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(10-20-2017 06:48 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]Why stop at conference records? Seems odd.

Outside of Toledo last year, we've rarely ever had the same OOC Opponents. You guys spent a lot of time beating up on the SoCon, so it's hard to really quantify what an AState team from 10 years ago would have done playing an FCS schedule.
Fake news, App hasn't lost a G5 game since 2014. OOC results aren't close.
(10-21-2017 07:13 AM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]Fake news, App hasn't lost a G5 game since 2014. OOC results aren't close.

OK Let's look at G5 opponents
2014 App
Lost to 114 USM

2014 AState
Beat #42 Utah State

2015 App
Beat ODU rated 106 in Massey
Beat Wyoming rated 120

2015 AState
Lost to Toledo rated 28

2016 App
Beat #59 ODU
Beat #102 Akron

2016 AState
Lost to 48 Toledo
Lost to 102 USU

2017 App
Yet to play #126 UMass

2017 AState
Lost to #51 SMU

So App is 0-0 vs teams rated 58th or better
AState is 1-3 vs teams rated 58th or better
AState's worst loss to 102
App's to 114

App has ONE win vs a team rated above 100, #59 ODU
(10-21-2017 12:09 PM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-21-2017 07:13 AM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]Fake news, App hasn't lost a G5 game since 2014. OOC results aren't close.

OK Let's look at G5 opponents
2014 App
Lost to 114 USM

2014 AState
Beat #42 Utah State

2015 App
Beat ODU rated 106 in Massey
Beat Wyoming rated 120

2015 AState
Lost to Toledo rated 28

2016 App
Beat #59 ODU
Beat #102 Akron

2016 AState
Lost to 48 Toledo
Lost to 102 USU

2017 App
Yet to play #126 UMass

2017 AState
Lost to #51 SMU

So App is 0-0 vs teams rated 58th or better
AState is 1-3 vs teams rated 58th or better
AState's worst loss to 102
App's to 114

App has ONE win vs a team rated above 100, #59 Utah State


That’s as good a post that can be made.


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(10-21-2017 01:13 PM)WolfBird Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-21-2017 12:09 PM)arkstfan Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-21-2017 07:13 AM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]Fake news, App hasn't lost a G5 game since 2014. OOC results aren't close.

OK Let's look at G5 opponents
2014 App
Lost to 114 USM

2014 AState
Beat #42 Utah State

2015 App
Beat ODU rated 106 in Massey
Beat Wyoming rated 120

2015 AState
Lost to Toledo rated 28

2016 App
Beat #59 ODU
Beat #102 Akron

2016 AState
Lost to 48 Toledo
Lost to 102 USU

2017 App
Yet to play #126 UMass

2017 AState
Lost to #51 SMU

So App is 0-0 vs teams rated 58th or better
AState is 1-3 vs teams rated 58th or better
AState's worst loss to 102
App's to 114

App has ONE win vs a team rated above 100, #59 Utah State


That’s as good a post that can be made.


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Except the botched punch line.
(10-21-2017 07:13 AM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]Fake news, App hasn't lost a G5 game since 2014. OOC results aren't close.

Lol....Not only can't recognize good QB's but getting owned in other places too...Lol. You really should give up. Or try playing better OOC games. Then maybe you could talk rather than just making noise. Ahhhhh....it's tough when your team is king....
Guys you lose OOC games no matter their ranking, sorry you don't enjoy including those results...

And you're comparing yourselves to a team with three years into the FBS transition, congrats.
(10-21-2017 06:43 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]Guys you lose OOC games no matter their ranking, sorry you don't enjoy including those results...

And you're comparing yourselves to a team with three years into the FBS transition, congrats.

Thanks we appreciate it.
(10-21-2017 06:43 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]Guys you lose OOC games no matter their ranking, sorry you don't enjoy including those results...

And you're comparing yourselves to a team with three years into the FBS transition, congrats.

You do realize this was a thread about stAte getting a major contribution for naming rights to their facility. Then, some douchebag App fan chimes in..

(10-20-2017 11:28 AM)ComeBackShack Wrote: [ -> ]More like ugly water feature trickles closer

Who started the comparing game?

If your answer is a douchebag App fan, you're a winner.
If you recall my first post on this topic in a similar thread was congratulatory and noted many G5 programs could learn a lot from Ark St's administration.
This thread has nearly completely de-railed and the later posts have nothing to do with re-naming the convo......which I'll prolly still call it for the next 3 years or so.
Some people can't help but take the bait.

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(10-21-2017 06:43 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]Guys you lose OOC games no matter their ranking, sorry you don't enjoy including those results...

And you're comparing yourselves to a team with three years into the FBS transition, congrats.

Only reason you are only three years in is because your leadership considered it a step down.

Didn't know you were a special needs program needing an asterisk by any results you don't like.

How about we go back to the old rules where transition was a four year process or a program could be I-A with 50 scholarship players?
You did all that research about opponent rankings, did you also pull the App and Ark St rankings at year end, no asterisks needed.
(10-22-2017 03:26 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]You did all that research about opponent rankings, did you also pull the App and Ark St rankings at year end, no asterisks needed.
The last time stAte played you, stAte destroyed you on your home field. One would think that would be enough to shut you up.
(10-22-2017 08:46 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-22-2017 03:26 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]You did all that research about opponent rankings, did you also pull the App and Ark St rankings at year end, no asterisks needed.
The last time stAte played you, stAte destroyed you on your home field. One would think that would be enough to shut you up.

In all fairness Winston they did lose their center....
(10-22-2017 08:54 PM)OsageJ Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-22-2017 08:46 PM)WinstonTheWolf Wrote: [ -> ]
(10-22-2017 03:26 PM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]You did all that research about opponent rankings, did you also pull the App and Ark St rankings at year end, no asterisks needed.
The last time stAte played you, stAte destroyed you on your home field. One would think that would be enough to shut you up.

In all fairness Winston they did lose their center....

And, their crowd, by the end of the 3rd quarter.
I'll wait for those rankings, which were so important earlier in the discussion. One would think they would be enough to end this discussion.
(10-23-2017 06:31 AM)Saint3333 Wrote: [ -> ]I'll wait for those rankings, which were so important earlier in the discussion. One would think they would be enough to end this discussion.

If you think it is winning argument don't be lazy and shiftless and look it up.

None of which goes to the winning argument which is App has loaded up on G5 patsies and wins, AState has played stronger teams and mostly lost so the non-conference comparison is apples to oranges.

But if you think you have a winning argument, you aren't entitled to research welfare here.
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