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Wow surprised UCLA is so low with a stud QB in Rosen...

Yeah, but they don't have that other stud quarterback this year. You know -- the team that has not made the list yet -- What's his name -- oh yeah, Wright -- no, no, that's not it -- wait, wait --yeah, I got it -- its' White!

(07-10-2017 03:25 AM)grapes Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-09-2017 10:56 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-09-2017 10:08 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote: [ -> ]How many bowl spots are there? 70? It will be interesting at tend of the season to revisit this list and see which of the top 70 fail to make a bowl, and who among the 70+ works their way in.

A 5-7 P5 team is almost definitely better than a 6-6 G5 team.

almost definitely

A P5 team can get to 5 wins without being very good, 4-0 against a bad OOC schedule and find one win against another terrible team in conference.

(07-10-2017 08:32 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-10-2017 03:25 AM)grapes Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-09-2017 10:56 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-09-2017 10:08 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote: [ -> ]How many bowl spots are there? 70? It will be interesting at tend of the season to revisit this list and see which of the top 70 fail to make a bowl, and who among the 70+ works their way in.

A 5-7 P5 team is almost definitely better than a 6-6 G5 team.

almost definitely

A P5 team can get to 5 wins without being very good, 4-0 against a bad OOC schedule and find one win against another terrible team in conference.

No argument, but what does this have to do with me wondering which top 70 teams will miss bowls and which 70+ ranked teams will make them? The P5 is almost all in the top 70, thus recognizing how easily they can make bowls.

(07-10-2017 08:32 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-10-2017 03:25 AM)grapes Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-09-2017 10:56 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-09-2017 10:08 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote: [ -> ]How many bowl spots are there? 70? It will be interesting at tend of the season to revisit this list and see which of the top 70 fail to make a bowl, and who among the 70+ works their way in.

A 5-7 P5 team is almost definitely better than a 6-6 G5 team.

almost definitely

A P5 team can get to 5 wins without being very good, 4-0 against a bad OOC schedule and find one win against another terrible team in conference.

But that exact statement can be made for a bad G5 team. Beat up on bad teams and win against the Charlotte, Georgia states of the world

(07-10-2017 09:12 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-10-2017 08:32 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-10-2017 03:25 AM)grapes Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-09-2017 10:56 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-09-2017 10:08 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote: [ -> ]How many bowl spots are there? 70? It will be interesting at tend of the season to revisit this list and see which of the top 70 fail to make a bowl, and who among the 70+ works their way in.

A 5-7 P5 team is almost definitely better than a 6-6 G5 team.

almost definitely

A P5 team can get to 5 wins without being very good, 4-0 against a bad OOC schedule and find one win against another terrible team in conference.

No argument, but what does this have to do with me wondering which top 70 teams will miss bowls and which 70+ ranked teams will make them? The P5 is almost all in the top 70, thus recognizing how easily they can make bowls.

I guess my point was, every year there are 5-7 and even 4-8 P5 teams that are better than some 6-6 or 7-5 G5 teams that are bowling.

So a team could be the 55th or 60th "best team" and sit at home while the 90th best team goes bowling.

(07-10-2017 09:15 AM)Jack Bauer Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-10-2017 08:32 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-10-2017 03:25 AM)grapes Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-09-2017 10:56 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-09-2017 10:08 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote: [ -> ]How many bowl spots are there? 70? It will be interesting at tend of the season to revisit this list and see which of the top 70 fail to make a bowl, and who among the 70+ works their way in.

A 5-7 P5 team is almost definitely better than a 6-6 G5 team.

almost definitely

A P5 team can get to 5 wins without being very good, 4-0 against a bad OOC schedule and find one win against another terrible team in conference.

But that exact statement can be made for a bad G5 team. Beat up on bad teams and win against the Charlotte, Georgia states of the world

Of course the exact same statement can be made for a G5 team, what did I say to indicate otherwise?

One of the AAC **** stirrers took umbrage with my suggestion that a 5-7 P5 team is almost definitely better than a 6-6 G5 team.

Let's say the 13th team in the SEC goes 5-7, beating two bad Sun Belt teams a bad MAC team and a FCS team and wins a pillow fight with the 14th place SEC team.

The AAC **** stirrer suggested I was drunk for considering a 6-6 G5 team might be better than that 5-7 SEC team.

(07-10-2017 09:15 AM)Jack Bauer Wrote: [ -> ]But that exact statement can be made for a bad G5 team. Beat up on bad teams and win against the Charlotte, Georgia states of the world

People just running their mouths for no reason at all.

Oldtimer's Potential order for the OS Rank selection. I'm Copping Out a little, I decided to go with a RANK RANGE. LOL

94-90. FIU (4-8) Picked at # 91
90-85. Marshall (3-9) Picked at # 89
87- 83. North Texas (5-8) Picked at # 100
85-80. UTSA (6-7) Picked at #83
85-.78 USM (7-6) Picked at #81
82-76 . ODU (10-3) Picked # 64
75- 70. MTSU (8-5) Picked at #73
LA Tech (9-5) [b]Picked #60
62-55. WKU (11-3) WKU will be picked higher than I anticipated for this year

1 CUSA teams to be selected.........go CUSA

REMINDER 2016 COUNTDOWN

Surprised we have not seen Vanderbilt yet...........FINALLY.

Well, next up maybe...........?? Indiana, Kentucky or South Carolina

85 Teams PICKED 45 to go...

2016 Selections
1 Clemson ACC 14-1
2 Oklahoma Big 12 11-2
3 Alabama SEC 14-1
4 Notre Dame Independent 10-3
5 Oklahoma State Big 12 10-3
6 Florida State ACC 10-3
7 Ohio State Big Ten 12-1
8 UCLA Pac-12 8-5
9 Michigan Big Ten 10- 3
10 Baylor Big 12 10-3
11 Tennessee SEC 9-4
12 Stanford Pac-12 12-2
13 LSU SEC 9-3
14 Houston ACC 13-1
15 Michigan State Big Ten 12-2
16 Ole Miss SEC 10-3
17 USC Pac-12 8-6
18 Wisconsin Big Ten 10-3
19 North Carolina ACC 11-3
20 Oregon Pac-12 9-4
21 Florida SEC 10-4
22 Iowa Big Ten 12-2
23 Louisville ACC 8-5
24 Northwestern Big Ten 10-3
25 Miami ACC 8-5
26 Georgia SEC 10-3
27 Penn State Big Ten 7-6
28 TCU Big 12 11-2.
29 Pittsburgh ACC 8-5
30 Washington State Pac-12 9-4
31 Western Kentucky C-USA 12-2
32 Arkansas SEC 8-5
33 Boise State Mountain West 9-4
34 Utah Pac-12 10-6
35 Nebraska Big Ten 6-7
36 Virginia Tech ACC 7-6
37 Auburn SEC 7-6
38 Washington Pac-12 7-6
39 Texas A&M SEC 8-5
40 Temple AAC 10-4
41 Air Force Mountain West 8-6
42 Arizona Pac-12 7-6
43 Mississippi State SEC 9-4
44 Western Michigan MAC 8-5
45 USF AAC 8-5
46 Central Michigan MAC 7-6
47 Texas Big 12 5-7
48 Toledo MAC 10-2
49 San Diego State Mountain West 11-3
50 Northern Illinois MAC 8-6
51 Cincinnati AAC 7-6
52 Appalachian State Sun Belt 11-2
53 Bowling Green MAC 10-4
54 South Carolina SEC 3-9
55 Southern Miss C-USA 9-5 # 81 Down 26 Places
56 Georgia Southern Sun Belt 9-4
57 Marshall C-USA 10-3 # 85 DOWN 28 Places
58 West Virginia Big 12 8-5
59 Minnesota Big Ten 6-7
60 Colorado State Mountain West 7-6
61 Ohio MAC 8-5
62 Memphis AAC 9-4
63 Middle Tennessee C-USA 7-6 #72 DOWN 9 Places
64 NC State ACC 7-6
65 Arkansas State Sun Belt 9-4
66 Louisiana Tech C-USA 9-4 #60 UP 6 Places
67 Navy AAC 11-2 Picked #59
68 Duke ACC 8-5
69 BYU Independent 9-4
70 Texas Tech Big 12 7-6
71 UConn AAC 6-7
72 Utah State Mountain West 6-7
73 Arizona State Pac-12 6-7
74 Georgia Tech ACC 3-9
75 Kansas State Big 12 6-7
76 Tulsa AAC 6-7# 67
77 Nevada Mountain West 7-6
78 Georgia State Sun 6-7
79 Kentucky SEC 5-7
80 California Pac-12 8-5
81 Indiana Big Ten 6-7
82 East Carolina AAC 5-7
83 Boston College ACC 3-9
84 Missouri SEC 5-7
85 Fresno State Mountain West 3-9
86 Syracuse ACC 4-8
87 FAU C-USA 3-9 2016 # 106 DOWN 19 Places
88 New Mexico Mountain West 7-6
89 Troy Sun Belt 4-8
90 UCF AAC 0-12
91 San Jose State Mountain West 6-7
92 Buffalo MAC 5-7 #128
93 Vanderbilt SEC 4-8
94 Idaho Sun Belt 4-8
95 Old Dominion C-USA 5-7 Picked at 64 UP 31 Places
96 Maryland Big Ten 3-9
97 Louisiana-Lafayette Sun Belt 4-8
98 Virginia ACC 5-8
99 Texas-San Antonio C-USA 3-9 Picked at 83 UP 16 Places
100 Akron MAC 8-5
101 Rutgers Big Ten 4-8
102 Colorado Pac-12 4-9
103 Wake Forest ACC 3-9
104 Ball State MAC 3-9
105 UTEP C-USA 5-7 2017 # 114 DOWN 9 Places
106 Illinois Big Ten 5-7
107 Kent State MAC 3-9
108 Rice C-USA 5-7 2017 110 DOWN 2 Places
109 South Alabama Sun Belt 5-7
110 Eastern Michigan MAC 1-11 #110
111 Texas State Sun Belt 3-9 #129
112 FIU C-USA 5-7 2017 91 UP 21 Places
113 UNLV Mountain West 3-9
114 Iowa State Big 12 3-9
115 Charlotte C-USA 2-10 2017 #126 DOWN 11 places
116 Oregon State Pac-12 2-10
117 Wyoming Mountain West 2-10
118 New Mexico State Sun Belt 3-9 #127
119 Purdue Big Ten 2-10
120 Kansas BIG 12 0-12
121 Hawaii Mountain West 3-10
122 SMU AAC 2-10
123 Louisiana-Monroe Sun Belt 2-11
124 Miami (Ohio) MAC 3-9
125 Army Independent 2-10
126 Tulane AAC 3-9
127 North Texas Conference USA 1-11 2017 #100 UP 27 places
128 UMass Independent 3-9
NOT ON 2016 LIST Selected # 115 in 2017 Coastal Carolina
130 UAB NOT ON 2016 LIST

ONLY 2 G5's LEFT...... Here is a possible FINISH for the remaining G5 conference teams.............maybe?
AAC (2)
USF
U̶C̶F̶ Picked #48
M̶̷e̶̷m̶̷p̶̷h̶̷i̶̷s̶̷ Picked # 53
H̶ᴏ̶ᴜ̶s̶ᴛ̶ᴏ̶ɴ̶ Picked #56
N̶a̶v̶y̶ Picked #59
T̶u̶l̶s̶a̶ Picked # 67

C-USA (1)
Western Kentucky
L̶ᴀ̶ T̶ᴇ̶ᴄ̶ʜ̶ Picked #60
O̶l̶d̶ D̶o̶m̶i̶n̶i̶o̶n̶ Picked #64
M̶i̶d̶d̶l̶e̶ T̶e̶n̶n̶e̶s̶s̶e̶e̶ Picked #73

Mountain West (0)Completed
S̶a̶n̶ D̶i̶e̶g̶o̶ S̶t̶a̶t̶e̶ Picked #52
W̶y̶o̶m̶i̶n̶g̶ Picked #57
B̶o̶i̶s̶e̶ S̶t̶a̶t̶e̶ Picked #61

MAC (0) Completed
T̶̲o̶̲l̶̲e̶̲d̶̲o̶̲ Picked #58
M̶i̶a̶m̶i̶ (̶O̶h̶i̶o̶)̶ Picked # 69

Sun Belt (0) Completed
A̶p̶p̶a̶l̶a̶c̶h̶i̶a̶n̶ S̶t̶a̶t̶e̶ Picked #62
T̶r̶o̶y̶ - Picked #68

(07-10-2017 10:36 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ]The AAC **** stirrer suggested I was drunk for considering a 6-6 G5 team might be better than that 5-7 SEC team.

I know one 6-6 G5 team that was better than a SEC team that went bowling and had a winning record. :)

UNC in at 45. Here's the update.

AAC 80.12
C-USA 89.25
MWC 89.58
MAC 93.58
SBC 101.00

SEC 28.54
PAC-12 35.08
BIG-12 45.65
B1G 46.21
ACC 52.00

7/11/2017

Includes North Carolina at 45

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/co...-rankings/

45. North Carolina
46. UCLA
47. Vanderbilt
48. UCF
49. Colorado
50. Michigan State
51. Missouri
52. San Diego State
53. Memphis
54. Ole Miss
55. Maryland
56. Houston
57. Wyoming
58. Toledo
59. Navy
60. LA Tech
61. Boise State
62. App State
63. Indiana
64. Old Dominion
65. Wake Forest
66. California
67. Tulsa
68. Troy
69. Miami (Ohio)
70. Boston College
71. Texas Tech
72. Army
73. Middle Tennessee
74. Ball State
75. Arkansas State
76. Syracuse
77. New Mexico
78. Georgia Tech
79. Western Michigan
80. Oregon State
81. Southern Miss
82. Pitt
83. UTSA
84. Nevada
85. Duke
86. Purdue
87. Northern Illinois
88. Georgia Southern
89. Marshall
90. Eastern Michigan
91. Florida International
92. Virginia
93. Rutgers
94. Colorado State
95. Central Michigan
96. Hawaii
97. SMU
98. Air Force
99. Louisiana Monroe
100. North Texas
101. Ohio
102. East Carolina
103. San Jose State
104. Bowling Green
105. South Alabama
106. Florida Atlantic
107. Tulane
108. Louisiana Lafayette
109. Iowa State
110. Rice
111. Temple
112. Idaho
113. UNLV
114. UTEP
115 Coastal Carolina
116. Akron
117. Utah State
118. Cincinnati
119. Kansas
120. Illinois
121. UCONN
122. Kent State
123. Fresno State
124. GA State
125. UMASS
126. Charlotte
127. New Mexico State
128. Buffalo
129. Texas State
130. UAB

AAC - 11 UCONN (121), Cincinnati (118), Temple (111), Tulane (107), East Carolina (102), SMU (97), Tulsa (67), Navy (59), Houston (56), Memphis (53). UCF (48)
C-USA - 13 UAB (130), Charlotte (126), UTEP (114), Rice (110), FAU (106), North Texas (100), FIU (91), Marshall (89), UTSA (83), Southern Miss (81), Middle Tennessee (73), Old Dominion (64), LA Tech (60)
MAC - 12 of 12 Buffalo (128), Kent State (122), Akron (116), Bowling Green (104) Ohio, (101), Central Michigan (95), Eastern Michigan (90), Northern Illinois (87), Western Michigan (79), Ball State (74), Miami (Ohio) 69, Toledo (58)
MT West - 12 of 12 Fresno State (123), Utah State (117), UNLV (113), San Jose State (103), Air Force (98), Hawaii (96), Colorado State (94), Nevada (84), New Mexico (77), Boise State (61), Wyoming (57), San Diego State (52)
Sun Belt - 12 of 12 Texas State (129), NM State (127), GA State (124), Coastal Carolina (115), Idaho (112), Louisiana Lafayette (108), South Alabama (105), Louisiana Monroe (99), Georgia Southern (88), Arkansas State (75), Troy (68), App State (62)

Big 12 - 3 Kansas (119), Iowa State (109), Texas Tech (71)
B1G - 6 Illinois (120), Rutgers (93), Purdue (86), Indiana (63), Maryland (55), Michigan State (50)
ACC - 7 Virginia (92), Duke (85), Pitt (82), Georgia Tech (78), Syracuse (76), Boston College (70), Wake Forest (65), North Carolina (45)
PAC12 - 4 Oregon State (80), Cal (66), Colorado (49), UCLA (46)
SEC - 3 Ole Miss (54), Missouri (51), Vanderbilt at 47

Independent - 2 UMASS (125), Army (72)

ODU's Schedule (Ranked 64)

Albany - NR
UMass - 125
UNC - 45
VT - 20ish
FAU - 106
Marshall - 89
WKU - 40ish
North Texas - 100
Charlotte - 126
FIU - 91
Rice - 110
MTSU - 73

Oldtimer's Potential order for the OS Rank selection. I'm Copping Out a little, I decided to go with a RANK RANGE. LOL

94-90. FIU (4-8) Picked at # 91
90-85. Marshall (3-9) Picked at # 89
87- 83. North Texas (5-8) Picked at # 100
85-80. UTSA (6-7) Picked at #83
85-.78 USM (7-6) Picked at #81
82-76 . ODU (10-3) Picked # 64
75- 70. MTSU (8-5) Picked at #73
LA Tech (9-5) [b]Picked #60
62-55. WKU (11-3) Picked at #43

REMINDER 2016 COUNTDOWN

Well, next up maybe...........?? Indiana, Kentucky or South Carolina

87 Teams PICKED 43 to go...

2016 Selections
1 Clemson ACC 14-1
2 Oklahoma Big 12 11-2
3 Alabama SEC 14-1
4 Notre Dame Independent 10-3
5 Oklahoma State Big 12 10-3
6 Florida State ACC 10-3
7 Ohio State Big Ten 12-1
8 UCLA Pac-12 8-5
9 Michigan Big Ten 10- 3
10 Baylor Big 12 10-3
11 Tennessee SEC 9-4
12 Stanford Pac-12 12-2
13 LSU SEC 9-3
14 Houston ACC 13-1
15 Michigan State Big Ten 12-2
16 Ole Miss SEC 10-3
17 USC Pac-12 8-6
18 Wisconsin Big Ten 10-3
19 North Carolina ACC 11-3
20 Oregon Pac-12 9-4
21 Florida SEC 10-4
22 Iowa Big Ten 12-2
23 Louisville ACC 8-5
24 Northwestern Big Ten 10-3
25 Miami ACC 8-5
26 Georgia SEC 10-3
27 Penn State Big Ten 7-6
28 TCU Big 12 11-2.
29 Pittsburgh ACC 8-5
30 Washington State Pac-12 9-4
31 Western Kentucky C-USA 12-2 #45 Down 13 Places
32 Arkansas SEC 8-5
33 Boise State Mountain West 9-4
34 Utah Pac-12 10-6
35 Nebraska Big Ten 6-7
36 Virginia Tech ACC 7-6
37 Auburn SEC 7-6
38 Washington Pac-12 7-6
39 Texas A&M SEC 8-5
40 Temple AAC 10-4
41 Air Force Mountain West 8-6
42 Arizona Pac-12 7-6
43 Mississippi State SEC 9-4
44 Western Michigan MAC 8-5
45 USF AAC 8-5
46 Central Michigan MAC 7-6
47 Texas Big 12 5-7
48 Toledo MAC 10-2
49 San Diego State Mountain West 11-3
50 Northern Illinois MAC 8-6
51 Cincinnati AAC 7-6
52 Appalachian State Sun Belt 11-2
53 Bowling Green MAC 10-4
54 South Carolina SEC 3-9
55 Southern Miss C-USA 9-5 # 81 Down 26 Places
56 Georgia Southern Sun Belt 9-4
57 Marshall C-USA 10-3 # 85 DOWN 28 Places
58 West Virginia Big 12 8-5
59 Minnesota Big Ten 6-7
60 Colorado State Mountain West 7-6
61 Ohio MAC 8-5
62 Memphis AAC 9-4
63 Middle Tennessee C-USA 7-6 #72 DOWN 9 Places
64 NC State ACC 7-6
65 Arkansas State Sun Belt 9-4
66 Louisiana Tech C-USA 9-4 #60 UP 6 Places
67 Navy AAC 11-2 Picked #59
68 Duke ACC 8-5
69 BYU Independent 9-4
70 Texas Tech Big 12 7-6
71 UConn AAC 6-7
72 Utah State Mountain West 6-7
73 Arizona State Pac-12 6-7
74 Georgia Tech ACC 3-9
75 Kansas State Big 12 6-7
76 Tulsa AAC 6-7# 67
77 Nevada Mountain West 7-6
78 Georgia State Sun 6-7
79 Kentucky SEC 5-7
80 California Pac-12 8-5
81 Indiana Big Ten 6-7
82 East Carolina AAC 5-7
83 Boston College ACC 3-9
84 Missouri SEC 5-7
85 Fresno State Mountain West 3-9
86 Syracuse ACC 4-8
87 FAU C-USA 3-9 2016 # 106 DOWN 19 Places
88 New Mexico Mountain West 7-6
89 Troy Sun Belt 4-8
90 UCF AAC 0-12
91 San Jose State Mountain West 6-7
92 Buffalo MAC 5-7 #128
93 Vanderbilt SEC 4-8
94 Idaho Sun Belt 4-8
95 Old Dominion C-USA 5-7 Picked at 64 UP 31 Places
96 Maryland Big Ten 3-9
97 Louisiana-Lafayette Sun Belt 4-8
98 Virginia ACC 5-8
99 Texas-San Antonio C-USA 3-9 Picked at 83 UP 16 Places
100 Akron MAC 8-5
101 Rutgers Big Ten 4-8
102 Colorado Pac-12 4-9
103 Wake Forest ACC 3-9
104 Ball State MAC 3-9
105 UTEP C-USA 5-7 2017 # 114 DOWN 9 Places
106 Illinois Big Ten 5-7
107 Kent State MAC 3-9
108 Rice C-USA 5-7 2017 110 DOWN 2 Places
109 South Alabama Sun Belt 5-7
110 Eastern Michigan MAC 1-11 #110
111 Texas State Sun Belt 3-9 #129
112 FIU C-USA 5-7 2017 91 UP 21 Places
113 UNLV Mountain West 3-9
114 Iowa State Big 12 3-9
115 Charlotte C-USA 2-10 2017 #126 DOWN 11 places
116 Oregon State Pac-12 2-10
117 Wyoming Mountain West 2-10
118 New Mexico State Sun Belt 3-9 #127
119 Purdue Big Ten 2-10
120 Kansas BIG 12 0-12
121 Hawaii Mountain West 3-10
122 SMU AAC 2-10
123 Louisiana-Monroe Sun Belt 2-11
124 Miami (Ohio) MAC 3-9
125 Army Independent 2-10
126 Tulane AAC 3-9
127 North Texas Conference USA 1-11 2017 #100 UP 27 places
128 UMass Independent 3-9
NOT ON 2016 LIST Selected # 115 in 2017 Coastal Carolina
130 UAB NOT ON 2016 LIST

ONLY 1 G5's LEFT...... Here is a possible FINISH for the remaining G5 conference teams.............maybe?
AAC (2)
USF
U̶C̶F̶ Picked #48
M̶̷e̶̷m̶̷p̶̷h̶̷i̶̷s̶̷ Picked # 53
H̶ᴏ̶ᴜ̶s̶ᴛ̶ᴏ̶ɴ̶ Picked #56
N̶a̶v̶y̶ Picked #59
T̶u̶l̶s̶a̶ Picked # 67

C-USA (0) Completed
W̶ᴇ̶s̶ᴛ̶ᴇ̶ʀ̶ɴ̶ K̶ᴇ̶ɴ̶ᴛ̶ᴜ̶ᴄ̶ᴋ̶ʏ̶
L̶ᴀ̶ T̶ᴇ̶ᴄ̶ʜ̶ Picked #60
O̶l̶d̶ D̶o̶m̶i̶n̶i̶o̶n̶ Picked #64
M̶i̶d̶d̶l̶e̶ T̶e̶n̶n̶e̶s̶s̶e̶e̶ Picked #73

Mountain West (0)Completed
S̶a̶n̶ D̶i̶e̶g̶o̶ S̶t̶a̶t̶e̶ Picked #52
W̶y̶o̶m̶i̶n̶g̶ Picked #57
B̶o̶i̶s̶e̶ S̶t̶a̶t̶e̶ Picked #61

MAC (0) Completed
T̶̲o̶̲l̶̲e̶̲d̶̲o̶̲ Picked #58
M̶i̶a̶m̶i̶ (̶O̶h̶i̶o̶)̶ Picked # 69

Sun Belt (0) Completed
A̶p̶p̶a̶l̶a̶c̶h̶i̶a̶n̶ S̶t̶a̶t̶e̶ Picked #62
T̶r̶o̶y̶ - Picked #68

At this point I'd say Baylor is probably overrated, not sure they'll get to six wins this year with all the change and turmoil around the program.

(07-10-2017 10:36 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-10-2017 09:15 AM)Jack Bauer Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-10-2017 08:32 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-10-2017 03:25 AM)grapes Wrote: [ -> ]

(07-09-2017 10:56 AM)MTPiKapp Wrote: [ -> ]A 5-7 P5 team is almost definitely better than a 6-6 G5 team.

almost definitely

A P5 team can get to 5 wins without being very good, 4-0 against a bad OOC schedule and find one win against another terrible team in conference.

But that exact statement can be made for a bad G5 team. Beat up on bad teams and win against the Charlotte, Georgia states of the world

Of course the exact same statement can be made for a G5 team, what did I say to indicate otherwise?

One of the AAC **** stirrers took umbrage with my suggestion that a 5-7 P5 team is almost definitely better than a 6-6 G5 team.

Let's say the 13th team in the SEC goes 5-7, beating two bad Sun Belt teams a bad MAC team and a FCS team and wins a pillow fight with the 14th place SEC team.

The AAC **** stirrer suggested I was drunk for considering a 6-6 G5 team might be better than that 5-7 SEC team.

What are your thoughts on this "Pulling Back the Curtain" series of articles being posted by the Rivals guys on Raider Roundup? Lotsa folks ain't buying CM's spin this year. The Vandy home opener will make or break the season early.

With Minnesota in at 44, here's the update.

AAC 80.08
C-USA 89.21
MWC 89.58
MAC 93.58
SBC 101.00

SEC 28.14
PAC-12 34.75
BIG-12 45.30
B1G 47.50
ACC 51.79

IND 60.26

7/12/2017

Includes Minnesota at 44

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/co...-rankings/

44. Minnesota
45. North Carolina
46. UCLA
47. Vanderbilt
48. UCF
49. Colorado
50. Michigan State
51. Missouri
52. San Diego State
53. Memphis
54. Ole Miss
55. Maryland
56. Houston
57. Wyoming
58. Toledo
59. Navy
60. LA Tech
61. Boise State
62. App State
63. Indiana
64. Old Dominion
65. Wake Forest
66. California
67. Tulsa
68. Troy
69. Miami (Ohio)
70. Boston College
71. Texas Tech
72. Army
73. Middle Tennessee
74. Ball State
75. Arkansas State
76. Syracuse
77. New Mexico
78. Georgia Tech
79. Western Michigan
80. Oregon State
81. Southern Miss
82. Pitt
83. UTSA
84. Nevada
85. Duke
86. Purdue
87. Northern Illinois
88. Georgia Southern
89. Marshall
90. Eastern Michigan
91. Florida International
92. Virginia
93. Rutgers
94. Colorado State
95. Central Michigan
96. Hawaii
97. SMU
98. Air Force
99. Louisiana Monroe
100. North Texas
101. Ohio
102. East Carolina
103. San Jose State
104. Bowling Green
105. South Alabama
106. Florida Atlantic
107. Tulane
108. Louisiana Lafayette
109. Iowa State
110. Rice
111. Temple
112. Idaho
113. UNLV
114. UTEP
115 Coastal Carolina
116. Akron
117. Utah State
118. Cincinnati
119. Kansas
120. Illinois
121. UCONN
122. Kent State
123. Fresno State
124. GA State
125. UMASS
126. Charlotte
127. New Mexico State
128. Buffalo
129. Texas State
130. UAB

AAC - 11 UCONN (121), Cincinnati (118), Temple (111), Tulane (107), East Carolina (102), SMU (97), Tulsa (67), Navy (59), Houston (56), Memphis (53). UCF (48)
C-USA - 13 UAB (130), Charlotte (126), UTEP (114), Rice (110), FAU (106), North Texas (100), FIU (91), Marshall (89), UTSA (83), Southern Miss (81), Middle Tennessee (73), Old Dominion (64), LA Tech (60)
MAC - 12 of 12 Buffalo (128), Kent State (122), Akron (116), Bowling Green (104) Ohio, (101), Central Michigan (95), Eastern Michigan (90), Northern Illinois (87), Western Michigan (79), Ball State (74), Miami (Ohio) 69, Toledo (58)
MT West - 12 of 12 Fresno State (123), Utah State (117), UNLV (113), San Jose State (103), Air Force (98), Hawaii (96), Colorado State (94), Nevada (84), New Mexico (77), Boise State (61), Wyoming (57), San Diego State (52)
Sun Belt - 12 of 12 Texas State (129), NM State (127), GA State (124), Coastal Carolina (115), Idaho (112), Louisiana Lafayette (108), South Alabama (105), Louisiana Monroe (99), Georgia Southern (88), Arkansas State (75), Troy (68), App State (62)

Big 12 - 3 Kansas (119), Iowa State (109), Texas Tech (71)
B1G - 6 Illinois (120), Rutgers (93), Purdue (86), Indiana (63), Maryland (55), Michigan State (50), Minnesota (44)
ACC - 7 Virginia (92), Duke (85), Pitt (82), Georgia Tech (78), Syracuse (76), Boston College (70), Wake Forest (65), North Carolina (45)
PAC12 - 4 Oregon State (80), Cal (66), Colorado (49), UCLA (46)
SEC - 3 Ole Miss (54), Missouri (51), Vanderbilt at 47

Independent - 2 UMASS (125), Army (72)

Row the boat Gophers!

Oldtimer's Potential order for the OS Rank selection. I'm Copping Out a little, I decided to go with a RANK RANGE. LOL

94-90. FIU (4-8) Picked at # 91
90-85. Marshall (3-9) Picked at # 89
87- 83. North Texas (5-8) Picked at # 100
85-80. UTSA (6-7) Picked at #83
85-.78 USM (7-6) Picked at #81
82-76 . ODU (10-3) Picked # 64
75- 70. MTSU (8-5) Picked at #73
LA Tech (9-5) [b]Picked #60
62-55. WKU (11-3) WKU will be picked higher than I anticipated for this year

1 CUSA teams to be selected.........go CUSA

REMINDER 2016 COUNTDOWN

Well, next up maybe...........?? Indiana, Kentucky or South Carolina

87 Teams PICKED 43 to go...

2016 Selections
1 Clemson ACC 14-1
2 Oklahoma Big 12 11-2
3 Alabama SEC 14-1
4 Notre Dame Independent 10-3
5 Oklahoma State Big 12 10-3
6 Florida State ACC 10-3
7 Ohio State Big Ten 12-1
8 UCLA Pac-12 8-5
9 Michigan Big Ten 10- 3
10 Baylor Big 12 10-3
11 Tennessee SEC 9-4
12 Stanford Pac-12 12-2
13 LSU SEC 9-3
14 Houston ACC 13-1
15 Michigan State Big Ten 12-2
16 Ole Miss SEC 10-3
17 USC Pac-12 8-6
18 Wisconsin Big Ten 10-3
19 North Carolina ACC 11-3
20 Oregon Pac-12 9-4
21 Florida SEC 10-4
22 Iowa Big Ten 12-2
23 Louisville ACC 8-5
24 Northwestern Big Ten 10-3
25 Miami ACC 8-5
26 Georgia SEC 10-3
27 Penn State Big Ten 7-6
28 TCU Big 12 11-2.
29 Pittsburgh ACC 8-5
30 Washington State Pac-12 9-4
31 Western Kentucky C-USA 12-2
32 Arkansas SEC 8-5
33 Boise State Mountain West 9-4
34 Utah Pac-12 10-6
35 Nebraska Big Ten 6-7
36 Virginia Tech ACC 7-6
37 Auburn SEC 7-6
38 Washington Pac-12 7-6
39 Texas A&M SEC 8-5
40 Temple AAC 10-4
41 Air Force Mountain West 8-6
42 Arizona Pac-12 7-6
43 Mississippi State SEC 9-4
44 Western Michigan MAC 8-5
45 USF AAC 8-5
46 Central Michigan MAC 7-6
47 Texas Big 12 5-7
48 Toledo MAC 10-2
49 San Diego State Mountain West 11-3
50 Northern Illinois MAC 8-6
51 Cincinnati AAC 7-6
52 Appalachian State Sun Belt 11-2
53 Bowling Green MAC 10-4
54 South Carolina SEC 3-9
55 Southern Miss C-USA 9-5 # 81 Down 26 Places
56 Georgia Southern Sun Belt 9-4
57 Marshall C-USA 10-3 # 85 DOWN 28 Places
58 West Virginia Big 12 8-5
59 Minnesota Big Ten 6-7
60 Colorado State Mountain West 7-6
61 Ohio MAC 8-5
62 Memphis AAC 9-4
63 Middle Tennessee C-USA 7-6 #72 DOWN 9 Places
64 NC State ACC 7-6
65 Arkansas State Sun Belt 9-4
66 Louisiana Tech C-USA 9-4 #60 UP 6 Places
67 Navy AAC 11-2 Picked #59
68 Duke ACC 8-5
69 BYU Independent 9-4
70 Texas Tech Big 12 7-6
71 UConn AAC 6-7
72 Utah State Mountain West 6-7
73 Arizona State Pac-12 6-7
74 Georgia Tech ACC 3-9
75 Kansas State Big 12 6-7
76 Tulsa AAC 6-7# 67
77 Nevada Mountain West 7-6
78 Georgia State Sun 6-7
79 Kentucky SEC 5-7
80 California Pac-12 8-5
81 Indiana Big Ten 6-7
82 East Carolina AAC 5-7
83 Boston College ACC 3-9
84 Missouri SEC 5-7
85 Fresno State Mountain West 3-9
86 Syracuse ACC 4-8
87 FAU C-USA 3-9 2016 # 106 DOWN 19 Places
88 New Mexico Mountain West 7-6
89 Troy Sun Belt 4-8
90 UCF AAC 0-12
91 San Jose State Mountain West 6-7
92 Buffalo MAC 5-7 #128
93 Vanderbilt SEC 4-8
94 Idaho Sun Belt 4-8
95 Old Dominion C-USA 5-7 Picked at 64 UP 31 Places
96 Maryland Big Ten 3-9
97 Louisiana-Lafayette Sun Belt 4-8
98 Virginia ACC 5-8
99 Texas-San Antonio C-USA 3-9 Picked at 83 UP 16 Places
100 Akron MAC 8-5
101 Rutgers Big Ten 4-8
102 Colorado Pac-12 4-9
103 Wake Forest ACC 3-9
104 Ball State MAC 3-9
105 UTEP C-USA 5-7 2017 # 114 DOWN 9 Places
106 Illinois Big Ten 5-7
107 Kent State MAC 3-9
108 Rice C-USA 5-7 2017 110 DOWN 2 Places
109 South Alabama Sun Belt 5-7
110 Eastern Michigan MAC 1-11 #110
111 Texas State Sun Belt 3-9 #129
112 FIU C-USA 5-7 2017 91 UP 21 Places
113 UNLV Mountain West 3-9
114 Iowa State Big 12 3-9
115 Charlotte C-USA 2-10 2017 #126 DOWN 11 places
116 Oregon State Pac-12 2-10
117 Wyoming Mountain West 2-10
118 New Mexico State Sun Belt 3-9 #127
119 Purdue Big Ten 2-10
120 Kansas BIG 12 0-12
121 Hawaii Mountain West 3-10
122 SMU AAC 2-10
123 Louisiana-Monroe Sun Belt 2-11
124 Miami (Ohio) MAC 3-9
125 Army Independent 2-10
126 Tulane AAC 3-9
127 North Texas Conference USA 1-11 2017 #100 UP 27 places
128 UMass Independent 3-9
NOT ON 2016 LIST Selected # 115 in 2017 Coastal Carolina
130 UAB NOT ON 2016 LIST

ONLY 2 G5's LEFT...... Here is a possible FINISH for the remaining G5 conference teams.............maybe?
AAC (2)
USF
U̶C̶F̶ Picked #48
M̶̷e̶̷m̶̷p̶̷h̶̷i̶̷s̶̷ Picked # 53
H̶ᴏ̶ᴜ̶s̶ᴛ̶ᴏ̶ɴ̶ Picked #56
N̶a̶v̶y̶ Picked #59
T̶u̶l̶s̶a̶ Picked # 67

C-USA (1)
Western Kentucky
L̶ᴀ̶ T̶ᴇ̶ᴄ̶ʜ̶ Picked #60
O̶l̶d̶ D̶o̶m̶i̶n̶i̶o̶n̶ Picked #64
M̶i̶d̶d̶l̶e̶ T̶e̶n̶n̶e̶s̶s̶e̶e̶ Picked #73

Mountain West (0)Completed
S̶a̶n̶ D̶i̶e̶g̶o̶ S̶t̶a̶t̶e̶ Picked #52
W̶y̶o̶m̶i̶n̶g̶ Picked #57
B̶o̶i̶s̶e̶ S̶t̶a̶t̶e̶ Picked #61

MAC (0) Completed
T̶̲o̶̲l̶̲e̶̲d̶̲o̶̲ Picked #58
M̶i̶a̶m̶i̶ (̶O̶h̶i̶o̶)̶ Picked # 69

Sun Belt (0) Completed
A̶p̶p̶a̶l̶a̶c̶h̶i̶a̶n̶ S̶t̶a̶t̶e̶ Picked #62
T̶r̶o̶y̶ - Picked #68

Drumroll time. Hilltoppers in da house.

(07-13-2017 12:48 AM)FriscoDawg Wrote: [ -> ]Drumroll time. Hilltoppers in da house.

About where I would put us... I thought it would go lower just because of the coaching change.

Side note. He said we lost to la tech last year. Is that correct? I thought we lost two years ago, and won last year.