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I know of none.
There is so little evidence, as in none, that democrats are now trying to manufacture a crisis by warning Trump repeatedly not to fire Muehller, even though Trump and his legal team has said time and again they have no plans in doing so. But, by ginning that up, the libturds are trying to put that tingle down the legs of their little grubers, to give them a little excitement. Cause its been bad for the libturds, and its about to get a lot worse.
Why would you?
zippo...nada...zed.


None, it is all a waste of time, money and a big nothing .


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I'm sure he won't tip his hand now. If there is something there, I hope to see it presented and Trump gets his ass nailed to the wall if he's guilty. I also hope that if this is objectively a witch hunt of a Mueller and a group of predominantly pro Clinton underlings - that it gets show to the world. Either way, can't wait for this crap to end.
There's plenty of Russia collusion.. with the hillary clinton campaign and dnc (same thing).

She paid perkins coie, who paid fusion gps, who paid christopher steele, who colluded with the Russians to create the disproven, discredited dossier, which was delivered to strzok, who dressed it up and presented it as "legitimate intelligence" to get a phony warrant to spy on their political enemies.

And even with that rubber-stamped, phony warrant, they STILL have nothing.

That's because there is nothing, and it was all a fraud to get the spotlight off of them, and onto President Trump. Some would call it an "insurance policy".

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Mueller is deep in the weeds up to his butt crack trying to find something, anything to save his reputation. He should change his last name to Rivera.
Obstruction looks like it's a given at this point. Now, there just trying to figure out why.
(12-22-2017 08:59 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: [ -> ]Obstruction looks like it's a given at this point. Now, there just trying to figure out why.

OP. Collusion. Where is the evidence?
(12-22-2017 09:13 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2017 08:59 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: [ -> ]Obstruction looks like it's a given at this point. Now, there just trying to figure out why.

OP. Collusion. Where is the evidence?

Obstruction is enough to impeach.
(12-22-2017 08:59 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: [ -> ]Obstruction looks like it's a given at this point. Now, there just trying to figure out why.

Based on what legal evidence?
If the Democrats win the house in 2018 you can guarantee they will impeach Trump. Impeachment is a political process not a legal process, so they can impeach him on anything.


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(12-22-2017 09:38 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2017 09:13 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2017 08:59 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: [ -> ]Obstruction looks like it's a given at this point. Now, there just trying to figure out why.

OP. Collusion. Where is the evidence?

Obstruction is enough to impeach.

Trump obstructed? Since there is no collusion, when obstruction is no longer valid what are you going to claim next?
(12-22-2017 09:56 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2017 09:38 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2017 09:13 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2017 08:59 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: [ -> ]Obstruction looks like it's a given at this point. Now, there just trying to figure out why.

OP. Collusion. Where is the evidence?

Obstruction is enough to impeach.

Trump obstructed? Since there is no collusion, when obstruction is no longer valid what are you going to claim next?


I wish this was true but it’s not. Even if the whole collusion story is proven false they can still charge Trump with obstruction if it is proven he knowingly hampered the investigation. I think it is wrong but that is the way it is.


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(12-22-2017 09:53 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]If the Democrats win the house in 2018 you can guarantee they will impeach Trump. Impeachment is a political process not a legal process, so they can impeach him on anything.


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Unless something radically changes (mueller's investigation is collapsing), they are going to look like idiots if they try, and cause a wipeout in 2020, including President Trump's reelection.
How is Trump obstructing? This I want to hear.
(12-22-2017 10:01 PM)UofMTigerTim Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2017 09:56 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2017 09:38 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2017 09:13 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote: [ -> ]
(12-22-2017 08:59 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: [ -> ]Obstruction looks like it's a given at this point. Now, there just trying to figure out why.

OP. Collusion. Where is the evidence?

Obstruction is enough to impeach.

Trump obstructed? Since there is no collusion, when obstruction is no longer valid what are you going to claim next?


I wish this was true but it’s not. Even if the whole collusion story is proven false they can still charge Trump with obstruction if it is proven he knowingly hampered the investigation. I think it is wrong but that is the way it is.


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Impeachment is not a flippant process. It's one thing to think it or even say publicly "the president should be impeached." To actually undertake the process would pose a tremendous risk to DEMS and threaten large political capital. I think the left likes to throw those words around to play to their base and that's it. I just don't see it happening with the fact that this thing has drug on for so long without any real evidence or a smoking gun and questions of impartiality and conflicts of interest remain.
The Dems are behind in fundraising 8 to 1. They're broke. If they honestly had this lead going into 2018, money would be flowing in like water. And of course, without a congressional majority, they have absolutely no chance for impeachment.
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