We've talked about it in the Weiner thread, but this really needs its own. This is YUGE!
Quote:Translation, the FBI believed Steele’s dossier was credible mainly because of his reputation, not due to the information itself.
As Breitbart News report Kristina Wong points out, the FISA application did not disclose “that the identities of Mr. Simpson’s ultimate clients were the Clinton campaign and the DNC.”
Wow. The unredacted Grassley memo claims that:
1) Steele lied to the FBI about his media contacts
2) Even *after* the FBI knew Steele was the source of the media stories, they LIED to the FISA court about this & *still* proffered the Isikoff article to the Court.
3) The FBI was still claiming to the FISA Court Steele hadn't talked to the media when they knew he had. They did this during EACH of the three renewals of the warrant.
Remember, the FBI had to *pretend* to the FISA Court they didn't know Steele was reporter Michael Isikoff's source for that Yahoo News article they proffered to the Court to corroborate the dossier allegations about Carter Page.
Why do you think Steele did it? Life long MI 6. Contemporary. Worked with the CIA and FBI. Seen as a peer in every sense of the word. Our own people corroborating much of his work. Take your pre conceived notions out of this. Putin kills people like Steele. Many speculated deaths linked to it. Do you really think he would put his life on the line for a lie?
What would you do if you found out Trump was working with Russia? Put yourself in that time period. Try to look above this. You are entering in from the viewpoint that a Trump is innocent. What if you are wrong?
(02-07-2018 06:28 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]What would you do if you found out Trump was working with Russia? Put yourself in that time period. Try to look above this. You are entering in from the viewpoint that a Trump is innocent. What if you are wrong?
What if Mrs. Clinton was working with Russia? Say, accumulating a dossier?
(02-07-2018 06:28 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]What would you do if you found out Trump was working with Russia? Put yourself in that time period. Try to look above this. You are entering in from the viewpoint that a Trump is innocent. What if you are wrong?
In this case, innocence until proven guilty should be suspended?
(02-07-2018 03:56 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]Why do you think Steele did it? Life long MI 6. Contemporary. Worked with the CIA and FBI. Seen as a peer in every sense of the word. Our own people corroborating much of his work. Take your pre conceived notions out of this. Putin kills people like Steele. Many speculated deaths linked to it. Do you really think he would put his life on the line for a lie?
Use some common sense. Steele paid the Russians for this information. Steele was Putin's puppet, just like you. Trying to undermine the constitutionally elected US government.
(02-07-2018 06:28 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]What would you do if you found out Trump was working with Russia? Put yourself in that time period. Try to look above this. You are entering in from the viewpoint that a Trump is innocent. What if you are wrong?
I would be surprised since nearly the entire US media, the FBI, DOJ, CIA and the Democratic Party have been trying to prove it for a year and a half and have nothing but a ham-handed meeting with that Russian woman. Which, by the way, is far less contact with the Russians than has been admitted by the Clinton campaign, who paid the Russians to influence the campaign. And lied repeatedly until the FBI was forced to disclose the truth. Clinton was the one in bed with the Russians. She was doing Putin's dirty work.
Do you really think Putin someone who would be tougher on him than the bought and paid for Hillary Clinton? He just wanted discord in America. And you are doing your best to be Putin's puppet and do his work.
(02-07-2018 03:56 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]Why do you think Steele did it? Life long MI 6. Contemporary. Worked with the CIA and FBI. Seen as a peer in every sense of the word. Our own people corroborating much of his work. Take your pre conceived notions out of this. Putin kills people like Steele. Many speculated deaths linked to it. Do you really think he would put his life on the line for a lie?
Use some common sense. Steele paid the Russians for this information. Steele was Putin's useful idiot, just like you. Trying to undermine the constitutionally elected US government.
(02-07-2018 06:28 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]What would you do if you found out Trump was working with Russia? Put yourself in that time period. Try to look above this. You are entering in from the viewpoint that a Trump is innocent. What if you are wrong?
We know what we would do. What will you do when you find out you're wrong?
(02-07-2018 06:28 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]What would you do if you found out Trump was working with Russia? Put yourself in that time period. Try to look above this. You are entering in from the viewpoint that a Trump is innocent. What if you are wrong?
We know what we would do. What will you do when you find out you're wrong?
He already knows he's wrong. He's known for a long while.
(02-07-2018 06:28 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]What would you do if you found out Trump was working with Russia? Put yourself in that time period. Try to look above this. You are entering in from the viewpoint that a Trump is innocent. What if you are wrong?
We know what we would do. What will you do when you find out you're wrong?
He already knows he's wrong. He's known for a long while.
That's probably true. Truth means nothing to them though.
(02-06-2018 11:44 PM)TechRocks Wrote: [ -> ]We've talked about it in the Weiner thread, but this really needs its own. This is YUGE!
Quote:Translation, the FBI believed Steele’s dossier was credible mainly because of his reputation, not due to the information itself.
As Breitbart News report Kristina Wong points out, the FISA application did not disclose “that the identities of Mr. Simpson’s ultimate clients were the Clinton campaign and the DNC.”
Wow. The unredacted Grassley memo claims that:
1) Steele lied to the FBI about his media contacts
2) Even *after* the FBI knew Steele was the source of the media stories, they LIED to the FISA court about this & *still* proffered the Isikoff article to the Court.
3) The FBI was still claiming to the FISA Court Steele hadn't talked to the media when they knew he had. They did this during EACH of the three renewals of the warrant.
Remember, the FBI had to *pretend* to the FISA Court they didn't know Steele was reporter Michael Isikoff's source for that Yahoo News article they proffered to the Court to corroborate the dossier allegations about Carter Page.
(02-07-2018 06:28 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]What would you do if you found out Trump was working with Russia? Put yourself in that time period. Try to look above this. You are entering in from the viewpoint that a Trump is innocent. What if you are wrong?
What if Mrs. Clinton was working with Russia? Say, accumulating a dossier?
(02-07-2018 11:04 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-06-2018 11:44 PM)TechRocks Wrote: [ -> ]We've talked about it in the Weiner thread, but this really needs its own. This is YUGE!
Quote:Translation, the FBI believed Steele’s dossier was credible mainly because of his reputation, not due to the information itself.
As Breitbart News report Kristina Wong points out, the FISA application did not disclose “that the identities of Mr. Simpson’s ultimate clients were the Clinton campaign and the DNC.”
Wow. The unredacted Grassley memo claims that:
1) Steele lied to the FBI about his media contacts
2) Even *after* the FBI knew Steele was the source of the media stories, they LIED to the FISA court about this & *still* proffered the Isikoff article to the Court.
3) The FBI was still claiming to the FISA Court Steele hadn't talked to the media when they knew he had. They did this during EACH of the three renewals of the warrant.
Remember, the FBI had to *pretend* to the FISA Court they didn't know Steele was reporter Michael Isikoff's source for that Yahoo News article they proffered to the Court to corroborate the dossier allegations about Carter Page.
Adam Schiff is about to have a very bad week. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2018/02/...-memo-2-0/
Gateway pundit. That's all I need to know.
Shoot the messenger. I assume it is okay if we find your sources similarly believable.
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