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Quote:The average transgender soldier will spend 238 days recovering from sex change surgeries and unavailable to deploy, according to an Obama administration study.

The Trump administration's transgender ban places deployability as a determining factor into whether to admit transgender individuals into the military. The White House outlined guidelines to implement the ban within six months in a memo to Defense Secretary Jim Mattis, the Wall Street Journal reported Wednesday.

The ability to be deployed to war zones or bases around the world is an issue for transgender soldiers who undergo taxpayer-funded sex change operations, according to a study by the RAND Corporation.

The 2016 study was commissioned by the Obama administration, which favored opening the ranks to transgender individuals, and funded by the office of former secretary of defense Ash Carter.

The study found that, on average, transgender troops seeking basic sex-change operations would be nondeployable for 238 days, or 34 weeks out of a year. The figure amounts to 65 percent of one year.

Quote:As the Washington Free Beacon previously reported, transgender surgeries would cost the Pentagon $1.3 billion over 10 years, assuming roughly 8,200 transgender troops undergo taxpayer-funded sex-change operations.

By taking the low estimate from the RAND study of nondeployable time of 210 days, the 8,213 surgical transitions would lead to a total 1,724,730 days of nondeployable time, or 4,725 years.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/...-days/amp/
This is a point that really needs to be hammered home. A non deployable soldier due to an elective surgery is a waste of a uniform because readiness is everything.
(08-25-2017 05:41 PM)ArmyBlazer Wrote: [ -> ]This is a point that really needs to be hammered home. A non deployable soldier due to an elective surgery is a waste of a uniform.

Especially when they are only signing up for four years.
How long did it take for this lazy president to make this official. He still hasn't officially declared the opioid crisis an emergency. Vice news was right, "this president has a problem turning words into action." And North Korea just launched another object. So much for Kim showing Trump any respect.
I do not see how a trans individual would be fit for a combat situation.
There should be no average transgender soldier.
(08-25-2017 05:47 PM)cb4029 Wrote: [ -> ]How long did it take for this lazy president to make this official. He still hasn't officially declared the opioid crisis an emergency. Vice news was right, "this president has a problem turning words into action." And North Korea just launched another object. So much for Kim showing Trump any respect.

Does officially declaring drug addiction an emergency even need to be done? It's common sense.
(08-25-2017 05:47 PM)cb4029 Wrote: [ -> ]How long did it take for this lazy president to make this official. He still hasn't officially declared the opioid crisis an emergency. Vice news was right, "this president has a problem turning words into action." And North Korea just launched another object. So much for Kim showing Trump any respect.

Are you a hockey player?... There was so much deflection in that post I'd put you at all star level in front of the net..
Would bet the majority of trans only join to get the surgery paid for. Military shouldn't be footing the bill for any elective surgery. Especially one so horribly misguided as body mutilation for a mental problem.
(08-25-2017 05:47 PM)cb4029 Wrote: [ -> ]How long did it take for this lazy president to make this official. He still hasn't officially declared the opioid crisis an emergency. Vice news was right, "this president has a problem turning words into action." And North Korea just launched another object. So much for Kim showing Trump any respect.

They tested 5-6 nukes under other Presidents. Y you mad though, faggy Muslim 1/2 black President if gone?
So what's stopping this ban?

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(08-25-2017 05:47 PM)cb4029 Wrote: [ -> ]How long did it take for this lazy president to make this official. He still hasn't officially declared the opioid crisis an emergency. Vice news was right, "this president has a problem turning words into action." And North Korea just launched another object. So much for Kim showing Trump any respect.

Still waiting on Obama to renounce "radical Islamic terrorism". But, alas, people do not renounce those with shich they sympathize.
(08-25-2017 07:02 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-25-2017 05:47 PM)cb4029 Wrote: [ -> ]How long did it take for this lazy president to make this official. He still hasn't officially declared the opioid crisis an emergency. Vice news was right, "this president has a problem turning words into action." And North Korea just launched another object. So much for Kim showing Trump any respect.

Are you a hockey player?... There was so much deflection in that post I'd put you at all star level in front of the net..

Add pardoning a crooked cop to the list. 05-stirthepot
(08-25-2017 06:16 PM)dfarr Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-25-2017 05:47 PM)cb4029 Wrote: [ -> ]How long did it take for this lazy president to make this official. He still hasn't officially declared the opioid crisis an emergency. Vice news was right, "this president has a problem turning words into action." And North Korea just launched another object. So much for Kim showing Trump any respect.

Does officially declaring drug addiction an emergency even need to be done? It's common sense.

So you approve the talk a big game do nothing approach. Why have a press conference about it if it's common sense?
Post about the fact Obama knew that a soldier getting a voluntary procedure would get to sit out 25% of their hitch...

CB goes into:

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(08-25-2017 07:43 PM)cb4029 Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-25-2017 06:16 PM)dfarr Wrote: [ -> ]
(08-25-2017 05:47 PM)cb4029 Wrote: [ -> ]How long did it take for this lazy president to make this official. He still hasn't officially declared the opioid crisis an emergency. Vice news was right, "this president has a problem turning words into action." And North Korea just launched another object. So much for Kim showing Trump any respect.

Does officially declaring drug addiction an emergency even need to be done? It's common sense.

So you approve the talk a big game do nothing approach. Why have a press conference about it if it's common sense?

When I didn't get to keep my doctor you guys seemed to be fine with the big talk small action... Now you care?
(08-25-2017 07:30 PM)fsquid Wrote: [ -> ]So what's stopping this ban?

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Shouldn't be anything. Mental illness is already covered.

Just checked "Medical Conditions That May Prevent You From Joining the Military"

http://www.military.com/join-armed-force...tions.html

Quote:Below you will find details from the Army's "Standards of Medical Fitness." These standards generally apply to all other branches as well. Remember that most of these conditions are NOT necessarily permanently disqualifying, but they are red flags!

If you have had a medical complication at any time in your life that is mentioned here, then you need to tell your recruiter. They will tell you whether your condition can be waivered, or if it is permanently disqualifying. Remember that if you do not get an official waiver and your condition is later discovered, you will most likely be dishonorably discharged for fraudulent enlistment. The choice is yours.

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Psychosexual Conditions
The causes for rejection for appointment, enlistment, and induction are transsexualism, exhibitionism, transvestitism, voyeurism, and other paraphilias.
So CB back on topic... You're cool with the army (1) paying for a voluntary procedure and (2) having the soldiers who get it sitting on the sidelines for a year?
(08-25-2017 07:49 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote: [ -> ]So CB back on topic... You're cool with the army (1) paying for a voluntary procedure and (2) having the soldiers who get it sitting on the sidelines for a year?

No. It shouldn't even be an option when you're active.
Also listed on that site:

Quote:Genitalia
The causes for rejection for appointment, enlistment, and induction are:

a. Female genitalia.

(5) Hermaphroditism.

(13) Major abnormalities and defects of the genitalia such as a change of sex. A history thereof, or dysfunctional residuals from surgical correction of these conditions.

b. Male genitalia.

c. Major abnormalities and defects of the genitalia, such as a change of sex, a history thereof, or dysfunctional residuals from surgical correction of these conditions.
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