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(04-18-2017 10:58 AM)84Monarch Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 08:25 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 07:44 AM)757ODU Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 06:39 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]I guess the degree from Rice didn't matter anymore. LOL ! So this proves Rice beat us out for Evans and this staff failed to successfully recruit him out of HS.

We have a pretty good point guard, that is the same age. Add Kithcart to the mix, and we have two good point guards. What are you upset about?

Just shows another recruiting failure of this staff. Local kid that frankly is better than the guards on this team and we could not close the deal.

And if Marcus wanted to go away to school, what could this staff or any other staff do about that?

Evidently he didnt. He's an hour and a half down the road.
(04-18-2017 11:13 AM)monarx Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 10:58 AM)84Monarch Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 08:25 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 07:44 AM)757ODU Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 06:39 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]I guess the degree from Rice didn't matter anymore. LOL ! So this proves Rice beat us out for Evans and this staff failed to successfully recruit him out of HS.

We have a pretty good point guard, that is the same age. Add Kithcart to the mix, and we have two good point guards. What are you upset about?

Just shows another recruiting failure of this staff. Local kid that frankly is better than the guards on this team and we could not close the deal.
I was referring to his original decision and recruitment. As Blue23 pointed out he could not come here based on his decision to transfer. If I were Rice's AD VCU would have been on that can't transfer list, but that is just me.
And if Marcus wanted to go away to school, what could this staff or any other staff do about that?

Evidently he didnt. He's an hour and a half down the road.
(04-18-2017 10:41 AM)BigBlue23 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 08:25 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 07:44 AM)757ODU Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 06:39 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]I guess the degree from Rice didn't matter anymore. LOL ! So this proves Rice beat us out for Evans and this staff failed to successfully recruit him out of HS.

We have a pretty good point guard, that is the same age. Add Kithcart to the mix, and we have two good point guards. What are you upset about?

Just shows another recruiting failure of this staff. Local kid that frankly is better than the guards on this team and we could not close the deal.

Just to clarify, we could not recruit him as a transfer. If we had a recruiting fail, it was him out of high school.

I can't stand this entire staff as much as anyone, but their hands were tied on this one.

We all know that...we were referring to the pathetic excuse we got from folks on the staff some of us got when he committed to Rice out of HS.
(04-18-2017 11:59 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 10:41 AM)BigBlue23 Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 08:25 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 07:44 AM)757ODU Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 06:39 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]I guess the degree from Rice didn't matter anymore. LOL ! So this proves Rice beat us out for Evans and this staff failed to successfully recruit him out of HS.

We have a pretty good point guard, that is the same age. Add Kithcart to the mix, and we have two good point guards. What are you upset about?

Just shows another recruiting failure of this staff. Local kid that frankly is better than the guards on this team and we could not close the deal.

Just to clarify, we could not recruit him as a transfer. If we had a recruiting fail, it was him out of high school.

I can't stand this entire staff as much as anyone, but their hands were tied on this one.

We all know that...we were referring to the pathetic excuse we got from folks on the staff some of us got when he committed to Rice out of HS.

Maybe they liked Caver more. Caver took a big step forward and Marcus flat-lined. I wouldn't say they were wrong about recruiting Caver over Evans, if that's what happened.
We recruited both guys. We even had Evans in for a visit. He committed to Rice the next day! He didn't want to be a Monarch. Don't give a rats about him. He was a Rhodes guy all the way, been recruited by him for years.

We have some great guards. Caver, Stith, Green, I mean come on man, these guys can play. And now Hewuitt, again I say come on man! And Godwin. Holy heck batman. We are STACKED at the guard and wing position. We may score 130 points every game. We are gonna need more basketballs. More rims. More nets. Let's gooooo!
Caver is every bit as good as Evans right now. Who knows what their respective ceilings will be, but right now I am very happy with who we have.
(04-18-2017 12:28 PM)mac Wrote: [ -> ]We recruited both guys. We even had Evans in for a visit. He committed to Rice the next day! He didn't want to be a Monarch. Don't give a rats about him. He was a Rhodes guy all the way, been recruited by him for years.

We have some great guards. Caver, Stith, Green, I mean come on man, these guys can play. And now Hewuitt, again I say come on man! And Godwin. Holy heck batman. We are STACKED at the guard and wing position. We may score 130 points every game. We are gonna need more basketballs. More rims. More nets. Let's gooooo!

I was with you until the bolded portion. We won't play fast enough to average much more than half that.
(04-18-2017 12:28 PM)mac Wrote: [ -> ]We recruited both guys. We even had Evans in for a visit. He committed to Rice the next day! He didn't want to be a Monarch. Don't give a rats about him. He was a Rhodes guy all the way, been recruited by him for years.

We have some great guards. Caver, Stith, Green, I mean come on man, these guys can play. And now Hewuitt, again I say come on man! And Godwin. Holy heck batman. We are STACKED at the guard and wing position. We may score 130 points every game. We are gonna need more basketballs. More rims. More nets. Let's gooooo!

Mac...goosebumps.

You missed Kithcart.
Here's to Rhodes and Evans being as successful at VCewageU as they were at Rice.
This thread sucks about as bad as half of the ODU fan base. Let's try to be positive about our own players for once. The obsession with VCU is ridiculous and embarrassing. And especially in regards to Mike Rhodes and Marcus Evans. Marcus Evans is a good player, nothing special. He'll never play in the NBA. Same with the coach. Rhodes was a safe hire, he knows the area, he will do a fine job. End of discussion!!! End this terrible thread!!
(04-18-2017 01:07 PM)Prideofalion Wrote: [ -> ]This thread sucks about as bad as half of the ODU fan base. Let's try to be positive about our own players for once. The obsession with VCU is ridiculous and embarrassing. And especially in regards to Mike Rhodes and Marcus Evans. Marcus Evans is a good player, nothing special. He'll never play in the NBA. Same with the coach. Rhodes was a safe hire, he knows the area, he will do a fine job. End of discussion!!! End this terrible thread!!

We're definitely a program that could use some good news.

Until then...
757 you are right about Kithcart. But, BUT I'm just talking about next year baby! Add him the following year and all I have to say is DANG MAN.
(04-18-2017 12:33 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote: [ -> ]Caver is every bit as good as Evans right now. Who knows what their respective ceilings will be, but right now I am very happy with who we have.

take off your rose colored glasses...who was CUSA rookie of the year ? Who was 1st team all conference ?
(04-18-2017 02:38 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 12:33 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote: [ -> ]Caver is every bit as good as Evans right now. Who knows what their respective ceilings will be, but right now I am very happy with who we have.

take off your rose colored glasses...who was CUSA rookie of the year ? Who was 1st team all conference ?
Did you actually watch the games? Caver outplayed Evans in both of our meetings. Handily.

Just because he puts up numbers on a **** team doesn't make him the best thing since sliced bread. Caver has a multifaceted game. Evans is a scorer and that's it.

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(04-18-2017 03:27 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 02:38 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 12:33 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote: [ -> ]Caver is every bit as good as Evans right now. Who knows what their respective ceilings will be, but right now I am very happy with who we have.

take off your rose colored glasses...who was CUSA rookie of the year ? Who was 1st team all conference ?
Did you actually watch the games? Caver outplayed Evans in both of our meetings. Handily.

Just because he puts up numbers on a **** team doesn't make him the best thing since sliced bread. Caver has a multifaceted game. Evans is a scorer and that's it.

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He was also facing double and triple teams pretty much all season long because rice didn't have much else.

It'll be very interesting to see what he does with a heck of a lot more talent around him now.

Btw this was a given.
(04-18-2017 09:06 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 03:27 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 02:38 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 12:33 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote: [ -> ]Caver is every bit as good as Evans right now. Who knows what their respective ceilings will be, but right now I am very happy with who we have.

take off your rose colored glasses...who was CUSA rookie of the year ? Who was 1st team all conference ?
Did you actually watch the games? Caver outplayed Evans in both of our meetings. Handily.

Just because he puts up numbers on a **** team doesn't make him the best thing since sliced bread. Caver has a multifaceted game. Evans is a scorer and that's it.

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

He was also facing double and triple teams pretty much all season long because rice didn't have much else.

It'll be very interesting to see what he does with a heck of a lot more talent around him now.

Btw this was a given.

Double teaming and triple teaming a guard? That is new.
(04-18-2017 02:38 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 12:33 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote: [ -> ]Caver is every bit as good as Evans right now. Who knows what their respective ceilings will be, but right now I am very happy with who we have.

take off your rose colored glasses...who was CUSA rookie of the year ? Who was 1st team all conference ?

First team all conference doesnt consider defense.

If Caver isnt as good as Evans, hes pretty darn close. Taking more shots doesnt necessarily mean a player is better.

FWIW, Egor went with Florida. Glad VCU didnt get him.
(04-19-2017 06:58 AM)757ODU Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 09:06 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 03:27 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 02:38 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 12:33 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote: [ -> ]Caver is every bit as good as Evans right now. Who knows what their respective ceilings will be, but right now I am very happy with who we have.

take off your rose colored glasses...who was CUSA rookie of the year ? Who was 1st team all conference ?
Did you actually watch the games? Caver outplayed Evans in both of our meetings. Handily.

Just because he puts up numbers on a **** team doesn't make him the best thing since sliced bread. Caver has a multifaceted game. Evans is a scorer and that's it.

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

He was also facing double and triple teams pretty much all season long because rice didn't have much else.

It'll be very interesting to see what he does with a heck of a lot more talent around him now.

Btw this was a given.

Double teaming and triple teaming a guard? That is new.

It's also total bull****.
(04-19-2017 09:07 AM)jumpshooter Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-19-2017 06:58 AM)757ODU Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 09:06 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 03:27 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 02:38 PM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote: [ -> ]take off your rose colored glasses...who was CUSA rookie of the year ? Who was 1st team all conference ?
Did you actually watch the games? Caver outplayed Evans in both of our meetings. Handily.

Just because he puts up numbers on a **** team doesn't make him the best thing since sliced bread. Caver has a multifaceted game. Evans is a scorer and that's it.

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

He was also facing double and triple teams pretty much all season long because rice didn't have much else.

It'll be very interesting to see what he does with a heck of a lot more talent around him now.

Btw this was a given.

Double teaming and triple teaming a guard? That is new.

It's also total bull****.

He absolutely faced double teams. You honestly have no clue wtf you are talking about if you do not realize that.
(04-19-2017 10:02 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-19-2017 09:07 AM)jumpshooter Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-19-2017 06:58 AM)757ODU Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 09:06 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote: [ -> ]
(04-18-2017 03:27 PM)MonarchManiac Wrote: [ -> ]Did you actually watch the games? Caver outplayed Evans in both of our meetings. Handily.

Just because he puts up numbers on a **** team doesn't make him the best thing since sliced bread. Caver has a multifaceted game. Evans is a scorer and that's it.

Sent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk

He was also facing double and triple teams pretty much all season long because rice didn't have much else.

It'll be very interesting to see what he does with a heck of a lot more talent around him now.

Btw this was a given.

Double teaming and triple teaming a guard? That is new.

It's also total bull****.

He absolutely faced double teams. You honestly have no clue wtf you are talking about if you do not realize that.

Maybe when a big hedged a screen but he was not double teamed.
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