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After 16 years dormant, the the black and gold of Wake Forest will travel the 90 miles up U.S. 421 to take on the black and gold of Appalachian State for the first time ever.

In the 80s and 90s, these two teams played all but two seasons, 1997 and 1999, all in Winston-Salem. The games were always close and App took their share of ACC scalps in that time.

The top four attended Wake Forest home games of the 1990s were versus App State. This game was a big deal to both fanbases.

Six of App State's seven wins over power conference teams since 1982 are against Wake Forest.

For the revival game, App has invoked the magic of Black Saturday to aid the Mountaineers against the Demon Deacons.

I love Appalachian and I never go into a game thinking we're going to lose....
But I am deeply, deeply concerned this one could go very, very badly. And heads will roll

There's just no way our offense is going to move the ball. None. Our offense looks so lackluster it's almost shocking. We're not going to take any shots, because we can't. Expect runs up the middle, stretch plays, and screens that never get more than 5 yards. Literally never. We are so limited on that end. If our game plan is to come out and try to run the ball to eat clock and hope the defense plays flawless, things are going to get out of hand.

(09-17-2017 11:51 PM)FidelCashflow18 Wrote: [ -> ]I love Appalachian and I never go into a game thinking we're going to lose....
But I am deeply, deeply concerned this one could go very, very badly. And heads will roll

There's just no way our offense is going to move the ball. None. Our offense looks so lackluster it's almost shocking. We're not going to take any shots, because we can't. Expect runs up the middle, stretch plays, and screens that never get more than 5 yards. Literally never. We are so limited on that end. If our game plan is to come out and try to run the ball to eat clock and hope the defense plays flawless, things are going to get out of hand.

That's LITERALLY how you've won so many games the last 2 years.

Why would your gameplan be different?

(09-18-2017 06:32 AM)eaglewraith Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-17-2017 11:51 PM)FidelCashflow18 Wrote: [ -> ]I love Appalachian and I never go into a game thinking we're going to lose....
But I am deeply, deeply concerned this one could go very, very badly. And heads will roll

There's just no way our offense is going to move the ball. None. Our offense looks so lackluster it's almost shocking. We're not going to take any shots, because we can't. Expect runs up the middle, stretch plays, and screens that never get more than 5 yards. Literally never. We are so limited on that end. If our game plan is to come out and try to run the ball to eat clock and hope the defense plays flawless, things are going to get out of hand.

That's LITERALLY how you've won so many games the last 2 years.

Why would your gameplan be different?

Eaglewrath,

I don't have the extreme view that my fellow App fan has, but I am concerned. The difference is that in prior years we could execute that game plan, and this year we are having issues. RB production is way off, and we are not just talking Georgia anymore. Our OL is still gelling, so it's hard to know what the potential of this unit is at this point.

We need to keep the hype down this week, and really try to address our challenges. Personally, I'd rather this thread had not been posted until Saturday morning. Hype down.

(09-18-2017 06:44 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-18-2017 06:32 AM)eaglewraith Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-17-2017 11:51 PM)FidelCashflow18 Wrote: [ -> ]I love Appalachian and I never go into a game thinking we're going to lose....
But I am deeply, deeply concerned this one could go very, very badly. And heads will roll

There's just no way our offense is going to move the ball. None. Our offense looks so lackluster it's almost shocking. We're not going to take any shots, because we can't. Expect runs up the middle, stretch plays, and screens that never get more than 5 yards. Literally never. We are so limited on that end. If our game plan is to come out and try to run the ball to eat clock and hope the defense plays flawless, things are going to get out of hand.

That's LITERALLY how you've won so many games the last 2 years.

Why would your gameplan be different?

Eaglewrath,

I don't have the extreme view that my fellow App fan has, but I am concerned. The difference is that in prior years we could execute that game plan, and this year we are having issues. RB production is way off, and we are not just talking Georgia anymore. Our OL is still gelling, so it's hard to know what the potential of this unit is at this point.

We need to keep the hype down this week, and really try to address our challenges. Personally, I'd rather this thread had not been posted until Saturday morning. Hype down.

I'm a little skeptical of our offense as well, but I really don't think a bunch of dudes getting hype on an messageboard is going to have an impact on the team's preparation this week.

We're not that important...

(09-18-2017 07:51 AM)HighCountry Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-18-2017 06:44 AM)GoAppsGo92 Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-18-2017 06:32 AM)eaglewraith Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-17-2017 11:51 PM)FidelCashflow18 Wrote: [ -> ]I love Appalachian and I never go into a game thinking we're going to lose....
But I am deeply, deeply concerned this one could go very, very badly. And heads will roll

There's just no way our offense is going to move the ball. None. Our offense looks so lackluster it's almost shocking. We're not going to take any shots, because we can't. Expect runs up the middle, stretch plays, and screens that never get more than 5 yards. Literally never. We are so limited on that end. If our game plan is to come out and try to run the ball to eat clock and hope the defense plays flawless, things are going to get out of hand.

That's LITERALLY how you've won so many games the last 2 years.

Why would your gameplan be different?

Eaglewrath,

I don't have the extreme view that my fellow App fan has, but I am concerned. The difference is that in prior years we could execute that game plan, and this year we are having issues. RB production is way off, and we are not just talking Georgia anymore. Our OL is still gelling, so it's hard to know what the potential of this unit is at this point.

We need to keep the hype down this week, and really try to address our challenges. Personally, I'd rather this thread had not been posted until Saturday morning. Hype down.

I'm a little skeptical of our offense as well, but I really don't think a bunch of dudes getting hype on an messageboard is going to have an impact on the team's preparation this week.

We're not that important...

Not taking about message boards only, but campus buzz, blogs, podcasts, media and social media. Everyone got way overhyped last year when Miami came to town. That collective buzz makes it to the team as well.

At least there is no danger of App being overconfident going into the Wake game. The offense has to open things up and/or start getting some production in the run game or this season is going to see a lot of games like Saturday. Maybe Wake will be overconfident after seeing the tape of the TSU game.

I pull for every conference mate OOC not matter who, even App and GSU because I am not such a fanatic I get conference rankings matter in the hundreds of thousands and rep is priceless.

However App getting Wake this year is the definition of bad timing. Wake has come out of its losing hibernation to make a brief appearance in the sun. At least that coach might be gone for the return trip. Last year App smokes them not getting the same vibe with this years team and WF is killing it. I like this is a home game and its an instate team. Cant call this one at all.

http://www.winsipedia.com/wake-forest

Please please prove me wrong but I'm predicting a definite loss. Something like 37-10.

(09-17-2017 11:51 PM)FidelCashflow18 Wrote: [ -> ]I love Appalachian and I never go into a game thinking we're going to lose....
But I am deeply, deeply concerned this one could go very, very badly. And heads will roll

There's just no way our offense is going to move the ball. None. Our offense looks so lackluster it's almost shocking. We're not going to take any shots, because we can't. Expect runs up the middle, stretch plays, and screens that never get more than 5 yards. Literally never. We are so limited on that end. If our game plan is to come out and try to run the ball to eat clock and hope the defense plays flawless, things are going to get out of hand.

This has all the makings of one of those posts I want to copy and save so that I can throw it back in your face after the game. No offense, but whose heads will roll, exactly? Are we going to fire people if we lose this game? Where did you go to college, Georgia Southern?

We may not win this game, but you are being a bit of a drama queen here.

(09-18-2017 09:57 AM)JCGSU Wrote: [ -> ]I pull for every conference mate OOC not matter who, even App and GSU because I am not such a fanatic I get conference rankings matter in the hundreds of thousands and rep is priceless.

However App getting Wake this year is the definition of bad timing. Wake has come out of its losing hibernation to make a brief appearance in the sun. At least that coach might be gone for the return trip. Last year App smokes them not getting the same vibe with this years team and WF is killing it. I like this is a home game and its an instate team. Cant call this one at all.

http://www.winsipedia.com/wake-forest

Sadly, this is our M.O. We schedule games when our opponents are down but when the time comes to play, we get them when their program is coming back up to full song.

(09-18-2017 10:29 AM)AppinATL Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-17-2017 11:51 PM)FidelCashflow18 Wrote: [ -> ]I love Appalachian and I never go into a game thinking we're going to lose....
But I am deeply, deeply concerned this one could go very, very badly. And heads will roll

There's just no way our offense is going to move the ball. None. Our offense looks so lackluster it's almost shocking. We're not going to take any shots, because we can't. Expect runs up the middle, stretch plays, and screens that never get more than 5 yards. Literally never. We are so limited on that end. If our game plan is to come out and try to run the ball to eat clock and hope the defense plays flawless, things are going to get out of hand.

This has all the makings of one of those posts I want to copy and save so that I can throw it back in your face after the game. No offense, but whose heads will roll, exactly? Are we going to fire people if we lose this game? Where did you go to college, Georgia Southern?

We may not win this game, but you are being a bit of a drama queen here.

I was thinking the same thing.

I mean, what he described was the blue print to your success so far since the rough start in 2014. Why would anyone change it now?

(09-17-2017 11:51 PM)FidelCashflow18 Wrote: [ -> ]I love Appalachian and I never go into a game thinking we're going to lose....
But I am deeply, deeply concerned this one could go very, very badly. And heads will roll

There's just no way our offense is going to move the ball. None. Our offense looks so lackluster it's almost shocking. We're not going to take any shots, because we can't. Expect runs up the middle, stretch plays, and screens that never get more than 5 yards. Literally never. We are so limited on that end. If our game plan is to come out and try to run the ball to eat clock and hope the defense plays flawless, things are going to get out of hand.

This is exactly the kind of post that comes from someone who knows nothing of football. The sky is falling oh me oh my. No we didn't look great Saturday but maybe we were looking ahead to the WF game and maybe our team wasn't well prepared for a much improved TX State team.
I saw the game and I think TX State executed a perfect game plan. Their quarterback was elusive and accurate enough to wear out our defense.
We may have to throw more passes than we want in the WF game in order to set up the run.
But come on man, you never know how teams are going to match up until game day, I just hope we are well prepared.

Current line is Wake at -4. As with Miami last year and Georgia this year, I feel that line is really low for how competitive (or lack thereof) App has typically been against P5 opponents.

I feel it will be a defensive battle for the first 2 quarters and then Wake will create separation in the 3rd quarter. Their defense is for real, unlike when the game was scheduled. Also, Dave Clawson was the coach of Richmond during Armanti's 6 interception game in the FCS Quarters. I see this game going similar to that.

(09-18-2017 01:43 PM)DeanoAPP Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-17-2017 11:51 PM)FidelCashflow18 Wrote: [ -> ]I love Appalachian and I never go into a game thinking we're going to lose....
But I am deeply, deeply concerned this one could go very, very badly. And heads will roll

There's just no way our offense is going to move the ball. None. Our offense looks so lackluster it's almost shocking. We're not going to take any shots, because we can't. Expect runs up the middle, stretch plays, and screens that never get more than 5 yards. Literally never. We are so limited on that end. If our game plan is to come out and try to run the ball to eat clock and hope the defense plays flawless, things are going to get out of hand.

This is exactly the kind of post that comes from someone who knows nothing of football. The sky is falling oh me oh my. No we didn't look great Saturday but maybe we were looking ahead to the WF game and maybe our team wasn't well prepared for a much improved TX State team.
I saw the game and I think TX State executed a perfect game plan. Their quarterback was elusive and accurate enough to wear out our defense.
We may have to throw more passes than we want in the WF game in order to set up the run.
But come on man, you never know how teams are going to match up until game day, I just hope we are well prepared.

Wake's defense is much better than Texas State's defense. Without Meadors and a QB that can throw the ball into tight windows, I don't expect this game to be much different than what was seen at Georgia.

The defense will likely stand out, but I expect Wake to cover the 4 points Vegas is giving them.

(09-18-2017 10:41 AM)eaglewraith Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-18-2017 10:29 AM)AppinATL Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-17-2017 11:51 PM)FidelCashflow18 Wrote: [ -> ]I love Appalachian and I never go into a game thinking we're going to lose....
But I am deeply, deeply concerned this one could go very, very badly. And heads will roll

There's just no way our offense is going to move the ball. None. Our offense looks so lackluster it's almost shocking. We're not going to take any shots, because we can't. Expect runs up the middle, stretch plays, and screens that never get more than 5 yards. Literally never. We are so limited on that end. If our game plan is to come out and try to run the ball to eat clock and hope the defense plays flawless, things are going to get out of hand.

This has all the makings of one of those posts I want to copy and save so that I can throw it back in your face after the game. No offense, but whose heads will roll, exactly? Are we going to fire people if we lose this game? Where did you go to college, Georgia Southern?

We may not win this game, but you are being a bit of a drama queen here.

I was thinking the same thing.

I mean, what he described was the blue print to your success so far since the rough start in 2014. Why would anyone change it now?

I don't mean anyone should get fired. I'm saying a lot of our fans genuinely think we are a top 40 team in the country and should have been ranked by the end of last year. If we want to talk like that, we need a win against a P5 team to show for. While I'm thrilled with the current status of our program, just dominating the Sun Belt isn't enough for a lot of fans. If we get blown out, fans will be disappointed.

(09-18-2017 01:43 PM)DeanoAPP Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-17-2017 11:51 PM)FidelCashflow18 Wrote: [ -> ]I love Appalachian and I never go into a game thinking we're going to lose....
But I am deeply, deeply concerned this one could go very, very badly. And heads will roll

There's just no way our offense is going to move the ball. None. Our offense looks so lackluster it's almost shocking. We're not going to take any shots, because we can't. Expect runs up the middle, stretch plays, and screens that never get more than 5 yards. Literally never. We are so limited on that end. If our game plan is to come out and try to run the ball to eat clock and hope the defense plays flawless, things are going to get out of hand.

This is exactly the kind of post that comes from someone who knows nothing of football. The sky is falling oh me oh my. No we didn't look great Saturday but maybe we were looking ahead to the WF game and maybe our team wasn't well prepared for a much improved TX State team.
I saw the game and I think TX State executed a perfect game plan. Their quarterback was elusive and accurate enough to wear out our defense.
We may have to throw more passes than we want in the WF game in order to set up the run.
But come on man, you never know how teams are going to match up until game day, I just hope we are well prepared.

I don't think the sky is falling at all. I just don't think we are beating Wake Forest and I'm afraid it could get bad. Will I pick us to win? Of course. In my head do I think it's going to happen? No.

For the guy asking why we wouldn't stick with that gameplan that's won us so many games, I'll tell you why. Yes, running the ball a lot and being conservative in the passing game has won us a lot of Sun Belt and G5 teams. That's great and a huge accomplishment. However, we haven't scored 20+ on a P5 program since that day in September in 2007. I'm not sure if we've scored more than 13 against one honestly. In the Sun Belt, our offensive line usually can dominate which allows us to just run it all over teams. But that just isn't going to get it done against a team from the ACC/SEC/B1G/etc. Wake will easily shut us down just like UGA, Tennessee, Miami, and Clemson all did. I guess we just don't have the personnel to beat teams from these big conferences, because game planning is always extremely conservative on the offensive side of the ball against them.

If we lose I still think we have a great shot at 10-2 and that would be a fantastic season. But it wouldn't be enough for some fans.

I'm not confident like i was going into this season thinking it was gonna be a pretty easy win, but I'm not willing to think wake will destroy us, I agree with the line in this one as it is pretty much a toss up. If texas state was a trap game we win, if app is really that much shakier then last year we lose.

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(09-18-2017 02:19 PM)Check Yosef Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not confident like i was going into this season thinking it was gonna be a pretty easy win, but I'm not willing to think wake will destroy us, I agree with the line in this one as it is pretty much a toss up. If texas state was a trap game we win, if app is really that much shakier then last year we lose.

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If you believe this game is a toss up you haven't been paying attention to Wake Forest the first few weeks of the season. The line would more appropriately be -13 or so for Wake given the way their defense is playing this year, coupled with App's lack of firepower on offense.

This will be a defensive game but eventually Wake will likely pull away.

(09-18-2017 02:23 PM)ericsaid Wrote: [ -> ]

(09-18-2017 02:19 PM)Check Yosef Wrote: [ -> ]I'm not confident like i was going into this season thinking it was gonna be a pretty easy win, but I'm not willing to think wake will destroy us, I agree with the line in this one as it is pretty much a toss up. If texas state was a trap game we win, if app is really that much shakier then last year we lose.

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If you believe this game is a toss up you haven't been paying attention to Wake Forest the first few weeks of the season. The line would more appropriately be -13 or so for Wake given the way their defense is playing this year, coupled with App's lack of firepower on offense.

This will be a defensive game but eventually Wake will likely pull away.

Wake has good momentum and looks to be better than last year's big bowl shellacking over Temple. I never would have thought WF would be for real...but they are.