(10-31-2017 07:58 PM)RutgersGuy Wrote: [ -> ]My prediction of final four in order:
Alabama
Notre Dame
Miami
Ohio State
Notre Dame and Miami play. 2 teams enter, 1 team leaves.
I think Memphis is a little too high, but otherwise I agree with the G5 order.
I don't actually watch the playoffs, so don't care about the other 4, but I hope Bama loses just because.
(10-31-2017 08:36 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]I think Memphis is a little too high, but otherwise I agree with the G5 order.
I don't actually watch the playoffs, so don't care about the other 4, but I hope Bama loses just because.
You mean P6. The G4 are not included.
(10-31-2017 08:39 PM)NBPirate Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2017 08:36 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]I think Memphis is a little too high, but otherwise I agree with the G5 order.
I don't actually watch the playoffs, so don't care about the other 4, but I hope Bama loses just because.
You mean P6. The G4 are not included.
Right, remind me how much this so-called P6 conference actually makes?
(10-31-2017 08:39 PM)NBPirate Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2017 08:36 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]I think Memphis is a little too high, but otherwise I agree with the G5 order.
I don't actually watch the playoffs, so don't care about the other 4, but I hope Bama loses just because.
You mean P6. The G4 are not included.
Give that P6 crap up, AAC is no more a P6 than the Big Sky is FBS.
I think they got it right Clemson has beat 4 top 25 teams, ND is on a roll and the 2 from SEC stand on their merit. Glad to see they think B1G is over rated.
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(10-31-2017 08:39 PM)NBPirate Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2017 08:36 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]I think Memphis is a little too high, but otherwise I agree with the G5 order.
I don't actually watch the playoffs, so don't care about the other 4, but I hope Bama loses just because.
You mean P6. The G4 are not included.
It's more fun when a UCF fan runs his mouth about this nonsense. At least they can back it up with an actual football program. How many wins does ECU have again this year?
(10-31-2017 08:45 PM)Jjoey52 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2017 08:39 PM)NBPirate Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2017 08:36 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: [ -> ]I think Memphis is a little too high, but otherwise I agree with the G5 order.
I don't actually watch the playoffs, so don't care about the other 4, but I hope Bama loses just because.
You mean P6. The G4 are not included.
Give that P6 crap up, AAC is no more a P6 than the Big Sky is FBS.
I think they got it right Clemson has beat 4 top 25 teams, ND is on a roll and the 2 from SEC stand on their merit. Glad to see they think B1G is over rated.
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The Big Sky is closer to FBS than the AAC is to the P6.
Well, if Memphis is ranked too high, maybe the P6 marketing campaign is working after all.
(10-31-2017 08:26 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2017 08:20 PM)SMUmustangs Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2017 07:17 PM)otown Wrote: [ -> ]I am loving the top 4. Everyone on the outside will need help at this point. If Georgia loses to Bama in the SECCG, or vice versa..... I don't think either drops below 4. Having Big 12, PAC 12, and the B1G all miss out on the playoffs will be priceless LOL.
I do not think there is any chance that will happen. NO way will three conference champs be left out and two from one conference get in. Besides the SEC is not very good. Alabama has not beaten a team currently ranked in the top 25.....weak schedule.
If OU loses again the Big 12 is out. If Washington loses again the PAC is out. If Clemson loses again and N.D. wins out the ACC is out, but Notre Dame is in, unless Georgia is up for their slot with a close loss to Alabama in the CCG.
The Big 10 is just as likely to get two in as the SEC.
But I wouldn't knock Alabama's schedule too much. When the season is over they will likely hold wins over 5 ranked opponents. Remember F.S.U. was ranked when Alabama beat them and they might still have been ranked if Alabama hand taken out their starting QB for the season.
A 12-1 champ has never been left out. Now that won’t hold forever, and maybe this is the year there aren’t many upsets, but odds are there is more attrition left. OU in 2015 and OSU in 2014 were in the mid teens the first rankings. Both won out to make the top 4 with one loss. I don’t think you can count out any 0 or 1 loss team.
(10-31-2017 08:26 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]But I wouldn't knock Alabama's schedule too much. When the season is over they will likely hold wins over 5 ranked opponents. Remember F.S.U. was ranked when Alabama beat them and they might still have been ranked if Alabama hand taken out their starting QB for the season.
Maybe we can't always count on the committee to be consistent, but in the first three years they have emphasized that when they're looking at quality wins for the final ranking, they're looking for wins over teams that are ranked at the end. So Alabama, Miami, and Clemson won't be credited for a quality win for beating FSU.
That factor is worth watching when we're looking at teams that have wins over opponents that are now somewhere between 15-25 in the CFP rankings. They'll be rooting for those opponents to stay ranked.
(10-31-2017 11:08 PM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2017 08:26 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]But I wouldn't knock Alabama's schedule too much. When the season is over they will likely hold wins over 5 ranked opponents. Remember F.S.U. was ranked when Alabama beat them and they might still have been ranked if Alabama hand taken out their starting QB for the season.
Maybe we can't always count on the committee to be consistent, but in the first three years they have emphasized that when they're looking at quality wins for the final ranking, they're looking for wins over teams that are ranked at the end. So Alabama, Miami, and Clemson won't be credited for a quality win for beating FSU.
That factor is worth watching when we're looking at teams that have wins over opponents that are now somewhere between 15-25 in the CFP rankings. They'll be rooting for those opponents to stay ranked.
Alabama would over the other 2 given they had their QB.
and it's interesting.. A&M if they can beat LSU but loses to Auburn finishes at 8-4. LSU if they beat Arkansas and Tennessee finishes 8-4. Miss St likely finishes at 9-3. Auburn would finish at 8-4. All 4 of those teams would be ranked. Then add Georgia, and you have 5 ranked wins- not even counting Florida St.
(10-31-2017 11:08 PM)Wedge Wrote: [ -> ] (10-31-2017 08:26 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ]But I wouldn't knock Alabama's schedule too much. When the season is over they will likely hold wins over 5 ranked opponents. Remember F.S.U. was ranked when Alabama beat them and they might still have been ranked if Alabama hand taken out their starting QB for the season.
Maybe we can't always count on the committee to be consistent, but in the first three years they have emphasized that when they're looking at quality wins for the final ranking, they're looking for wins over teams that are ranked at the end. So Alabama, Miami, and Clemson won't be credited for a quality win for beating FSU.
That factor is worth watching when we're looking at teams that have wins over opponents that are now somewhere between 15-25 in the CFP rankings. They'll be rooting for those opponents to stay ranked.
At this point it doesn't really matter. Keep winning and you are in. They aren't going to drop the top 4 very much because most schools play their toughest foes at the end.
LOVE that the committee ranked Georgia above Alabama and Oklahoma above Ohio State. Ohio State being ranked above Oklahoma in the polls was a huge pet peeve of mine.
The only REAL problem I have is Clemson being #4. I, personally, would have had OU at 4, tOSU at 5, and Clemson at 6.
Sure they have some good wins, but have a BAD loss, much worse than OU or tOSU.
Sorry committee, but past performances should have zero bearing on this year's rankings.
I actually don't have a problem with Wisconsin at 9. What should have been a decent schedule turned into a less that stellar one thanks to several teams having down years. That being said, if Wisconsin takes care of their business and runs the table, they're in.
As much as it's SUPPOSED to be about the 4 best teams, there's no way leaving 3 of the 5 P5 conferences out of the playoffs won't result in a civil war.
I think in the end it will end up being......
1) Alabama
2) ND
3) OU
4) tOSU
(11-01-2017 07:10 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote: [ -> ]The only REAL problem I have is Clemson being #4. I, personally, would have had OU at 4, tOSU at 5, and Clemson at 6.
Sure they have some good wins, but have a BAD loss, much worse than OU or tOSU.
Sorry committee, but past performances should have zero bearing on this year's rankings.
I actually don't have a problem with Wisconsin at 9. What should have been a decent schedule turned into a less that stellar one thanks to several teams having down years. That being said, if Wisconsin takes care of their business and runs the table, they're in.
As much as it's SUPPOSED to be about the 4 best teams, there's no way leaving 3 of the 5 P5 conferences out of the playoffs won't result in a civil war.
I think in the end it will end up being......
1) Alabama
2) ND
3) OU
4) tOSU
And if those four were to all win out from here, then in my mind the only thing that could be controversial is if a 1-loss ACC champion Clemson, who is also the defending national champion (and finalist the year before that), were left out.
Either Virginia Tech or Miami could take the committee off the hook by winning out. If Tech is the one, they would have taken out both Miami and Clemson but still could be justified being placed in the dreaded #5 slot. If it's Miami, they would have taken out both Notre Dame and Clemson, and would replace ND in your top 4 as an undefeated P5 champ.
(11-01-2017 07:38 AM)ken d Wrote: [ -> ] (11-01-2017 07:10 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote: [ -> ]The only REAL problem I have is Clemson being #4. I, personally, would have had OU at 4, tOSU at 5, and Clemson at 6.
Sure they have some good wins, but have a BAD loss, much worse than OU or tOSU.
Sorry committee, but past performances should have zero bearing on this year's rankings.
I actually don't have a problem with Wisconsin at 9. What should have been a decent schedule turned into a less that stellar one thanks to several teams having down years. That being said, if Wisconsin takes care of their business and runs the table, they're in.
As much as it's SUPPOSED to be about the 4 best teams, there's no way leaving 3 of the 5 P5 conferences out of the playoffs won't result in a civil war.
I think in the end it will end up being......
1) Alabama
2) ND
3) OU
4) tOSU
And if those four were to all win out from here, then in my mind the only thing that could be controversial is if a 1-loss ACC champion Clemson, who is also the defending national champion (and finalist the year before that), were left out.
Either Virginia Tech or Miami could take the committee off the hook by winning out. If Tech is the one, they would have taken out both Miami and Clemson but still could be justified being placed in the dreaded #5 slot. If it's Miami, they would have taken out both Notre Dame and Clemson, and would replace ND in your top 4 as an undefeated P5 champ.
Don't worry about that - if Clemson wins out, they are in, no matter what. Book mark this so you can hold me accountable.
Oh, it would be so sweet seeing a twelve-game, 11-1 Notre Dame going in over a 12-1 Big Ten champion.
We'd see cfp expansion very soon. Because, let's face it...we have four because the Big Ten wanted that number and won't budge off of it. Until they aren't in it. Especially to Notre Dame.
I can only hope this holds up.
(10-31-2017 07:17 PM)otown Wrote: [ -> ]I am loving the top 4. Everyone on the outside will need help at this point. If Georgia loses to Bama in the SECCG, or vice versa..... I don't think either drops below 4. Having Big 12, PAC 12, and the B1G all miss out on the playoffs will be priceless LOL.
I think Bama
could be out. UGa gets a pass with the ND win, but Bama needs to win out, otherwise undefeated Wisconsin or OSU or OU will jump as a conference champ.
what's going to be interesting would be if Wisconsin drops a game and then beats Ohio St in the title game. I think there's a very real possibliity there that Wisconsin is left out in that case.
(11-01-2017 08:17 AM)stever20 Wrote: [ -> ]what's going to be interesting would be if Wisconsin drops a game and then beats Ohio St in the title game. I think there's a very real possibliity there that Wisconsin is left out in that case.
Depends on who they lose too. If they drop the game to Michigan who they runs the table, it's not necessarily a dagger, especially if Michigan beats tOSU.
If they pull a boner and lose to Minnesota or Iowa, they're history.
The only hope would be that several of the teams ranked above them were to drop the second game.