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Sounds like some freshmen might get some early PT.
They're certainly old enough to know better.
Cajun fans, we're any of these fools starters? Or mostly bench warmers?
(04-25-2017 10:08 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/news/...100915218/

On the bright side the media did refer to them in the article as UL football players and not ULL football players. Got to see the positive in everything.
(04-25-2017 11:06 PM)deb025 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-25-2017 10:08 PM)RamblinRedWolf Wrote: [ -> ]http://www.theadvertiser.com/story/news/...100915218/

On the bright side the media did refer to them in the article as UL football players and not ULL football players. Got to see the positive in everything.
The one positive thing is that we are not from ruston, or @ruston. Or any of its 'fans.'
(04-25-2017 10:56 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]Cajun fans, we're any of these fools starters? Or mostly bench warmers?

No probably 13 of our best players including an All American DE

However charges will most likely dropped these 13 played a prank on another player took a few pairs of shoes from said players room then returned shoes to him .. Player got kicked off the team (for rape) got mad and filled a false police report
(04-26-2017 07:59 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-25-2017 10:56 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]Cajun fans, we're any of these fools starters? Or mostly bench warmers?

No probably 13 of our best players including an All American DE

However charges will most likely dropped these 13 played a prank on another player took a few pairs of shoes from said players room then returned shoes to him .. Player got kicked off the team (for rape) got mad and filled a false police report

Soooo, what are you saying?

. . Just the normal Cajun off-season hi jinx . . .

Carry on. 07-coffee3
(04-26-2017 07:59 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-25-2017 10:56 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]Cajun fans, we're any of these fools starters? Or mostly bench warmers?

No probably 13 of our best players including an All American DE

However charges will most likely dropped these 13 played a prank on another player took a few pairs of shoes from said players room then returned shoes to him .. Player got kicked off the team (for rape) got mad and filled a false police report

I was hoping it was something along those lines. Hope it works out for the best. I'd hate to see a prank against an accused rapist result in criminal records for all those seniors.
I think someone just took the lead in the Fulmer Cup!!
(04-26-2017 07:59 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-25-2017 10:56 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]Cajun fans, we're any of these fools starters? Or mostly bench warmers?

No probably 13 of our best players including an All American DE

However charges will most likely dropped these 13 played a prank on another player took a few pairs of shoes from said players room then returned shoes to him .. Player got kicked off the team (for rape) got mad and filled a false police report

Sounds like a bunch of things worth over $1,000 total were stolen and the police had to recover them.

This was no prank.
(04-26-2017 10:01 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 07:59 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-25-2017 10:56 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]Cajun fans, we're any of these fools starters? Or mostly bench warmers?

No probably 13 of our best players including an All American DE

However charges will most likely dropped these 13 played a prank on another player took a few pairs of shoes from said players room then returned shoes to him .. Player got kicked off the team (for rape) got mad and filled a false police report

Sounds like a bunch of things worth over $1,000 total were stolen and the police had to recover them.

This was no prank.

Prank or not....taking things from someone is theft. There is no exception to the law that says you can get away with it if it's a prank.
(04-26-2017 10:10 AM)Cajunman02 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 10:01 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 07:59 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-25-2017 10:56 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]Cajun fans, we're any of these fools starters? Or mostly bench warmers?

No probably 13 of our best players including an All American DE

However charges will most likely dropped these 13 played a prank on another player took a few pairs of shoes from said players room then returned shoes to him .. Player got kicked off the team (for rape) got mad and filled a false police report

Sounds like a bunch of things worth over $1,000 total were stolen and the police had to recover them.

This was no prank.

Prank or not....taking things from someone is theft. There is no exception to the law that says you can get away with it if it's a prank.

Seriously? Ok Johnny RuleFollower. Geez.

Have you ever told a friend you were going to whoop their ass if they farted in your car again? That's technically assault. And if you punch him in the arm to get your point across, congratulations, you've now committed battery.

Give me a break.
(04-26-2017 10:15 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 10:10 AM)Cajunman02 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 10:01 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 07:59 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-25-2017 10:56 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]Cajun fans, we're any of these fools starters? Or mostly bench warmers?

No probably 13 of our best players including an All American DE

However charges will most likely dropped these 13 played a prank on another player took a few pairs of shoes from said players room then returned shoes to him .. Player got kicked off the team (for rape) got mad and filled a false police report

Sounds like a bunch of things worth over $1,000 total were stolen and the police had to recover them.

This was no prank.

Prank or not....taking things from someone is theft. There is no exception to the law that says you can get away with it if it's a prank.

Seriously? Ok Johnny RuleFollower. Geez.

Have you ever told a friend you were going to whoop their ass if they farted in your car again? That's technically assault. And if you punch him in the arm to get your point across, congratulations, you've now committed battery.

Give me a break.

Ooooh damn... *insert "he's right you know" meme*
(04-26-2017 10:15 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 10:10 AM)Cajunman02 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 10:01 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 07:59 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-25-2017 10:56 PM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]Cajun fans, we're any of these fools starters? Or mostly bench warmers?

No probably 13 of our best players including an All American DE

However charges will most likely dropped these 13 played a prank on another player took a few pairs of shoes from said players room then returned shoes to him .. Player got kicked off the team (for rape) got mad and filled a false police report

Sounds like a bunch of things worth over $1,000 total were stolen and the police had to recover them.

This was no prank.

Prank or not....taking things from someone is theft. There is no exception to the law that says you can get away with it if it's a prank.

Seriously? Ok Johnny RuleFollower. Geez.

Have you ever told a friend you were going to whoop their ass if they farted in your car again? That's technically assault. And if you punch him in the arm to get your point across, congratulations, you've now committed battery.

Give me a break.

And if none of that is reported to the police, can I still be charged with a crime?

Here, the theft was reported and those involved in any way were arrested.
Wait, they wanted to steal a few of his shoes as a prank?

That's an odd choice for a prank.
(04-26-2017 10:15 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: [ -> ]Seriously? Ok Johnny RuleFollower. Geez.

Have you ever told a friend you were going to whoop their ass if they farted in your car again? That's technically assault. And if you punch him in the arm to get your point across, congratulations, you've now committed battery.

Give me a break.

Yup, and with regards to stealing, you can get in big trouble if you borrow something from an acquaintance and they call the police and report it stolen.

Now that's not likely to happen, but of course the burden of proof is on you to show you didn't steal if you have possession of stolen property.

Hopefully these guys will get at least as much leniency as Cam Newton got for being caught with a stolen laptop.
(04-26-2017 10:30 AM)Cajunman02 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 10:15 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 10:10 AM)Cajunman02 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 10:01 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 07:59 AM)Cajun_lannister Wrote: [ -> ]No probably 13 of our best players including an All American DE

However charges will most likely dropped these 13 played a prank on another player took a few pairs of shoes from said players room then returned shoes to him .. Player got kicked off the team (for rape) got mad and filled a false police report

Sounds like a bunch of things worth over $1,000 total were stolen and the police had to recover them.

This was no prank.

Prank or not....taking things from someone is theft. There is no exception to the law that says you can get away with it if it's a prank.

Seriously? Ok Johnny RuleFollower. Geez.

Have you ever told a friend you were going to whoop their ass if they farted in your car again? That's technically assault. And if you punch him in the arm to get your point across, congratulations, you've now committed battery.

Give me a break.

And if none of that is reported to the police, can I still be charged with a crime?

Here, the theft was reported and those involved in any way were arrested.

Actually yes you could. A witness could report it. A crime is a crime whether or not a victim reports the crime or not. How many murders do you think are reported by their victims?

Also, what if that friend gets pissed at you the following week because he caught you texting his girlfriend, then he decides to report the fart induced retaliatory assault and battery to the police?

The point I'm trying to illustrate to you is that if you want to draw this hard line in the sand that "stealing is stealing! There's nothing in the law that says anything about it being a prank!" then you should at least be consistent in that stance and be ready for the horrible consequences that would create.

This is one reason why we have a jury of our peers. Because often there are mitigating circumstances that must be taken into account through thoughtful consideration of all the details that a simple law written in the books doesn't address.
(04-26-2017 11:00 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 10:30 AM)Cajunman02 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 10:15 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 10:10 AM)Cajunman02 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 10:01 AM)CardinalBlackTrojan Wrote: [ -> ]Sounds like a bunch of things worth over $1,000 total were stolen and the police had to recover them.

This was no prank.

Prank or not....taking things from someone is theft. There is no exception to the law that says you can get away with it if it's a prank.

Seriously? Ok Johnny RuleFollower. Geez.

Have you ever told a friend you were going to whoop their ass if they farted in your car again? That's technically assault. And if you punch him in the arm to get your point across, congratulations, you've now committed battery.

Give me a break.

And if none of that is reported to the police, can I still be charged with a crime?

Here, the theft was reported and those involved in any way were arrested.

Actually yes you could. A witness could report it. A crime is a crime whether or not a victim reports the crime or not. How many murders do you think are reported by their victims?

Also, what if that friend gets pissed at you the following week because he caught you texting his girlfriend, then he decides to report the fart induced retaliatory assault and battery to the police?

The point I'm trying to illustrate to you is that if you want to draw this hard line in the sand that "stealing is stealing! There's nothing in the law that says anything about it being a prank!" then you should at least be consistent in that stance and be ready for the horrible consequences that would create.

This is one reason why we have a jury of our peers. Because often there are mitigating circumstances that must be taken into account through thoughtful consideration of all the details that a simple law written in the books doesn't address.

I never said that the victim had to report it. I just simply said that if no one reports it, can I be charged with a crime?

If he reports it a week later, he better have some strong evidence to present to the police to obtain a warrant for my arrest. Likely any physical evidence has gone away and if he didn't receive any medical attention for it at the time of the assault, then he won't have much evidence a week later.
(04-26-2017 11:18 AM)Cajunman02 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 11:00 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 10:30 AM)Cajunman02 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 10:15 AM)CoastalAlum2011 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-26-2017 10:10 AM)Cajunman02 Wrote: [ -> ]Prank or not....taking things from someone is theft. There is no exception to the law that says you can get away with it if it's a prank.

Seriously? Ok Johnny RuleFollower. Geez.

Have you ever told a friend you were going to whoop their ass if they farted in your car again? That's technically assault. And if you punch him in the arm to get your point across, congratulations, you've now committed battery.

Give me a break.

And if none of that is reported to the police, can I still be charged with a crime?

Here, the theft was reported and those involved in any way were arrested.

Actually yes you could. A witness could report it. A crime is a crime whether or not a victim reports the crime or not. How many murders do you think are reported by their victims?

Also, what if that friend gets pissed at you the following week because he caught you texting his girlfriend, then he decides to report the fart induced retaliatory assault and battery to the police?

The point I'm trying to illustrate to you is that if you want to draw this hard line in the sand that "stealing is stealing! There's nothing in the law that says anything about it being a prank!" then you should at least be consistent in that stance and be ready for the horrible consequences that would create.

This is one reason why we have a jury of our peers. Because often there are mitigating circumstances that must be taken into account through thoughtful consideration of all the details that a simple law written in the books doesn't address.

I never said that the victim had to report it. I just simply said that if no one reports it, can I be charged with a crime?

If he reports it a week later, he better have some strong evidence to present to the police to obtain a warrant for my arrest. Likely any physical evidence has gone away and if he didn't receive any medical attention for it at the time of the assault, then he won't have much evidence a week later.

Do I need to keep coming up with hypotheticals for you to acknowledge that taking a hard line on this even if it is proven to be a prank is a little unfair to these players?

I sure TP'd a lot of houses in high school, but did it as a prank to my teammates on the soccer team, but technically that was trespassing and vandalism.

Sure glad I don't have a criminal record from that.
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