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And told the audience to vote for him. How can it get any worse for you? Remember that?

https://apnews.com/7ccd3eb307dd4a4583cea..._medium=AP



Have to pay for those tax cuts somehow. The optics on this are pathetic.
Remember when Obama said pass Obamacare and there would be a $2500 saving for a family of 4. Pass Obamacare and you can keep your doctor and your plan. Remember those???



Remember when it was Russians and we were buckling up?
(07-02-2017 09:11 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Remember when it was Russians and we were buckling up?

I remember...Mach is the smartest man on the board though. We always have to remember that fact. We are just mathematically challenged peons compared to his brilliance.
Good. Pay for your own heat and I'll pay for mine. If you can't make the payment, sell your iPhone or xBox.

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(07-02-2017 09:07 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]And told the audience to vote for him. How can it get any worse for you? Remember that?

https://apnews.com/7ccd3eb307dd4a4583cea..._medium=AP



Have to pay for those tax cuts somehow. The optics on this are pathetic.

Remember when Trump said he would send Federal help to fight the slaughter in Chicago that Obama could have cared less about....

Chicago to get more ATF agents to fight gun violence
I member...
(07-02-2017 09:21 AM)usmbacker Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-02-2017 09:07 AM)Machiavelli Wrote: [ -> ]And told the audience to vote for him. How can it get any worse for you? Remember that?

https://apnews.com/7ccd3eb307dd4a4583cea..._medium=AP



Have to pay for those tax cuts somehow. The optics on this are pathetic.

Remember when Trump said he would send Federal help to fight the slaughter in Chicago that Obama could have cared less about....

Chicago to get more ATF agents to fight gun violence
They don't want or care about improving their community. All they want is to not have to be responsible for anything.

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The sad part of this is that we have people retiring that failed to plan for retirement on their own... and we have a SS system that is nothing but a Ponzi scheme that gives a horrible ROI. If you retire and can not bring in a minimum of 80% of your working income through personal investment supplemented with SS?....You are likely to face problems.

We need SS reform and tax reform to help with this situation. Give young people options to invest a portion of their SS in safe but higher yield instruments and we "real" middle class tax cuts to put money back in their hands so they can save.

Id like to see a personal SS account that one could actually add additional dollars to tax free like a 401k.
(07-02-2017 09:26 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]The sad part of this is that we have people retiring that failed to plan for retirement on their own... and we have a SS system that is nothing but a Ponzi scheme that gives a horrible ROI. If you retire and can not bring in a minimum of 80% of your working income through personal investment supplemented with SS?....You are likely to face problems.

We need SS reform and tax reform to help with this situation. Give young people options to invest a portion of their SS in safe but higher yield instruments and we "real" middle class tax cuts to put money back in their hands so they can save.

Id like to see a personal SS account that one could actually add additional dollars to tax free like a 401k.

W. tried that and it got demagogued to death. That simply is not going to happen. Not in the next 10-15 years anyway.
(07-02-2017 09:23 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]I member...

Member Chewbacca?
I bet Hillary wishes she remembers campaigning in Detroit.
(07-02-2017 09:37 AM)bullet Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-02-2017 09:26 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]The sad part of this is that we have people retiring that failed to plan for retirement on their own... and we have a SS system that is nothing but a Ponzi scheme that gives a horrible ROI. If you retire and can not bring in a minimum of 80% of your working income through personal investment supplemented with SS?....You are likely to face problems.

We need SS reform and tax reform to help with this situation. Give young people options to invest a portion of their SS in safe but higher yield instruments and we "real" middle class tax cuts to put money back in their hands so they can save.

Id like to see a personal SS account that one could actually add additional dollars to tax free like a 401k.

W. tried that and it got demagogued to death. That simply is not going to happen. Not in the next 10-15 years anyway.

I think the issue could resonate now. Young people like my daughter understand how bad the SS system really is.
(07-02-2017 10:08 AM)gdunn Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-02-2017 09:23 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]I member...

Member Chewbacca?

Again? I member.
(07-02-2017 10:28 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote: [ -> ]I bet Hillary wishes she remembers campaigning in Detroit.

03-lmfao03-lmfao+3
(07-02-2017 09:26 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]Id like to see a personal SS account that one could actually add additional dollars to tax free like a 401k.

If only such a vehicle existed.

https://investor.vanguard.com/ira/roth-ira
(07-02-2017 10:28 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote: [ -> ]I bet Hillary wishes she remembers campaigning in Detroit.

03-lmfao
(07-02-2017 09:12 AM)usmbacker Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-02-2017 09:11 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote: [ -> ]Remember when it was Russians and we were buckling up?

I remember...Mach is the smartest man on the board though. We always have to remember that fact. We are just mathematically challenged peons compared to his brilliance.

Pretty sure it's "rubes", not peons.

Just to keep the record straight.

But remember fellow rubes, time ta buckle yer up! 80% chance tha J3st3r isa comin'!
(07-02-2017 10:28 AM)BcatMatt13 Wrote: [ -> ]I bet Hillary wishes she remembers campaigning in Detroit.
She didn't have the stamina. Her campaign weekly schedule consisted of 1 event and 4-day weekends. Anything more grueling than that and the Parkinson's shows up.

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(07-02-2017 11:30 AM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]
(07-02-2017 09:26 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: [ -> ]Id like to see a personal SS account that one could actually add additional dollars to tax free like a 401k.

If only such a vehicle existed.

https://investor.vanguard.com/ira/roth-ira

it's called a roth ira....

will it really matter if the usd tanks or they raid that too???
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