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http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/442...k-suspects

Quote:A study by the Crime Prevention Research Center’s John R. Lott Jr. and economist Carlisle E. Moody at the College of William and Mary finds that white police officers may be less likely than their black counterparts to use deadly force against black suspects. This study has not received much attention in the media, but the pair’s findings align with previous studies that indicate racism does not play a significant role in the deaths of black Americans at the hands of police. It also found no evidence that body cameras affect “the number of police killings or the racial composition of those killings.”


The Black Lives Matters movement has staked their claim on the assertion that police “hunt down” black Americans or systematically deprive them of life. Activists have charged that racism led to the deaths of Michael Brown, Philando Castile, and others, but Lott and Moody examined 1,333 more cases than are in the FBI data set and their findings show that white officers’ use of force is generally “race neutral.”

Quote:Additionally, the fact that body cameras do not appear to affect the use of force undercuts a key point that activists and the media often make, namely that body cameras will deter the current high levels of racial bias. Lott and Moody named body cameras as a “potential deterrent” of discriminatory violence, saying “When a shooting is recorded by a body cam, officers know that it will become a central focus of the public debate.” But their data did not show body cameras having any effect. Again, racism is not showing up as a serious factor in the data.

Great news! You guys can stop kneeling now!

(02-12-2018 09:41 PM)Chappy Wrote: [ -> ]Great news! You guys can stop kneeling now!

That was the problem with that stupid campaign to begin with, even if you were sympathetic with the cause. When they stopped kneeling, would that mean the problem was solved? Or do they plan on kneeling forever?

BUT MUH HANDS UP DONT SHOOT

Eh, nothing to see here. Does not fit narrative. Does not compute. Move along.......

It’s undeniable that in the past there was racial injustice in law enforcement. I’m certain it does still exist and examples of this shouldn’t be ignored. However, the biggest inequality issue isn’t based on black or white, it’s based on green.

(02-13-2018 09:13 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]It’s undeniable that in the past there was racial injustice in law enforcement. I’m certain it does still exist and examples of this shouldn’t be ignored. However, the biggest inequality issue isn’t based on black or white, it’s based on green.

I can agree with that; however, this false narrative that police are out to get blacks is simply not true based on statistics. Not like folks care about the facts though, right?

meh, facts...

(02-13-2018 09:26 AM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2018 09:13 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]It’s undeniable that in the past there was racial injustice in law enforcement. I’m certain it does still exist and examples of this shouldn’t be ignored. However, the biggest inequality issue isn’t based on black or white, it’s based on green.

I can agree with that; however, this false narrative that police are out to get blacks is simply not true based on statistics. Not like folks care about the facts though, right?

I agree. I think it certainly was the case at one point in time, and I do think there are cases of either incompetence or criminal activity among a very limited number of policemen that does need to be reported and handled on a case by case basis. Broad generalizations of any kind though are not helpful to anyone on any side. Policemen in the end are humans, I think in general they are far more right than wrong but mistakes happen and in rare instances gross misconduct happens. I think a big part of the problem is a lot in the black community want to punish those things now which are probably just mistakes as criminal because of things that were done wrong long ago. That’s not the way to handle it, and honestly there’s no righting the past wrongs. The key is to learn and not repeat the mistakes of the past.

(02-13-2018 09:26 AM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2018 09:13 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]It’s undeniable that in the past there was racial injustice in law enforcement. I’m certain it does still exist and examples of this shouldn’t be ignored. However, the biggest inequality issue isn’t based on black or white, it’s based on green.

I can agree with that; however, this false narrative that police are out to get blacks is simply not true based on statistics. Not like folks care about the facts though, right?

Well, they are and they aren't. While multiple studies show black suspects are not killed by police at a higher rate, there are also multiple studies that show that blacks are pulled over at higher rates and receive longer sentences than whites for the same crimes.

(02-13-2018 01:10 PM)Chappy Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2018 09:26 AM)VA49er Wrote: [ -> ]

(02-13-2018 09:13 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote: [ -> ]It’s undeniable that in the past there was racial injustice in law enforcement. I’m certain it does still exist and examples of this shouldn’t be ignored. However, the biggest inequality issue isn’t based on black or white, it’s based on green.

I can agree with that; however, this false narrative that police are out to get blacks is simply not true based on statistics. Not like folks care about the facts though, right?

Well, they are and they aren't. While multiple studies show black suspects are not killed by police at a higher rate, there are also multiple studies that show that blacks are pulled over at higher rates and receive longer sentences than whites for the same crimes.

I can’t comment on the pulled over piece, but it’s my opinion that the longer sentence part today is probably more related to income inequality. If you have an overworked public attorney you are likely to end up with a longer sentence or found guilty more often than if you can afford a qualified private defense attorney.