I'd like to see full release of all of it.......warrant applications, recordings, everything from the FBI, the DOJ, the State Department, even White House records related to all of this......unmasking requests, where the data headed once it was disclosed, etc.
Since the beginning this whole mess has done nothing but make dims look bad and I bet we've seen only the tip of the iceberg. Remember folks, we're talking about 8 years of Obama administration and the belief that they'd be followed by 8 years of Cankles.
There are shyte grenades planted all over the place.
(02-06-2018 06:03 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: [ -> ]If releasing the entire warrant were in Trump's best interest, then it would have been released. It's obviously not.
If releasing the full warrant was in the DNC's favor they'd leaked it. Obviously it's not.
(02-06-2018 06:03 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: [ -> ]If releasing the entire warrant were in Trump's best interest, then it would have been released. It's obviously not.
I understand your logic, but also understand that Trump has known all of this for a long time. If I had to guess, he's got the schedule already worked out on releasing information very embarrassing to dims one document at a time......but also reserves the right to pull something big out when the news cycle calls for it.
With the exception of the Mueller investigation (and I think we can all be adults here and agree that there will be no charges of Russian collusion by Mueller), the news has been nothing but a shyte show for dims for many months on end. Every day it looks worse. And based on the comments Nunes is making about releasing 4 or 5 more memos outlining government wrong-doing against the Trump administration, shyte sammiches appear to be the main dish on the menu for you guys for a long time to come.
Schiff was on CNN this morning making a big deal of the fact that the entire dossier was not filed with the FISA court. He went on to say, most of the information in the portion that was filed with the court had been verified. Of course, it was CNN, so the obvious follow-up question was not asked, "Most was verified, meaning some was not?" The significance is that as I understand the FISA rules, ALL information filed with the court has to be verified.
All info has to be verified? What if a foreign intelligence source gives it to you. That’s not verifiable but it’s actionable. I don’t think you are right there Owl.
the accuracy of the Steele dossier could give them a stronger case. The Justice Department has refused to officially say whether they have confirmed the veracity of the dossier. That doesn’t look good for the FBI, if they relied on it in their warrant application, while knowing it may not be reliable. Still, even if the dossier is bogus and the FBI used it for the warrant, they could still be in the clear if the dossier only provided supplemental information, with their probable cause, which is needed to obtain a warrant, mainly stemming from other, verified sources.
(02-06-2018 06:55 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]the accuracy of the Steele dossier could give them a stronger case. The Justice Department has refused to officially say whether they have confirmed the veracity of the dossier. That doesn’t look good for the FBI, if they relied on it in their warrant application, while knowing it may not be reliable. Still, even if the dossier is bogus and the FBI used it for the warrant, they could still be in the clear if the dossier only provided supplemental information, with their probable cause, which is needed to obtain a warrant, mainly stemming from other, verified sources.
dammit Mach, you're gaining on objectivity......attaboy!!!!
chief, we're telling you straight up.....it's going to come down to who is going get squeezed and where the dominoes will begin to fall.....
nobody is arguing the validity of the FBI or DOJ per se.....this is only about the cover-up and who's involved based on the known/released evidence and the timeline......
do not kid yourself......somebody in the know is going to squeal like a piggy......it will be then when the shite hits the fan and indictments are issued.....
you guys can no longer hide from this one......it's like not making a house payment over months and getting foreclosed on......
(02-06-2018 06:56 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]There were 39 other pieces of evidence remember
What other 39 pieces of evidence? Linky?
Andrew McCabe is quoted as saying in testimony before the Committee that without the Steele Dossier, the FBI would not have sought a FISC warrant against Carter Page so whatever those other 39 pieces of evidence, they must not have been very important.
(02-06-2018 06:03 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: [ -> ]If releasing the entire warrant were in Trump's best interest, then it would have been released. It's obviously not.
If releasing the full warrant was in the DNC's favor they'd leaked it. Obviously it's not.
so it means that the full warrant probably shows the dirt on both sides of the aisle.
(02-06-2018 06:03 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: [ -> ]If releasing the entire warrant were in Trump's best interest, then it would have been released. It's obviously not.
If releasing the full warrant was in the DNC's favor they'd leaked it. Obviously it's not.
so it means that the full warrant probably shows the dirt on both sides of the aisle.
or planted intelligence bias that would force redaction......
c'mon man.....you're smarter than that.....
the dippos are out of ammo and cash.......
dems running on fumes at this point.....
blame the DNC for spending 2B on criminal cankles.....
(02-06-2018 06:56 PM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]There were 39 other pieces of evidence remember
And it just so happens that all of the stink bombs seem to be uncorroborated. If I put together a dossier comprised of 70% completely false and egregious lies and 30% mundane facts, you'd be OK with it? Would it really be that easy?
With the email hacks, at least those were facts. Still not real sure why people get upset about that.
(02-06-2018 06:03 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: [ -> ]If releasing the entire warrant were in Trump's best interest, then it would have been released. It's obviously not.
If releasing the full warrant was in the DNC's favor they'd leaked it. Obviously it's not.
so it means that the full warrant probably shows the dirt on both sides of the aisle.
(02-06-2018 05:24 PM)TechRocks Wrote: [ -> ]I'd like to see full release of all of it.......warrant applications, recordings, everything from the FBI, the DOJ, the State Department, even White House records related to all of this......unmasking requests, where the data headed once it was disclosed, etc.
Since the beginning this whole mess has done nothing but make dims look bad and I bet we've seen only the tip of the iceberg. Remember folks, we're talking about 8 years of Obama administration and the belief that they'd be followed by 8 years of Cankles.
There are shyte grenades planted all over the place.
#pullthepins
You've been searching for pins to pull for over a year and haven't blown a damn thing up yet. The Russia investigation has more casualties than you and dud Nunes.
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