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http://www.startribune.com/boycott-footb...466668883/

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If you knowingly purchase clothing sewn in sweatshops and you have the financial means to do otherwise, you are complicit in the evils of that labor practice. You have done something wrong and harmed the workers. Some of the cocoa that goes into commercial chocolates is harvested using slave and child labor. Ignoring that fact and buying chocolate from companies that have not reformed their production processes supports this abhorrent practice and is therefore wrong.

Each of us has an obligation to opt for ethically produced items when given the option.

American football devastates players. Beyond persistent pain throughout the body, former players at the high school, college and professional levels all face an increased likelihood of developing chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), a degenerative neurological condition marked by memory loss, erratic behavior, poor decisionmaking, bouts of rage and suicidal thoughts.

(12-27-2017 02:20 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.startribune.com/boycott-footb...466668883/

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If you knowingly purchase clothing sewn in sweatshops and you have the financial means to do otherwise, you are complicit in the evils of that labor practice. You have done something wrong and harmed the workers. Some of the cocoa that goes into commercial chocolates is harvested using slave and child labor. Ignoring that fact and buying chocolate from companies that have not reformed their production processes supports this abhorrent practice and is therefore wrong.

Each of us has an obligation to opt for ethically produced items when given the option.

American football devastates players. Beyond persistent pain throughout the body, former players at the high school, college and professional levels all face an increased likelihood of developing chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), a degenerative neurological condition marked by memory loss, erratic behavior, poor decisionmaking, bouts of rage and suicidal thoughts.

No thanks, I'll continue to watch. ZFG.

(12-27-2017 02:20 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.startribune.com/boycott-footb...466668883/

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If you knowingly purchase clothing sewn in sweatshops and you have the financial means to do otherwise, you are complicit in the evils of that labor practice. You have done something wrong and harmed the workers. Some of the cocoa that goes into commercial chocolates is harvested using slave and child labor. Ignoring that fact and buying chocolate from companies that have not reformed their production processes supports this abhorrent practice and is therefore wrong.

Each of us has an obligation to opt for ethically produced items when given the option.

American football devastates players. Beyond persistent pain throughout the body, former players at the high school, college and professional levels all face an increased likelihood of developing chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), a degenerative neurological condition marked by memory loss, erratic behavior, poor decisionmaking, bouts of rage and suicidal thoughts.

Based on your post get a time machine and stop the transatlantic slave trade

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I didn't play college football, but I did play in high school. Maybe my brain WAS damaged, but I continue to enjoy the game. Now, I agree that some of the techniques* taught by certain coaches are reprehensible - so go after those coaches by all means. Dirty players also must go, as well as anyone who uses PEDs such as steroids.

...but boycott a game that I played and continue to enjoy? I'm going to need MUCH more convincing!
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* for example, those who teach defensive players to put their facemask in the chest of the offensive player - thus putting the defensive player at risk of serious neck/spinal injury. It's not even the most effective way to tackle!

No.

Philosophically, I agree. It's becoming apparent that football leads to brain injury for just about all players. And 99% of those players will never make any money worth mentioning for suffering that.

Nevertheless, I've watched it for 45 years and I'd be lying if i said i was going to stop. About to turn the Pinstripe Bowl on right now.

Piggybacking on the OP: Is there a single, event-horizon moment that would have you seriously consider no longer watching football? A major star dying on the field after a hit? A younger Hall of Famer having a Chris Benoit breakdown? A definitive medical study showing severe cognitive disabilities for a sizable number of players at all levels? Would a cumulative effect be enough?

SNOWFLAKES

Why exactly does the OP have an account on a college sports message board that is football focused?

(12-27-2017 05:37 PM)Cyniclone Wrote: [ -> ]Piggybacking on the OP: Is there a single, event-horizon moment that would have you seriously consider no longer watching football? A major star dying on the field after a hit? A younger Hall of Famer having a Chris Benoit breakdown? A definitive medical study showing severe cognitive disabilities for a sizable number of players at all levels? Would a cumulative effect be enough?

I don't watch boxing or mma because they are violent by design - the very objective is to hurt someone. By contrast, the goal in football is to score and prevent scoring. I distinguish violent players from violent "sports".

(12-27-2017 02:20 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.startribune.com/boycott-footb...466668883/

excerpted:

If you knowingly purchase clothing sewn in sweatshops and you have the financial means to do otherwise, you are complicit in the evils of that labor practice. You have done something wrong and harmed the workers. Some of the cocoa that goes into commercial chocolates is harvested using slave and child labor. Ignoring that fact and buying chocolate from companies that have not reformed their production processes supports this abhorrent practice and is therefore wrong.

Each of us has an obligation to opt for ethically produced items when given the option.

American football devastates players. Beyond persistent pain throughout the body, former players at the high school, college and professional levels all face an increased likelihood of developing chronic traumatic encephalopathy (CTE), a degenerative neurological condition marked by memory loss, erratic behavior, poor decisionmaking, bouts of rage and suicidal thoughts.

hey do any of you have a beret I can borrow? I bet you are a Bernie Bro.

(12-27-2017 05:37 PM)Cyniclone Wrote: [ -> ]Piggybacking on the OP: Is there a single, event-horizon moment that would have you seriously consider no longer watching football? A major star dying on the field after a hit? A younger Hall of Famer having a Chris Benoit breakdown? A definitive medical study showing severe cognitive disabilities for a sizable number of players at all levels? Would a cumulative effect be enough?

Should soccer be played with nerf balls to stop the brain damage "heading" causes?

(12-27-2017 05:37 PM)Cyniclone Wrote: [ -> ]Piggybacking on the OP: Is there a single, event-horizon moment that would have you seriously consider no longer watching football? A major star dying on the field after a hit? A younger Hall of Famer having a Chris Benoit breakdown? A definitive medical study showing severe cognitive disabilities for a sizable number of players at all levels? Would a cumulative effect be enough?

Would have to be something like that. Many members of a NFL team would have to gang rape someone or say something racist. Multiple murders by multiple dudes, something shocking and would have to be widespread, not just 1 or 2.

I would probably never stop watching college football no matter what.

It feels good to boycott cocoa farms because to do so is advanced moral thinking that shows how upright and admirable you are to your friends. The exploited workers will no longer be exploited because they no longer have any means for making a living at all, but that is not worth mentioning.

It also feels good to boycott textile manufacturers because to do so is advanced moral thinking that shows how upright and admirable you are to your friends. The exploited workers will no longer be exploited because the no longer will have any means for making a living at all, but that is not worth mentioning.

Its a great thing that the world is such a simple place that can be corrected in such simple ways.

(12-27-2017 04:56 PM)quo vadis Wrote: [ -> ]Philosophically, I agree. It's becoming apparent that football leads to brain injury for just about all players. And 99% of those players will never make any money worth mentioning for suffering that.

Nevertheless, I've watched it for 45 years and I'd be lying if i said i was going to stop. About to turn the Pinstripe Bowl on right now.

I'm not sure I agree with that bolded statement. It may be true, but I think science is a long way from knowing that with any certainty.

That being said, I expect that the current emphasis on CTE is likely to lead science to eventually find a way to diagnose such injury while the patient is still alive. Until then, the best we can do is determine that people who we suspect were suffering from CTE based on their behavior post-sports, actually had the condition. So far, the data suggests our suspicions of brain damage are correct 99% of the time.

If we develop such a diagnostic tool, and decide to mandate its use as a precondition of allowing players to participate in sports, it should IMO be required for all sports - not just football. How long do you suppose boxing or MMA would last if the only people allowed to participate were those who had suffered no brain trauma?

(12-27-2017 07:03 PM)ark30inf Wrote: [ -> ]It feels good to boycott cocoa farms because to do so is advanced moral thinking that shows how upright and admirable you are to your friends. The exploited workers will no longer be exploited because they no longer have any means for making a living at all, but that is not worth mentioning.

It also feels good to boycott textile manufacturers because to do so is advanced moral thinking that shows how upright and admirable you are to your friends. The exploited workers will no longer be exploited because the no longer will have any means for making a living at all, but that is not worth mentioning.

Its a great thing that the world is such a simple place that can be corrected in such simple ways.

Virtue signaling by Social Justice Warriors...

(12-27-2017 05:37 PM)Cyniclone Wrote: [ -> ]Piggybacking on the OP: Is there a single, event-horizon moment that would have you seriously consider no longer watching football? A major star dying on the field after a hit? A younger Hall of Famer having a Chris Benoit breakdown? A definitive medical study showing severe cognitive disabilities for a sizable number of players at all levels? Would a cumulative effect be enough?

Maybe if my son was killed on the football field. Outside of that probably nothing if we’re being honest

What would be the replacement for football? Men's soccer?

Could FB go into enough of decline where it is replaced as an NCAA sport?

Will FB modernize enough to stay relevant?

(12-27-2017 05:37 PM)Cyniclone Wrote: [ -> ]Piggybacking on the OP: Is there a single, event-horizon moment that would have you seriously consider no longer watching football? A major star dying on the field after a hit? A younger Hall of Famer having a Chris Benoit breakdown? A definitive medical study showing severe cognitive disabilities for a sizable number of players at all levels? Would a cumulative effect be enough?

Why do we allow people jump out of airplanes for no real useful purpose when sometimes people crash into the ground?

Why do we allow people put on wing suits and sail at 60 miles per hour over jagged rocks when there is absolutely no useful purpose for doing so and sometimes people crash into those rocks?

Why do we allow people free climb mountains for absolutely no reason when safety gear is available?

Why do we allow people fly in experimental airplanes that they built themselves?

Why do we allow people to climb Everest for no useful purpose when there are dead frozen bodies littering the trail?

Why do we allow motorcycle ice racing with spiked wheels?

Why did we allow Dale Earnhardt to do something that ended up with him slamming into a wall?

Why was snow skiing not stopped with Sonny Bono and Liam Neeson's wife?

Why do we allow recreational motorcycles on the same highways with 18-wheelers and cars?

Horseback riding, show jumping, bull riding, gymnastics, cheerleading, hockey, MMA, bicycle riding, parkour, base jumping, etc., etc., etc.

Why is football being particularly singled out? Why the push to kill football and no real push to kill all these other dangerous activities?

I'm guessing that it is because it is a working man's entertainment and is seen as more "common" and "uncouth" and more uniquely American by various journalists and opinion leaders.

(If you really want to do something.....stop kids under 18 from using ATV's/3-wheelers).