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Indiana spent $2.5 million to play in the Foster Farms Bowl last December, but only a handful of their fans made the trip to California for the game. According to a report by The Herald-Times’ Michael Reschke, Indiana sold only 672 tickets out of their allotment of 7,000. (That’s under 10 percent.)

The Hoosiers ate a little under $100,000 in unsold tickets and dumped the vast majority of the cost on the Big Ten, which picked up a $407,557 tab for about 5,300 tickets.

Thanks to the Big Ten’s contribution, the Hoosiers' bowl trip won’t be a financial negative. The school will net about $100,000. 

From The Herald-Times:
...It cost IU more than $2.5 million to participate in the 2016 Foster Farms Bowl. That’s about $350,000 more than IU’s official payout. But when the Big Ten’s contribution for unsold tickets is factored in, IU actually received a payout of more than $2.6 million.

This is becoming a regular problem for Indiana. Last season, well over half of their ticket allotment for the Pinstripe Bowl went unsold. Via The Herald-Times:
This is the second year in a row the conference has helped IU cover the cost of unsold bowl game tickets. More than 4,000 of the 7,500 tickets allotted to IU for the 2015 New Era Pinstripe Bowl went unsold. IU only absorbed 950 of those unsold tickets, at a cost of about $84,000. The conference paid about $345,000 to cover the cost of 3,369 unsold tickets.

YOU THINK SOME ACC TEAMS DON'T TRAVEL WELL?
WOW!
That is definitely bad, but also driven by the fact that outside of the handful of major bowls you can typically get better tickets for cheaper on the secondary market than you do by buying through your own school allotment.

Of course, buying through the allotment helps your school and typically will get you priority points in your school's given booster club organization. But if you aren't a season ticket holder and/or frequent buyer through the school athletic department then those priority points are worthless.
I heard that Ohio State and Michigan are sick of carrying the rest of the league, so they're looking to join the ACC.

I can only assume that the B12 would take Nebraska (back) and Iowa.

And the SEC might make a move on Purdue and Penn State.

Remember, you heard it here first.
Seems like a misfit to have PAC v. B1G in the Bay Area.

How many tickets did Nebraska use in 2015? How many did Maryland use in 2014?

Attendance figures were:
2014 - Stanford v. Maryland = 34.7K
2013 - BYU v. Washington = 34K (Fight Hunger Bowl)
2015 - UCLA v. Nebraska = 33K
2016 - Utah v. Indiana = 27K

Not surprising to see that the highest attendance includes a local team.
(06-15-2017 08:02 AM)tcufrog86 Wrote: [ -> ]That is definitely bad, but also driven by the fact that outside of the handful of major bowls you can typically get better tickets for cheaper on the secondary market than you do by buying through your own school allotment.

This is true. This past national championship game is one of the rare times when I saved a ton of money by pre-ordering my tickets through IPTAY versus waiting and purchasing them on the secondary market. Now, the location of the game relative to Clemson and Alabama really helped drive up the prices on the secondary market due to the demand.

However, it is normally cheaper to purchase off of the secondary market. Though, as you mentioned, I almost always get my bowl tickets through IPTAY because it feels like the right thing to do and the price difference is normally not enough to give me buyer's remorse.
(06-15-2017 10:53 AM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]I heard that Ohio State and Michigan are sick of carrying the rest of the league, so they're looking to join the ACC.

I can only assume that the B12 would take Nebraska (back) and Iowa.

And the SEC might make a move on Purdue and Penn State.

Remember, you heard it here first.

Like coming to the ACC would change that?

And a Syracuse fan made this joke?


03-lmfao
(06-16-2017 01:52 AM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-15-2017 10:53 AM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]I heard that Ohio State and Michigan are sick of carrying the rest of the league, so they're looking to join the ACC.

I can only assume that the B12 would take Nebraska (back) and Iowa.

And the SEC might make a move on Purdue and Penn State.

Remember, you heard it here first.

Like coming to the ACC would change that?

And a Syracuse fan made this joke?

03-lmfao

While SU may not travel to bowls as well as Clemson, Syracuse does travel better than folks give them credit for. I have read that they sent up to 25,000 to each of their Pinstripe Bowl appearances and almost 15,000 for its last Gator Bowl appearance. If there were more bowls within driving distance, SU would have a better rep for traveling well to bowls.
(06-16-2017 01:52 AM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-15-2017 10:53 AM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]I heard that Ohio State and Michigan are sick of carrying the rest of the league, so they're looking to join the ACC.

I can only assume that the B12 would take Nebraska (back) and Iowa.

And the SEC might make a move on Purdue and Penn State.

Remember, you heard it here first.

Like coming to the ACC would change that?

And a Syracuse fan made this joke?


03-lmfao

Ah, there's that famous Clemson sense of humor!
It would be interesting to see a study of #fans traveling vs. distance from campus. Southern teams carry more fans to Southern bowls, but do West Coast teams do the same? There aren't many Northern bowls, but there are a few...
(06-16-2017 08:26 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: [ -> ]It would be interesting to see a study of #fans traveling vs. distance from campus. Southern teams carry more fans to Southern bowls, but do West Coast teams do the same? There aren't many Northern bowls, but there are a few...

The NE 100% has an issue w/ football fan base sizes and intensity, but distance/climate is a huge factor as well. Duke traveled to surprisingly well to the Pinstripe Bowl (good on them!), but southern teams often look terrible when they have to travel north (much like northern teams have issues going south).
(06-16-2017 08:42 AM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-16-2017 08:26 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: [ -> ]It would be interesting to see a study of #fans traveling vs. distance from campus. Southern teams carry more fans to Southern bowls, but do West Coast teams do the same? There aren't many Northern bowls, but there are a few...

The NE 100% has an issue w/ football fan base sizes and intensity, but distance/climate is a huge factor as well. Duke traveled to surprisingly well to the Pinstripe Bowl (good on them!), but southern teams often look terrible when they have to travel north (much like northern teams have issues going south).

Also depends on the program, there are a lot of Big 10 teams that routinely do very well showing for bowl games, NCAA basketball tournament etc... no matter the location.

Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State, Wisconsin, Iowa, and Michigan State all typically show well. But there are a couple other things at play here too, (1) that traveling to somewhere warm is attractive in late December or January and (2) all these schools have big grad programs where students are more likely to both not be from the region originally and are more likely to move elsewhere and (3) there are a lot of Big 10 alums who have retired and/or have 2nd homes in places like Florida, Texas, and Arizona (places where the Big 10 have a lot of bowl games).

You certainly don't have as much of the same dynamic for southern teams traveling north, not many Ole Miss fans retire or have 2nd homes in a place like Detroit where there is a northern bowl game.
Can you imagine a trailer park full of Mississippi State fans in Detroit?

I shudder to think about it!
(06-16-2017 08:17 AM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]Ah, there's that famous Clemson sense of humor!

Let's don't generalize!
(06-16-2017 11:42 AM)Schema Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-16-2017 08:17 AM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]Ah, there's that famous Clemson sense of humor!

Let's don't generalize!

I genuinely wish I was.
(06-16-2017 08:17 AM)cuseroc Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-16-2017 01:52 AM)Kaplony Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-15-2017 10:53 AM)nzmorange Wrote: [ -> ]I heard that Ohio State and Michigan are sick of carrying the rest of the league, so they're looking to join the ACC.

I can only assume that the B12 would take Nebraska (back) and Iowa.

And the SEC might make a move on Purdue and Penn State.

Remember, you heard it here first.

Like coming to the ACC would change that?

And a Syracuse fan made this joke?

03-lmfao

While SU may not travel to bowls as well as Clemson, Syracuse does travel better than folks give them credit for. I have read that they sent up to 25,000 to each of their Pinstripe Bowl appearances and almost 15,000 for its last Gator Bowl appearance. If there were more bowls within driving distance, SU would have a better rep for traveling well to bowls.

Plus Cuse travels to hoops games. I was at the GTech game last year and we had a 1/3rd of the crowd. When I was at Arkansas about 7 years ago...a couple Arkansas fans said we showed better than any team in the SEC outside Kentucky and Mizzou in recent memory.

When Cuse fans can easily buy tickets for weekend games we show in basketball far better than 98% of the teams in Div 1.
"The more things change, the more they stay the same."

In 1993 IU Coach Bill Mallory went on local television begging IU fans to buy tickets to the Independence Bowl against VaTech. He believed not selling tickets to the game would make it difficult for IU to get invites to bowl games.

Coach Mallory was right. IU stayed home the next season in 1994 with a 6-5 record, Coach Mallory left after two losing seasons in 1996 and IU didn't go to a bowl game again until 2007.

IU fans simply don't travel for football.
CJ
(06-15-2017 07:48 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.yardbarker.com/college_footba...6_24166468

Indiana spent $2.5 million to play in the Foster Farms Bowl last December, but only a handful of their fans made the trip to California for the game. According to a report by The Herald-Times’ Michael Reschke, Indiana sold only 672 tickets out of their allotment of 7,000. (That’s under 10 percent.)

The Hoosiers ate a little under $100,000 in unsold tickets and dumped the vast majority of the cost on the Big Ten, which picked up a $407,557 tab for about 5,300 tickets.

Thanks to the Big Ten’s contribution, the Hoosiers' bowl trip won’t be a financial negative. The school will net about $100,000. 

From The Herald-Times:
...It cost IU more than $2.5 million to participate in the 2016 Foster Farms Bowl. That’s about $350,000 more than IU’s official payout. But when the Big Ten’s contribution for unsold tickets is factored in, IU actually received a payout of more than $2.6 million.

This is becoming a regular problem for Indiana. Last season, well over half of their ticket allotment for the Pinstripe Bowl went unsold. Via The Herald-Times:
This is the second year in a row the conference has helped IU cover the cost of unsold bowl game tickets. More than 4,000 of the 7,500 tickets allotted to IU for the 2015 New Era Pinstripe Bowl went unsold. IU only absorbed 950 of those unsold tickets, at a cost of about $84,000. The conference paid about $345,000 to cover the cost of 3,369 unsold tickets.

YOU THINK SOME ACC TEAMS DON'T TRAVEL WELL?
WOW!

This is a good example of why the bowl games need to be replaced by expanded conference playoffs.
(06-21-2017 10:25 PM)Win5002 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-15-2017 07:48 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.yardbarker.com/college_footba...6_24166468

Indiana spent $2.5 million to play in the Foster Farms Bowl last December, but only a handful of their fans made the trip to California for the game. According to a report by The Herald-Times’ Michael Reschke, Indiana sold only 672 tickets out of their allotment of 7,000. (That’s under 10 percent.)

The Hoosiers ate a little under $100,000 in unsold tickets and dumped the vast majority of the cost on the Big Ten, which picked up a $407,557 tab for about 5,300 tickets.

Thanks to the Big Ten’s contribution, the Hoosiers' bowl trip won’t be a financial negative. The school will net about $100,000. 

From The Herald-Times:
...It cost IU more than $2.5 million to participate in the 2016 Foster Farms Bowl. That’s about $350,000 more than IU’s official payout. But when the Big Ten’s contribution for unsold tickets is factored in, IU actually received a payout of more than $2.6 million.

This is becoming a regular problem for Indiana. Last season, well over half of their ticket allotment for the Pinstripe Bowl went unsold. Via The Herald-Times:
This is the second year in a row the conference has helped IU cover the cost of unsold bowl game tickets. More than 4,000 of the 7,500 tickets allotted to IU for the 2015 New Era Pinstripe Bowl went unsold. IU only absorbed 950 of those unsold tickets, at a cost of about $84,000. The conference paid about $345,000 to cover the cost of 3,369 unsold tickets.

YOU THINK SOME ACC TEAMS DON'T TRAVEL WELL?
WOW!

This is a good example of why the bowl games need to be replaced by expanded conference playoffs.

I think we end up with expanded conference playoffs if we see conferences getting to 16, 18, or even 20 teams.

Even at 14 teams the schedules across the conferences members can be very unbalanced in toughness, will become even more so in larger leagues.
(06-22-2017 07:52 AM)tcufrog86 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-21-2017 10:25 PM)Win5002 Wrote: [ -> ]
(06-15-2017 07:48 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.yardbarker.com/college_footba...6_24166468

Indiana spent $2.5 million to play in the Foster Farms Bowl last December, but only a handful of their fans made the trip to California for the game. According to a report by The Herald-Times’ Michael Reschke, Indiana sold only 672 tickets out of their allotment of 7,000. (That’s under 10 percent.)

The Hoosiers ate a little under $100,000 in unsold tickets and dumped the vast majority of the cost on the Big Ten, which picked up a $407,557 tab for about 5,300 tickets.

Thanks to the Big Ten’s contribution, the Hoosiers' bowl trip won’t be a financial negative. The school will net about $100,000. 

From The Herald-Times:
...It cost IU more than $2.5 million to participate in the 2016 Foster Farms Bowl. That’s about $350,000 more than IU’s official payout. But when the Big Ten’s contribution for unsold tickets is factored in, IU actually received a payout of more than $2.6 million.

This is becoming a regular problem for Indiana. Last season, well over half of their ticket allotment for the Pinstripe Bowl went unsold. Via The Herald-Times:
This is the second year in a row the conference has helped IU cover the cost of unsold bowl game tickets. More than 4,000 of the 7,500 tickets allotted to IU for the 2015 New Era Pinstripe Bowl went unsold. IU only absorbed 950 of those unsold tickets, at a cost of about $84,000. The conference paid about $345,000 to cover the cost of 3,369 unsold tickets.

YOU THINK SOME ACC TEAMS DON'T TRAVEL WELL?
WOW!

This is a good example of why the bowl games need to be replaced by expanded conference playoffs.

I think we end up with expanded conference playoffs if we see conferences getting to 16, 18, or even 20 teams.

Even at 14 teams the schedules across the conferences members can be very unbalanced in toughness, will become even more so in larger leagues.

OR... if we go to a P4 with 16+ teams each, maybe we see conference semi-finals and a P4 champions-only playoff? Less travel. Keeps it in the conferences control. Lots of reasons this could happen.
03-phew I am not surprised. Hell, Indiana cannot even sell out a football game at Bloomington unless they are playing Notre Dame, Ohio State or Michigan! 07-coffee3
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