Wow, #1, nice find k2tigers, thanks.
"Barring one bad loss to Dallas, the Grizzlies look great. Marc Gasol is playing like an early MVP candidate and the youth on the roster is already coming into their own. Even Chandler Parsons is playing well. The "Grit 'N' Grind" era might be over but these Grizzlies have not skipped a beat."
Don't know who this Chris Barnewall fellow is, but won't complain.
It is early in the season, but the Griz are the surprise NBA team to date IMO. It is a star driven league and yet they have vanquished two teams with all-stars on their roster.
(10-30-2017 01:52 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: [ -> ]It is early in the season, but the Griz are the surprise NBA team to date IMO. It is a star driven league and yet they have vanquished two teams with all-stars on their roster.
The Rockets didn't have CP3 either game, right? And no Eric Gordon (in addition to no CP3) in the second game?
(10-30-2017 01:58 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 01:52 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: [ -> ]It is early in the season, but the Griz are the surprise NBA team to date IMO. It is a star driven league and yet they have vanquished two teams with all-stars on their roster.
The Rockets didn't have CP3 either game, right? And no Eric Gordon (in addition to no CP3) in the second game?
We're starting Andrew Harrison at the 2 and winning, therefore, any and all arguments about a superstar not playing for the opposing team is irrelevant (especially when they haven't lost a game without him all season, excluding to us, of course).
(10-30-2017 02:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 01:58 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 01:52 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: [ -> ]It is early in the season, but the Griz are the surprise NBA team to date IMO. It is a star driven league and yet they have vanquished two teams with all-stars on their roster.
The Rockets didn't have CP3 either game, right? And no Eric Gordon (in addition to no CP3) in the second game?
We're starting Andrew Harrison at the 2 and winning, therefore, any and all arguments about a superstar not playing for the opposing team is irrelevant (especially when they haven't lost a game without him all season, excluding to us, of course).
The Rockets had CP3 and Gordon in their win vs. GSW. Otherwise they have beaten Sac, Dallas, Philly, and Charlotte--who are a combined 7-18 this year.
And certainly you are not comparing not putting CP3 AND Eric Gordon (who averaged 25 ppg) on the floor vs. not having Ben McLemore (career 9ppg player).
(10-30-2017 02:16 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 01:58 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 01:52 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: [ -> ]It is early in the season, but the Griz are the surprise NBA team to date IMO. It is a star driven league and yet they have vanquished two teams with all-stars on their roster.
The Rockets didn't have CP3 either game, right? And no Eric Gordon (in addition to no CP3) in the second game?
We're starting Andrew Harrison at the 2 and winning, therefore, any and all arguments about a superstar not playing for the opposing team is irrelevant (especially when they haven't lost a game without him all season, excluding to us, of course).
The Rockets had CP3 and Gordon in their win vs. GSW. Otherwise they have beaten Sac, Dallas, Philly, and Charlotte--who are a combined 7-18 this year.
And certainly you are not comparing not putting CP3 AND Eric Gordon (who averaged 25 ppg) on the floor vs. not having Ben McLemore (career 9ppg player).
There you go with you stats manipulation again, Saluki.
Gordon is a career 16.7 ppg player. You use the career average ppg for McLemore (actually 9.4 ppg), and 6 the games this season for Gordon. Ridiculous. Why do you keep on doing this?
And yes, with CP3 and Gordon out, the Rockets were disadvantaged. But we had two starters and 3 total rotation guys out - JMyke, Selden and McLemore. JMyke especially is crucial to our team D, and Harrison is a negative player this year. Rockets were missing more, but it's much closer than you imply.
(10-30-2017 02:26 PM)Tigx Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:16 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 01:58 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 01:52 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: [ -> ]It is early in the season, but the Griz are the surprise NBA team to date IMO. It is a star driven league and yet they have vanquished two teams with all-stars on their roster.
The Rockets didn't have CP3 either game, right? And no Eric Gordon (in addition to no CP3) in the second game?
We're starting Andrew Harrison at the 2 and winning, therefore, any and all arguments about a superstar not playing for the opposing team is irrelevant (especially when they haven't lost a game without him all season, excluding to us, of course).
The Rockets had CP3 and Gordon in their win vs. GSW. Otherwise they have beaten Sac, Dallas, Philly, and Charlotte--who are a combined 7-18 this year.
And certainly you are not comparing not putting CP3 AND Eric Gordon (who averaged 25 ppg) on the floor vs. not having Ben McLemore (career 9ppg player).
There you go with you stats manipulation again, Saluki.
Gordon is a career 16.7 ppg player. You use the career average ppg for McLemore (actually 9.4 ppg), and 6 the games this season for Gordon. Ridiculous. Why do you keep on doing this?
And yes, with CP3 and Gordon out, the Rockets were disadvantaged. But we had two starters and 3 total rotation guys out - JMyke, Selden and McLemore. JMyke especially is crucial to our team D, and Harrison is a negative player this year. Rockets were missing more, but it's much closer than you imply.
BS. It's not stats manipulation. I'm sure the trade of off not having CP3 and Gordon is just a
bit more important than not having Green and McLemore.
Missing a backcourt of perennial all-star and solid NBA player who was off to a great start beats not having Green and McLemore. Selden played 13 games in the NBA last year. Averaged 5 ppg.
In any event, the Grizz are off to a great start.
(10-30-2017 02:16 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 01:58 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 01:52 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: [ -> ]It is early in the season, but the Griz are the surprise NBA team to date IMO. It is a star driven league and yet they have vanquished two teams with all-stars on their roster.
The Rockets didn't have CP3 either game, right? And no Eric Gordon (in addition to no CP3) in the second game?
We're starting Andrew Harrison at the 2 and winning, therefore, any and all arguments about a superstar not playing for the opposing team is irrelevant (especially when they haven't lost a game without him all season, excluding to us, of course).
The Rockets had CP3 and Gordon in their win vs. GSW. Otherwise they have beaten Sac, Dallas, Philly, and Charlotte--who are a combined 7-18 this year.
And certainly you are not comparing not putting CP3 AND Eric Gordon (who averaged 25 ppg) on the floor vs. not having Ben McLemore (career 9ppg player).
Um no, I'm not sure how one could deduce from me stating we're starting Andrew Harrison & winning to Houston not having a "superstar". I, personally, think it's remarkable we're winning with such a horrid player starting at our 2 along with playing Martin at the 4 AND not having an additional three rotation guys.
It goes to show how much of a team effort it truly takes.
We've beat Houston, twice, with one starter who would be lucky to start in Southaven on the floor & JM who was practically cut from the team. Not to mention our two "superstar" caliber starters combined for 14 points on Saturday night.
Not sure you have a leg to stand on with this one, seem to be grasping for straws.
(That's an idiom btw, just want to make sure people don't take it the wrong way like the Texans)
(10-30-2017 02:39 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:26 PM)Tigx Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:16 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 01:58 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ]The Rockets didn't have CP3 either game, right? And no Eric Gordon (in addition to no CP3) in the second game?
We're starting Andrew Harrison at the 2 and winning, therefore, any and all arguments about a superstar not playing for the opposing team is irrelevant (especially when they haven't lost a game without him all season, excluding to us, of course).
The Rockets had CP3 and Gordon in their win vs. GSW. Otherwise they have beaten Sac, Dallas, Philly, and Charlotte--who are a combined 7-18 this year.
And certainly you are not comparing not putting CP3 AND Eric Gordon (who averaged 25 ppg) on the floor vs. not having Ben McLemore (career 9ppg player).
There you go with you stats manipulation again, Saluki.
Gordon is a career 16.7 ppg player. You use the career average ppg for McLemore (actually 9.4 ppg), and 6 the games this season for Gordon. Ridiculous. Why do you keep on doing this?
And yes, with CP3 and Gordon out, the Rockets were disadvantaged. But we had two starters and 3 total rotation guys out - JMyke, Selden and McLemore. JMyke especially is crucial to our team D, and Harrison is a negative player this year. Rockets were missing more, but it's much closer than you imply.
BS. It's not stats manipulation. I'm sure the trade of off not having CP3 and Gordon is just a bit more important than not having Green and McLemore.
Obviously it is stats manipulation, and you do it all the time, almost always to try to make a negative point about the Grizz or Tubby. Just weird.
You used a 6 game, historically off the charts average for Gordon, and the career average for McLemore.
Houston won 55 games last year without CP3. Still had Harden and Ariza and Capela and Anderson when they played us. Grizz deservedly have gotten credit from just about everyone for these 2 wins.
(10-30-2017 02:40 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:16 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 01:58 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 01:52 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: [ -> ]It is early in the season, but the Griz are the surprise NBA team to date IMO. It is a star driven league and yet they have vanquished two teams with all-stars on their roster.
The Rockets didn't have CP3 either game, right? And no Eric Gordon (in addition to no CP3) in the second game?
We're starting Andrew Harrison at the 2 and winning, therefore, any and all arguments about a superstar not playing for the opposing team is irrelevant (especially when they haven't lost a game without him all season, excluding to us, of course).
The Rockets had CP3 and Gordon in their win vs. GSW. Otherwise they have beaten Sac, Dallas, Philly, and Charlotte--who are a combined 7-18 this year.
And certainly you are not comparing not putting CP3 AND Eric Gordon (who averaged 25 ppg) on the floor vs. not having Ben McLemore (career 9ppg player).
Um no, I'm not sure how one could deduce from me stating we're starting Andrew Harrison & winning to Houston not having a "superstar". I, personally, think it's remarkable we're winning with such a horrid player starting at our 2 along with playing Martin at the 4 AND not having an additional three rotation guys.
It goes to show how much of a team effort it truly takes.
We've beat Houston, twice, with one starter who would be lucky to start in Southaven on the floor & JM who was practically cut from the team. Not to mention our two "superstar" caliber starters combined for 14 points on Saturday night.
Not sure you have a leg to stand on with this one, seem to be grasping for straws.
(That's an idiom btw, just want to make sure people don't take it the wrong way like the Texans)
Whatever you think.
Harrison played last year. Yeah he sucks, but he's a rotation guy. Period. Let's not act like he wouldn't be getting minutes but for some guy who scored 8 ppg off the bench for lowly Sacramento being injured.
And yes, Memphis has beaten Houston twice. And that is really all that matters.
However, we were fortunate to catch them w/o CP3 in one game and without CP3 and Gordon in game 2. And if you really think that not having Gordon and CP3 is tantamount to missing Green and McLemore, well then I can't help you.
(10-30-2017 02:40 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:16 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 01:58 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 01:52 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote: [ -> ]It is early in the season, but the Griz are the surprise NBA team to date IMO. It is a star driven league and yet they have vanquished two teams with all-stars on their roster.
The Rockets didn't have CP3 either game, right? And no Eric Gordon (in addition to no CP3) in the second game?
We're starting Andrew Harrison at the 2 and winning, therefore, any and all arguments about a superstar not playing for the opposing team is irrelevant (especially when they haven't lost a game without him all season, excluding to us, of course).
The Rockets had CP3 and Gordon in their win vs. GSW. Otherwise they have beaten Sac, Dallas, Philly, and Charlotte--who are a combined 7-18 this year.
And certainly you are not comparing not putting CP3 AND Eric Gordon (who averaged 25 ppg) on the floor vs. not having Ben McLemore (career 9ppg player).
Um no, I'm not sure how one could deduce from me stating we're starting Andrew Harrison & winning to Houston not having a "superstar". I, personally, think it's remarkable we're winning with such a horrid player starting at our 2 along with playing Martin at the 4 AND not having an additional three rotation guys.
It goes to show how much of a team effort it truly takes.
We've beat Houston, twice, with one starter who would be lucky to start in Southaven on the floor & JM who was practically cut from the team. Not to mention our two "superstar" caliber starters combined for 14 points on Saturday night.
Not sure you have a leg to stand on with this one, seem to be grasping for straws.
(That's an idiom btw, just want to make sure people don't take it the wrong way like the Texans)
Well said, Unbreakable. But don't worry, he'll keep grasping.
(10-30-2017 02:39 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ]In any event, the Grizz are off to a great start.
This is the only thing that matters.
(10-30-2017 02:47 PM)Tigx Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:39 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:26 PM)Tigx Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:16 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:04 PM)Unbreakable04 Wrote: [ -> ]We're starting Andrew Harrison at the 2 and winning, therefore, any and all arguments about a superstar not playing for the opposing team is irrelevant (especially when they haven't lost a game without him all season, excluding to us, of course).
The Rockets had CP3 and Gordon in their win vs. GSW. Otherwise they have beaten Sac, Dallas, Philly, and Charlotte--who are a combined 7-18 this year.
And certainly you are not comparing not putting CP3 AND Eric Gordon (who averaged 25 ppg) on the floor vs. not having Ben McLemore (career 9ppg player).
There you go with you stats manipulation again, Saluki.
Gordon is a career 16.7 ppg player. You use the career average ppg for McLemore (actually 9.4 ppg), and 6 the games this season for Gordon. Ridiculous. Why do you keep on doing this?
And yes, with CP3 and Gordon out, the Rockets were disadvantaged. But we had two starters and 3 total rotation guys out - JMyke, Selden and McLemore. JMyke especially is crucial to our team D, and Harrison is a negative player this year. Rockets were missing more, but it's much closer than you imply.
BS. It's not stats manipulation. I'm sure the trade of off not having CP3 and Gordon is just a bit more important than not having Green and McLemore.
Obviously it is stats manipulation, and you do it all the time, almost always to try to make a negative point about the Grizz or Tubby. Just weird.
You used a 6 game, historically off the charts average for Gordon, and the career average for McLemore.
Houston won 55 games last year without CP3. Still had Harden and Ariza and Capela and Anderson when they played us. Grizz deservedly have gotten credit from just about everyone for these 2 wins.
WGAF about the "career" stat of McLemore. I can't use his "current" stats because he hasn't played. I didn't use his 8 ppg from last year either.
Gordon has stepped up in the absence of CP3 and is scoring more. Sorry I used the most cuurent, available metric to gauge his worth to his team THIS YEAR. Omigod!!
If the Greek Freak got hurt right now, would the Bucks be missing out on a 34 ppg (this year) player, a 23 ppg player (last year), or a 15 ppg player (career)?
(10-30-2017 02:51 PM)mempho_to_diego Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:39 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ]In any event, the Grizz are off to a great start.
This is the only thing that matters.
to some
obviously not to everyone
(10-30-2017 02:51 PM)mempho_to_diego Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:39 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ]In any event, the Grizz are off to a great start.
This is the only thing that matters.
to some
obviously not to everyone
(10-30-2017 02:52 PM)k2tigers Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:51 PM)mempho_to_diego Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:39 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ]In any event, the Grizz are off to a great start.
This is the only thing that matters.
to some
obviously not to everyone
Because there is (realistically) more to it.
(10-30-2017 02:52 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:47 PM)Tigx Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:39 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:26 PM)Tigx Wrote: [ -> ] (10-30-2017 02:16 PM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ]The Rockets had CP3 and Gordon in their win vs. GSW. Otherwise they have beaten Sac, Dallas, Philly, and Charlotte--who are a combined 7-18 this year.
And certainly you are not comparing not putting CP3 AND Eric Gordon (who averaged 25 ppg) on the floor vs. not having Ben McLemore (career 9ppg player).
There you go with you stats manipulation again, Saluki.
Gordon is a career 16.7 ppg player. You use the career average ppg for McLemore (actually 9.4 ppg), and 6 the games this season for Gordon. Ridiculous. Why do you keep on doing this?
And yes, with CP3 and Gordon out, the Rockets were disadvantaged. But we had two starters and 3 total rotation guys out - JMyke, Selden and McLemore. JMyke especially is crucial to our team D, and Harrison is a negative player this year. Rockets were missing more, but it's much closer than you imply.
BS. It's not stats manipulation. I'm sure the trade of off not having CP3 and Gordon is just a bit more important than not having Green and McLemore.
Obviously it is stats manipulation, and you do it all the time, almost always to try to make a negative point about the Grizz or Tubby. Just weird.
You used a 6 game, historically off the charts average for Gordon, and the career average for McLemore.
Houston won 55 games last year without CP3. Still had Harden and Ariza and Capela and Anderson when they played us. Grizz deservedly have gotten credit from just about everyone for these 2 wins.
WGAF about the "career" stat of McLemore. I can't use his "current" stats because he hasn't played. I didn't use his 8 ppg from last year either.
Gordon has stepped up in the absence of CP3 and is scoring more. Sorry I used the most cuurent, available metric to gauge his worth to his team THIS YEAR. Omigod!!
Total, 100% B.S. You got caught, again, playing games with statistics to make an invalid point.
Gordon is an oft-injured, 3 point shooting 6th man who the Rockets shopped this summer. Considered a disappointment for years in New Orleans, played 9, 42 and 45 total games in 3 of his 5 years in NO. You overrate his strong year last season. 16 career ppg versus 9.4 for McLemore. Not near the difference you imply.
And most would say that JMyke is our 3rd best and 3rd most important player.
Quit stretching the truth and people will quit calling you out for it.
as there is with most everything in life
enjoy the run,,,,,you'll have plenty of time to trash the team after losing streaks, and of course at the end of the season when they a) miss the playoffs or b) make the PO's, but don't win a 'ship