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How much this impacts Toledo to Ft. Wayne will I think depend upon entrance requirements, presuming they're different for in-state versus out-of-state. If the same, they will get Toledo students but I think they'll hit EMU and Wayne St as well as UT, PFW and some of the smaller colleges. AND that will depend upon how hard CMU pumps the hands in the counseling departments at the local districts, which is really how your lower range kids get their ideas for college attendance.


They're are going to be losers in this game. High college expenses have made competing for students, corporate.

(02-17-2018 09:53 AM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]How much this impacts Toledo to Ft. Wayne will I think depend upon entrance requirements, presuming they're different for in-state versus out-of-state. If the same, they will get Toledo students but I think they'll hit EMU and Wayne St as well as UT, PFW and some of the smaller colleges. AND that will depend upon how hard CMU pumps the hands in the counseling departments at the local districts, which is really how your lower range kids get their ideas for college attendance.


They're are going to be losers in this game. High college expenses have made competing for students, corporate.

In the 60's, UT had a lot of students from the NE. A combination of lower tuition and draft deferments contributed to this. Certainly might be something to think about.

(02-17-2018 10:15 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-17-2018 09:53 AM)eastisbest Wrote: [ -> ]How much this impacts Toledo to Ft. Wayne will I think depend upon entrance requirements, presuming they're different for in-state versus out-of-state. If the same, they will get Toledo students but I think they'll hit EMU and Wayne St as well as UT, PFW and some of the smaller colleges. AND that will depend upon how hard CMU pumps the hands in the counseling departments at the local districts, which is really how your lower range kids get their ideas for college attendance.


They're are going to be losers in this game. High college expenses have made competing for students, corporate.

In the 60's, UT had a lot of students from the NE. A combination of lower tuition and draft deferments contributed to this. Certainly might be something to think about.

Then later, I don't recall exactly a time start, they outgrew themselves by alot in every way possible and left themselves with a lot of unusable real estate, staff and administration. Local population hasn't lowered that much. Just city population. UT grew to unsustainable levels and the quality suffered.


The winners amongst the lower ranked and the small unattached privates will be those that most successfully (and quickly) raise their quality of teaching, their accessibility and their placement WITHOUT growing their population. These are the things that raise the level of the student, leading to leaders in the field, leading to recognition for the University and funding. Places like UT should not be offering class sizes of 45. It should be capped at 20-25. Their instructors should know English to the point of not being off-putting. I've never heard of any programs from the university to acclimate what are mostly geo-locked students to these cultures and accents that a kid in California would find normal. At the instructional level, UT is doing nothing to set themselves apart and they don't do same-ol as well as others.

This doesn't appear to me a 30 year battle. It's a ten year battle. My feeling is there are a lot of institutions on the razor's edge that are not fessing up, hence the reason for these artificial programs. Universities near the borders providing in-state makes up for a geographical inconvenience. CMU doing it is artificial. It's marketing. They could make the price the same through other sources without insulting the citizens of the state whose taxes fund that public university.