leftist political rallies.

The New York Times reported the Oscars people are worried. "Whenever stars use the platform to support progressive causes and make political statements, large numbers of viewers turn the channel, according to academy insiders, who cite minute-by-minute Nielsen data for past shows."

Channing Dungey, president of ABC Entertainment, said during their Oscars telecast, the campaign against sexual harassment should be limited to a prescheduled "moment," so viewers don't feel it "overshadows the artists and the films being honored."

If the Academy Awards people wanted to recall how Hollywood has behaved, they would take a "moment" to replay the standing ovation for child-raping director Roman Polanski when he won best director in 2003. The audience could see Meryl Streep standing and applauding, and then there's director Martin Scorsese doing the same, being a good sport about losing to Polanski, and standing up and clapping behind him is ... Harvey Weinstein.

That's a good clip of Hollywood's history on opposing sexual assault.

This year's Oscars host, ABC late-night comedian Jimmy Kimmel, was more blunt on "Good Morning America," saying, "This show is not about reliving people's sexual assaults. It's an awards show for people who have been dreaming about maybe winning an Oscar for their whole lives. And the last thing I want to do is ruin that for someone ... by making it unpleasant."

But will Kimmel lash out at Republicans? When "Good Morning America" asked if he's been too political recently and "pushed the envelope too far," he shot back "Not at all. I don't think you can go too far." So when it came to sexual assault, Kimmel said, "I'm not going to stop any bad behavior with my jokes." But "making it unpleasant" for people who couldn't vote for Hillary Clinton is apparently a patriotic duty.

Awards shows have been unable to avoid political moments, and viewers are tuning out. The audience for the Screen Actors Guild Awards, which began with host Kristen Bell mocking the first lady, plummeted 30 percent (they were also scheduled against an NFL playoff game). The Grammy Awards -- which mocked Donald Trump in a skit featuring celebrities and Hillary Clinton reading passages from Michael Wolff's unsubstantiated trash-for-cash book "Fire and Fury" -- was off 10 million viewers (24 percent) for an all-time low.

Live events -- including sports -- are being skipped by people who can't stand the political lectures. NFL ratings, after all the railing against racism, were down nearly 10 percent this season. NBC's coverage of the Winter Olympics -- complete with gay Olympians bashing Vice President Pence -- was down 7 percent, making them the least-watched Olympics on record.

https://townhall.com/columnists/brentboz...sletterad=

Why?

1) Maybe some of us are sick and tired of people who's job it is to pretend telling us what "real" people think.

2) Maybe it's because some of us are sick and tired of people who live and thrive in a depraved environment telling us we're "out of touch".

3) Maybe it's because some of us are sick and tired of people who tolerated or ignored sexual abuse and harassment telling us that we're vile because we don't recognize two dozen "genders".

4) Maybe it's because some of us are sick and tired of people who've made MILLIONS making movies about violence, war, and guns lecturing us about the evil of the second amendment and the NRA.

5) Maybe it's because some of us are sick and tired of people who think it's perfectly acceptable to have armed guards protecting them but don't think the rest of us should have that same right when it comes to our families.

6) Maybe it's because some of us are sick and tired of people many of whom don't have the brains god gave a goose looking down at us and considering us ignorant.

7) Or maybe it's because some of us are sick and tired of people patting themselves on the back for making half-ass garbage, calling it "art" then drooling over themselves praising their peers for making said garbage.

Take your pick.

I pick (H): all the above
(03-03-2018 07:44 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote: [ -> ]On The Waterfront is a very liberal film (although Elia Kazan was one of the ones who named names in the Red Scare of the early 1950's). That film and The Grapes of Wrath are probably two of the most pro-union films ever made. Maybe How Green Was My Valley too although I haven't seen that one.

Yes the Golden Age of Hollywood had much more wholesome fare, but not everything was conservative back then either.

Hollywood responds to money; if conservative films continue to make money, they will be made. I think there have been some recent conservative films to do well.

Do yourself a favor, rent and watch How Green was my Valley. One of the very best films ever made. There wont be a dry eye in the house.
(03-05-2018 09:57 AM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: [ -> ]I've never watched an awards show. The reason isn't because I hate left-wing celebs its because the shows themselves are boring.

I don't watch them, either.

But now I've got a cause not to watch them.

03-wink

BTW, I still recall seeing the video clip when Elvis was asked about a certain political view.

He replied, in so many word, "I'm an entertainer. Nobody cares what I think."
Boring shows, watching smug, pompous airheads patting each other on the butt for making boring films, and spouting off the left wing talking point du jour. No thanks. I get better entertainment from the likes of Mach and Mork on here.
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