http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-...le/2632500
Shockingly high crime numbers by illegal immigrants. First sounds a little high, but maybe so....
1) 95% of arrest warrants in Los Angeles are for illegal immigrants.
2) 75% of most wanted in LA, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal immigrants.
3) 53% of burglaries in CA, NV, AZ, NM and TX are by illegals.
4) 25% of CA prisoners are Mexican nationals (legal or illegal).
Article also notes that Clinton, Obama and Biden all voted for a wall in Yuma, Arizona in 2007 that reduced illegal border crossings by 70%.
Shocking high?....Well... When your first act on US soil is a crime.....
(08-25-2017 02:00 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-...le/2632500
Shockingly high crime numbers by illegal immigrants. First sounds a little high, but maybe so....
1) 95% of arrest warrants in Los Angeles are for illegal immigrants.
2) 75% of most wanted in LA, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal immigrants.
3) 53% of burglaries in CA, NV, AZ, NM and TX are by illegals.
4) 25% of CA prisoners are Mexican nationals (legal or illegal).
Article also notes that Clinton, Obama and Biden all voted for a wall in Yuma, Arizona in 2007 that reduced illegal border crossings by 70%.
That is why all of is Trump is racist BS is 100% political. Of course the MSM will never report that Hillary and Obama voted for the Secure Fence Act.
Wait, weren't we told recently by one of our liberal brethren here that crime among illegal immigrants was nowhere near as bad as it appeared?
Well, every illegal starts with one crime on their records...
Nothing to see here. These are all just workers wanting to support their families.
My hairy arse.
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And for the record, ANY crime committed by an illegal is one crime the American citizens should not have to deal. "Rates" do not matter when you are here illegally in the first place. This "undocumented bull****" is just PC crap.
(08-25-2017 10:12 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote: [ -> ]Nothing to see here. These are all just workers wanting to support their families.
My hairy arse.
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And for the record, ANY crime committed by an illegal is one crime the American citizens should not have to deal. "Rates" do not matter when you are here illegally in the first place. This "undocumented bull****" is just PC crap.
The article notes that an increasing number are criminals trying to escape the Mexican police.
Curious, did any of you bother to click on the link in the article that supposedly backs up these reported figures?
Why don't you and report back as to what you find?
(08-28-2017 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Curious, did any of you bother to click on the link in the article that supposedly backs up these reported figures?
Why don't you and report back as to what you find?
I find links to sites like the FBI crime stats and the DHS.... and quotes from them.
Of course I also find links to some troubling websites... but when you 'follow the information' you get to more reasonable links... i.e. that 97% of illegal immigrants who enter clandestinely so so across the southern border.... a figure that is clearly targeted somewhat in that this ignores the large numbers of 'students' who overstay their visas etc, because they don't enter clandestinely, but nothing about a border wall means you can't also go after those people.... and it means we don't really need a northern border wall.
Rather than be smug, why don't you click the link and tell us what YOU see?
(08-25-2017 02:00 PM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/trump-...le/2632500
Shockingly high crime numbers by illegal immigrants. First sounds a little high, but maybe so....
1) 95% of arrest warrants in Los Angeles are for illegal immigrants.
2) 75% of most wanted in LA, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal immigrants.
3) 53% of burglaries in CA, NV, AZ, NM and TX are by illegals.
4) 25% of CA prisoners are Mexican nationals (legal or illegal).
Article also notes that Clinton, Obama and Biden all voted for a wall in Yuma, Arizona in 2007 that reduced illegal border crossings by 70%.
The author does not do a responsible job of backing up her stats. The one she leads off with seems to be a recurring theme in emails that have circulated for nearly 15 years, and she just throws a link to the FBI's crime report as a citation - that seems like an act of pure laziness. One explanation I've seen about that statistic is that outstanding warrants are for those who cannot be located... they may have returned to their country of origin or simply evaded arrest because they can't be located. That's a far cry from what the author implies - that 95% of murders in Los Angeles are done by illegal immigrants.
opinion.latimes.com/opinionla/2007/04/may_day_mythbus.html
Quote:"Fact" 2: 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens. LAT citations: May 15, 2005 — "According to Heather MacDonald of the Manhattan Institute, 95% of the hundreds of outstanding homicide warrants (and 60% of outstanding felony warrants) in L.A. are for illegal immigrants." Similar citations: January 19, 2004 Factual basis: An outstanding warrant is quite a different beast than a regular warrant, so this "fact" left out the key word. We did some more checking on the outstanding warrants point itself. MacDonald stated this in a 2004 City Journal article, and in testimony before the House of Representatives in spring 2005, noting that this came to 1,200-1,500 warrants. One LAPD officer cited the same factoid in the National Review earlier this year, saying that it's specific to "the first half of 2004". But Jane Robison, press secretary for the Los Angeles County District Attorney's Office, told us that the D.A. does not keep track of this number; a representative with Detective Headquarters said the same.
(08-28-2017 10:40 AM)Hambone10 Wrote: [ -> ] (08-28-2017 09:26 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]Curious, did any of you bother to click on the link in the article that supposedly backs up these reported figures?
Why don't you and report back as to what you find?
I find links to sites like the FBI crime stats and the DHS.... and quotes from them.
Of course I also find links to some troubling websites... but when you 'follow the information' you get to more reasonable links... i.e. that 97% of illegal immigrants who enter clandestinely so so across the southern border.... a figure that is clearly targeted somewhat in that this ignores the large numbers of 'students' who overstay their visas etc, because they don't enter clandestinely, but nothing about a border wall means you can't also go after those people.... and it means we don't really need a northern border wall.
Rather than be smug, why don't you click the link and tell us what YOU see?
Why don't you be honest for a change and call out this **** article for what it is, ****. It does not back up ONE of her stats.
But do you challenge the author or the OP? No, you challenge me for being smug.
Even Bullet doesn't believe the article in the thread that was started.
I don't believe there's anyone here who does not want a secure border and/or more agents and an immigration bill.
What I and many others don't feel we need though is some preposterous wall that will cost a fortune and not really solve much.
"...maybe a rope?" ~ DJT
One thing we do know is that illegal aliens comprise over 91% (41,554 of 45,493) of foreign-born federal prison inmates.
They make up 22% of the total federal prison population.
BY LYDIA WHEELER - 05/02/17 03:57 PM EDT
The Hill
DOJ releases data on incarceration rates of illegal immigrants
Quote:Of the 45,493 foreign-born inmates in the federal prison system made up of 188,658 inmates, the Justice Department said 3,939 are U.S. citizens.
(08-28-2017 01:20 PM)umbluegray Wrote: [ -> ]One thing we do know is that illegal aliens comprise over 91% (41,554 of 45,493) of foreign-born federal prison inmates.
They make up 22% of the total federal prison population.
BY LYDIA WHEELER - 05/02/17 03:57 PM EDT
The Hill
DOJ releases data on incarceration rates of illegal immigrants
Quote:Of the 45,493 foreign-born inmates in the federal prison system made up of 188,658 inmates, the Justice Department said 3,939 are U.S. citizens.
I don't think you're reading this correctly. That doesn't say that they are all illegal aliens. It just says they are foreign born.
Do you have a link to the actual DOJ report?
(08-28-2017 01:18 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: [ -> ]I don't believe there's anyone here who does not want a secure border and/or more agents and an immigration bill.
What I and many others don't feel we need though is some preposterous wall that will cost a fortune and not really solve much.
"...maybe a rope?" ~ DJT
The cost of a wall is significantly less than the annual cost of illegal aliens.
Different figures have been tossed around, some in excess of $100B. Even if you go with a low estimate you're looking at $85 BILLION ANNUALLY.
Quote:It’s uncertain how much immigrants in the United States illegally cost taxpayers, but FAIR’s data is largely based on broad estimates and assumptions. Another report by a conservative think tank pegged the amount at about $85 billion a year. Reports by pro-immigration or neutral groups have come in significantly lower, and other reports have been inconclusive.
Donald Trump says illegal immigration costs $113 billion a year
PolitiFact
By Miriam Valverde
Thursday, September 1st, 2016, 1:22 p.m.
