Mike Slive spoke with a local radio duo earlier today:
Slive on Smashmouth Radio
1. Says expansion is on the back burner. Thinks we are waiting until the end of the current rights deals in early 20s.
2. Next step will be "very, very large conferences."
(03-03-2017 03:50 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]Mike Slive spoke with a local radio duo earlier today:
Slive on Smashmouth Radio
1. Says expansion is on the back burner. Thinks we are waiting until the end of the current rights deals in early 20s.
2. Next step will be "very, very large conferences."
When he speaks of a change in nature and substance I think we are talking about playoffs and leagues.
(03-03-2017 06:50 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (03-03-2017 03:50 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]Mike Slive spoke with a local radio duo earlier today:
Slive on Smashmouth Radio
1. Says expansion is on the back burner. Thinks we are waiting until the end of the current rights deals in early 20s.
2. Next step will be "very, very large conferences."
When he speaks of a change in nature and substance I think we are talking about playoffs and leagues.
Too ambiguous. Thought he was talking TV and delivery packages also.
Regardless, the news is the talk of very large conferences. I immediately think of a B1G-PAC merger or a SEC absorbtion of some B12 schools.
(03-03-2017 07:41 PM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ] (03-03-2017 06:50 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (03-03-2017 03:50 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]Mike Slive spoke with a local radio duo earlier today:
Slive on Smashmouth Radio
1. Says expansion is on the back burner. Thinks we are waiting until the end of the current rights deals in early 20s.
2. Next step will be "very, very large conferences."
When he speaks of a change in nature and substance I think we are talking about playoffs and leagues.
Too ambiguous. Thought he was talking TV and delivery packages also.
Regardless, the news is the talk of very large conferences. I immediately think of a B1G-PAC merger or a SEC absorbtion of some B12 schools.
My thoughts were of a B1G/PAC merger plus some Big 12 schools and a SEC/ACC merger plus some Big 12 schools.
There are currently 29 schools between the SEC and ACC. There are 26 between the Big 10 and PAC. If they added 6 Big 12 schools and we added 3 Big 12 schools that brings us to a total of 64.
Texas, Kansas, Iowa State, Texas Tech, Kansas State and T.C.U. to the B1G/PAC.
Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and West Virginia to the SEC/ACC
Or,
Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech to the B1G/PAC
Texas, T.C.U., and West Virginia to the SEC/ACC.
But, I can see the former more than the latter.
I'm not sure he was referring to mergers although it's certainly possible. I tend to think these leagues will max out around 20 or 22 although one of my favorites is 24 for the symmetry.
As to his comment about changes in nature and substance, I do agree that sounds a little ambiguous and that's part of what makes it intriguing. Perhaps he was just talking about how differently college athletics might function with "very, very large leagues." Perhaps he was alluding to a split between the Power leagues and the NCAA or the creation of a new division? It's hard to tell.
I tend to think though that a few G5s are going to make it in to maximize markets and provide some fodder for the big boys. Just my guess though.
Here's a theory on the idea of "very, very large leagues."
The 4 major leagues already have networks, but only the PAC doesn't have the stabilizing force of a media partner. At some point, they will have to sell though. Who do they sell to and why?
I'll start with this...Cecil Hurt once told me that the SEC would bide its time and pick apart the Big 12. Not that I have some sort of real connection to him or anything, we were simply tweeting about some thoughts on expansion a while back. He later deleted the tweet and I think that's likely because he didn't want to start any rumors. I'm taking it to the bank though...lol
Let's say this all starts by the SEC grabbing Kansas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Texas. The SEC will have captured the Southwest essentially and secured the four biggest products on the board.
The B1G doesn't really have any options left, however.
At that point, the PAC is in trouble. They don't have any major brands to add on their borders and their network doesn't have great distribution.
My theory then shifts to the idea that the PAC sells their network to FOX. Why FOX? They already own half the BTN whereas ESPN doesn't co-own anything. FOX is willing to buy half the PAC rather than all of it because they badly need the content and have a history of investing in fledgling regional networks. The alliance between the PAC and the B1G grows even stronger. The PAC protects themselves from being raided. Instead, the two leagues merge in full partly at the behest of FOX. They also add Iowa State due to politics and to create even divisions.
West: Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, California, UCLA, USC, Arizona, Arizona State
Central: Utah, Colorado, Rice, Nebraska, Iowa, Iowa State, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Illinois, Northwestern
East: Indiana, Purdue, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers, UConn
The SEC and ACC respond by merging under the banner of ESPN. They also make some strategic additions...
West: BYU, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas
Central: LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Louisville
South: Florida, Florida State, Miami, Georgia, Georgia Tech, South Carolina, Clemson, Cincinnati, Virginia Tech
North: Notre Dame, North Carolina, NC State, Duke, Wake Forest, Virginia, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Boston College
(03-03-2017 07:46 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (03-03-2017 07:41 PM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ] (03-03-2017 06:50 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (03-03-2017 03:50 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]Mike Slive spoke with a local radio duo earlier today:
Slive on Smashmouth Radio
1. Says expansion is on the back burner. Thinks we are waiting until the end of the current rights deals in early 20s.
2. Next step will be "very, very large conferences."
When he speaks of a change in nature and substance I think we are talking about playoffs and leagues.
Too ambiguous. Thought he was talking TV and delivery packages also.
Regardless, the news is the talk of very large conferences. I immediately think of a B1G-PAC merger or a SEC absorbtion of some B12 schools.
My thoughts were of a B1G/PAC merger plus some Big 12 schools and a SEC/ACC merger plus some Big 12 schools.
There are currently 29 schools between the SEC and ACC. There are 26 between the Big 10 and PAC. If they added 6 Big 12 schools and we added 3 Big 12 schools that brings us to a total of 64.
Texas, Kansas, Iowa State, Texas Tech, Kansas State and T.C.U. to the B1G/PAC.
Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and West Virginia to the SEC/ACC
Or,
Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech to the B1G/PAC
Texas, T.C.U., and West Virginia to the SEC/ACC.
But, I can see the former more than the latter.
Two large conferences:
Currently there are 65 teams in the P leagues.
Question #1: is Notre Dame all in or partially in?
Must have for FOX (B1G/PAC): A way to tie both halves of the country through a classic rivalry....to make the middle important and involved. The ONLY solution is to move Oklahoma into the B1G/PAC to rekindle the Nebraska/Oklahoma rivalry.
That being the case, the simplest solution would be for the SEC/ACC to take all four schools in Texas from the Big 12 and allow the B1G/PAC to have the other 6 (which would include West Virginia). This of course assumes that Notre Dame stays semi independent in football but tied to the ACC for other sports.
This is a simple divide and does not require movement of any other schools. The 32 team conferences could then be broken down into four 8 team divisions to facilitate regional play.
The only other possibility that I can see looking at a map is the possibility of a trade of Maryland for Missouri (before you reject the notion just sit on it for a little while). This move basically reunites the Big 8 with the PAC/B1G team and provides continuity to the most blended conference while on the other side it solidifies the mid-atlantic for the ACC/SEC team.
If Notre Dame were to join on a full time basis, somebody would have to be left out and I'm not prepared to make that call.
I don't see the ACC/SEC giving up a location within Texas so I do see the necessity of the B1G/PAC to take West Virginia.
A scenario for a P3 with the ACC?
Penn St, Maryland & Rutgers move to the ACC so that the B1G can bring in USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, Oregon, Washington, Utah & Colorado from the PAC. Kansas puts them at 20.
The SEC grabs Texas, Oklahoma, Arizona, Arizona State, Oklahoma State & Iowa State for 20. (Could substitute ISt for another Texas school but the SEC would already have Texas.)
The ACC is handed Penn St, Maryland & Rutgers. ND joins in full. WV & either UCONN or Cincinnati rounds out the ACC at 20.
TT, TCU, Baylor, Kansas State, Oregon St & Washington St are out.
B1G
USC, UCLA, Stanford, Cal, Kansas
Oregon, Washington, Utah, Colorado, Iowa
Wisconsin, Minnesota, Nebraska, Illinois, Northwestern
Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Indiana, Purdue
SEC
Texas, Oklahoma, Arizona, Arizona State, Oklahoma State
A&M, LSU, Missouri, Arkansas, Iowa State
Florida, Georgia, SC, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Alabama, Auburn, Ole Miss, Miss State, Kentucky
ACC
ND, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Maryland
FSU, Clemson, Miami, GT, BC
NC, Duke, Virginia, NC State, WF
VT, Louisville, WV, Rutgers, Cincinnati/UCONN
(Just spitballing an idea.)
(03-04-2017 11:21 AM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ] (03-03-2017 07:46 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (03-03-2017 07:41 PM)murrdcu Wrote: [ -> ] (03-03-2017 06:50 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (03-03-2017 03:50 PM)AllTideUp Wrote: [ -> ]Mike Slive spoke with a local radio duo earlier today:
Slive on Smashmouth Radio
1. Says expansion is on the back burner. Thinks we are waiting until the end of the current rights deals in early 20s.
2. Next step will be "very, very large conferences."
When he speaks of a change in nature and substance I think we are talking about playoffs and leagues.
Too ambiguous. Thought he was talking TV and delivery packages also.
Regardless, the news is the talk of very large conferences. I immediately think of a B1G-PAC merger or a SEC absorbtion of some B12 schools.
My thoughts were of a B1G/PAC merger plus some Big 12 schools and a SEC/ACC merger plus some Big 12 schools.
There are currently 29 schools between the SEC and ACC. There are 26 between the Big 10 and PAC. If they added 6 Big 12 schools and we added 3 Big 12 schools that brings us to a total of 64.
Texas, Kansas, Iowa State, Texas Tech, Kansas State and T.C.U. to the B1G/PAC.
Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and West Virginia to the SEC/ACC
Or,
Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas Tech to the B1G/PAC
Texas, T.C.U., and West Virginia to the SEC/ACC.
But, I can see the former more than the latter.
Two large conferences:
Currently there are 65 teams in the P leagues.
Question #1: is Notre Dame all in or partially in?
Must have for FOX (B1G/PAC): A way to tie both halves of the country through a classic rivalry....to make the middle important and involved. The ONLY solution is to move Oklahoma into the B1G/PAC to rekindle the Nebraska/Oklahoma rivalry.
That being the case, the simplest solution would be for the SEC/ACC to take all four schools in Texas from the Big 12 and allow the B1G/PAC to have the other 6 (which would include West Virginia). This of course assumes that Notre Dame stays semi independent in football but tied to the ACC for other sports.
This is a simple divide and does not require movement of any other schools. The 32 team conferences could then be broken down into four 8 team divisions to facilitate regional play.
The only other possibility that I can see looking at a map is the possibility of a trade of Maryland for Missouri (before you reject the notion just sit on it for a little while). This move basically reunites the Big 8 with the PAC/B1G team and provides continuity to the most blended conference while on the other side it solidifies the mid-atlantic for the ACC/SEC team.
If Notre Dame were to join on a full time basis, somebody would have to be left out and I'm not prepared to make that call.
I don't see the ACC/SEC giving up a location within Texas so I do see the necessity of the B1G/PAC to take West Virginia.
There are other logical ways to make the divide. Let's take a look at one possible solution to the problem. Who is to say that we limit it to 65. To me the logical thing would be to include those who would have the best gripe about non inclusion. If the service academies, which have been waffling lately about this matter, decide they do want into the mix then you simply add the next 4 most worthy schools. I'd suggest B.Y.U., Connecticut, Cincinnati, and either Houston or San Diego State.
If that were to happen I would also suggest that the service academies might prefer to play the quality of athlete that many, not all, Big 10 and PAC schools might field as opposed to those in the SEC and now in much of the ACC.
So a swap of Navy for Maryland in this case would be more in order. I would also suggest that if they wanted to tie the heartland into the field of interest of the two coasts that Texas, Texas Tech, and T.C.U. to the PAC actually makes more sense than the Oklahoma's. Why? Nebraska and Oklahoma while an old rivalry would not involve the number of TV sets that Texas would provide to the PAC. Since the SEC has A&M that gives both leagues an interest in the largest viewing market that could be shared between the two.
The league concept could be a creative way to get around conference prejudices. It might enable the inclusion of B.Y.U. where the Big 10 and PAC conference protocols would not. Ditto for WVU so your idea of moving them West might be appropriate.
So let's see what the flexibility of 36 does for each league:
Big 10/PAC:
Army, Navy, Ohio State, Rutgers, Penn State, West Virginia
Illinois, Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Northwestern, Purdue
Iowa, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Minnesota, Wisconsin
Air Force, Brigham Young, Colorado, Nebraska, Texas, T.C.U.
Arizona, Arizona State, Texas Tech, U.C.L.A., U.S.C., Utah
California, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, Washington, Washington State
SEC/ACC:
Boston College, Cincinnati, Connecticut, Notre Dame, Pittsburgh, Syracuse
Duke, Maryland, North Carolina, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Wake Forest
Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Georgia Tech, N.C. State, Vanderbilt
Alabama, Florida State, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee, South Carolina,
Arkansas, Houston, L.S.U., Louisville, Mississippi, Mississippi State
Baylor, Miami, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M
You have 12 games. 11 against your division and one permanent rival.
The three division champs and the best at large meet in a 4 team playoff for the league championship. The two league champions play for the National Championship.
I don't really know what the PAC/B1G would be thinking here as far as additions beyond a couple of obvious choices. I don't think they're going to get OU and UT though. If the SEC/ACC is willing to offer OSU and TT and maybe even a couple of others then I think that seals the deal.
SEC/ACC merger + BYU, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Baylor, Texas Tech, and Cincinnati = 36
West: BYU, Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Missouri, Arkansas
South: LSU, Ole Miss, Mississippi State, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, South Carolina
East: Miami, Georgia Tech, Clemson, North Carolina, North Carolina State, Duke, Wake Forest, Virginia, Virginia Tech
North: Notre Dame, Cincinnati, Kentucky, Louisville, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Boston College
That's 4 divisions of 9. You play 8 division games and the other 4 are free for you to schedule either non-conference or interdivisional. Your divisional record is the only thing that counts, however, towards whether or not you make the conference playoffs. There are conference semis obviously and the conference champions play for the national title.
Just for discussion's sake.
Most conventional wisdom says that a merger of the SEC and the ACC would be likely if we would consolidate to two huge conferences,
BUT what happens if it goes another way and the SEC takes the majority of the Big 12 and the PAC and the ACC actually merges with the B1G?
For the sake of argument:
The ACC + B1G adding Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State AND Missouri plus Notre Dame full time.
The SEC takes the Big 12 + the PAC and adds BYU.
66 teams, two conferences with three divisions of 11.
SEC/PAC/Big 12
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Auburn, Alabama, Mississippi, Miss. State and West Virginia
Arkansas, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, LSU, Colorado, BYU
Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, California, Southern Cal, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah
ACC/B1G
Purdue, Notre Dame, Boston College, Syracuse, Rutgers, Penn State, Pitt, Louisville, Ohio State Michigan, Michigan State
Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Iowa State, Nebraska, Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri
Maryland, UVa, Va. Tech, Carolina, NC State, Wake Forest, Dook, Clemson, Ga. Tech, Florida State, and Miami
Well, it makes sense to me!
(03-05-2017 10:04 PM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ]Just for discussion's sake.
Most conventional wisdom says that a merger of the SEC and the ACC would be likely if we would consolidate to two huge conferences, BUT what happens if it goes another way and the SEC takes the majority of the Big 12 and the PAC and the ACC actually merges with the B1G?
For the sake of argument:
The ACC + B1G adding Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State AND Missouri plus Notre Dame full time.
The SEC takes the Big 12 + the PAC and adds BYU.
66 teams, two conferences with three divisions of 11.
SEC/PAC/Big 12
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Auburn, Alabama, Mississippi, Miss. State and West Virginia
Arkansas, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, LSU, Colorado, BYU
Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, California, Southern Cal, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah
ACC/B1G
Purdue, Notre Dame, Boston College, Syracuse, Rutgers, Penn State, Pitt, Louisville, Ohio State Michigan, Michigan State
Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Iowa State, Nebraska, Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri
Maryland, UVa, Va. Tech, Carolina, NC State, Wake Forest, Dook, Clemson, Ga. Tech, Florida State, and Miami
Well, it makes sense to me!
Missouri schedules Iowa State? New conference match up?
(03-07-2017 08:49 PM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ] (03-05-2017 10:04 PM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ]Just for discussion's sake.
Most conventional wisdom says that a merger of the SEC and the ACC would be likely if we would consolidate to two huge conferences, BUT what happens if it goes another way and the SEC takes the majority of the Big 12 and the PAC and the ACC actually merges with the B1G?
For the sake of argument:
The ACC + B1G adding Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State AND Missouri plus Notre Dame full time.
The SEC takes the Big 12 + the PAC and adds BYU.
66 teams, two conferences with three divisions of 11.
SEC/PAC/Big 12
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Auburn, Alabama, Mississippi, Miss. State and West Virginia
Arkansas, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, LSU, Colorado, BYU
Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, California, Southern Cal, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah
ACC/B1G
Purdue, Notre Dame, Boston College, Syracuse, Rutgers, Penn State, Pitt, Louisville, Ohio State Michigan, Michigan State
Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Iowa State, Nebraska, Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri
Maryland, UVa, Va. Tech, Carolina, NC State, Wake Forest, Dook, Clemson, Ga. Tech, Florida State, and Miami
Well, it makes sense to me!
Missouri schedules Iowa State? New conference match up?
Nah! Some of the ACC wouldn't go for it. Notre Dame might not go for it either.
(03-07-2017 09:00 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2017 08:49 PM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ] (03-05-2017 10:04 PM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ]Just for discussion's sake.
Most conventional wisdom says that a merger of the SEC and the ACC would be likely if we would consolidate to two huge conferences, BUT what happens if it goes another way and the SEC takes the majority of the Big 12 and the PAC and the ACC actually merges with the B1G?
For the sake of argument:
The ACC + B1G adding Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State AND Missouri plus Notre Dame full time.
The SEC takes the Big 12 + the PAC and adds BYU.
66 teams, two conferences with three divisions of 11.
SEC/PAC/Big 12
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Auburn, Alabama, Mississippi, Miss. State and West Virginia
Arkansas, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, LSU, Colorado, BYU
Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, California, Southern Cal, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah
ACC/B1G
Purdue, Notre Dame, Boston College, Syracuse, Rutgers, Penn State, Pitt, Louisville, Ohio State Michigan, Michigan State
Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Iowa State, Nebraska, Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri
Maryland, UVa, Va. Tech, Carolina, NC State, Wake Forest, Dook, Clemson, Ga. Tech, Florida State, and Miami
Well, it makes sense to me!
Missouri schedules Iowa State? New conference match up?
Nah! Some of the ACC wouldn't go for it. Notre Dame might not go for it either.
There isn't one single school in the pre-current ACC configuration, that wouldn't give their left one to have that 11 team division.
IMO this is the most logical and most likely split IF we were only going to have 2 conferences. It's regional, it's balanced and gives you JR every thing you have always dreamed of with the exception of schools in North Carolina and Virginia, and it's contiguous.
(03-08-2017 08:06 AM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2017 09:00 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2017 08:49 PM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ] (03-05-2017 10:04 PM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ]Just for discussion's sake.
Most conventional wisdom says that a merger of the SEC and the ACC would be likely if we would consolidate to two huge conferences, BUT what happens if it goes another way and the SEC takes the majority of the Big 12 and the PAC and the ACC actually merges with the B1G?
For the sake of argument:
The ACC + B1G adding Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State AND Missouri plus Notre Dame full time.
The SEC takes the Big 12 + the PAC and adds BYU.
66 teams, two conferences with three divisions of 11.
SEC/PAC/Big 12
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Auburn, Alabama, Mississippi, Miss. State and West Virginia
Arkansas, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, LSU, Colorado, BYU
Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, California, Southern Cal, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah
ACC/B1G
Purdue, Notre Dame, Boston College, Syracuse, Rutgers, Penn State, Pitt, Louisville, Ohio State Michigan, Michigan State
Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Iowa State, Nebraska, Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri
Maryland, UVa, Va. Tech, Carolina, NC State, Wake Forest, Dook, Clemson, Ga. Tech, Florida State, and Miami
Well, it makes sense to me!
Missouri schedules Iowa State? New conference match up?
Nah! Some of the ACC wouldn't go for it. Notre Dame might not go for it either.
There isn't one single school in the pre-current ACC configuration, that wouldn't give their left one to have that 11 team division.
IMO this is the most logical and most likely split IF we were only going to have 2 conferences. It's regional, it's balanced and gives you JR every thing you have always dreamed of with the exception of schools in North Carolina and Virginia, and it's contiguous.
My dream was about a consolidated Southeast. It's never, even in a nightmare, included PAC schools!
(03-08-2017 01:38 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2017 08:06 AM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2017 09:00 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2017 08:49 PM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ] (03-05-2017 10:04 PM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ]Just for discussion's sake.
Most conventional wisdom says that a merger of the SEC and the ACC would be likely if we would consolidate to two huge conferences, BUT what happens if it goes another way and the SEC takes the majority of the Big 12 and the PAC and the ACC actually merges with the B1G?
For the sake of argument:
The ACC + B1G adding Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State AND Missouri plus Notre Dame full time.
The SEC takes the Big 12 + the PAC and adds BYU.
66 teams, two conferences with three divisions of 11.
SEC/PAC/Big 12
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Auburn, Alabama, Mississippi, Miss. State and West Virginia
Arkansas, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, LSU, Colorado, BYU
Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, California, Southern Cal, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah
ACC/B1G
Purdue, Notre Dame, Boston College, Syracuse, Rutgers, Penn State, Pitt, Louisville, Ohio State Michigan, Michigan State
Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Iowa State, Nebraska, Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri
Maryland, UVa, Va. Tech, Carolina, NC State, Wake Forest, Dook, Clemson, Ga. Tech, Florida State, and Miami
Well, it makes sense to me!
Missouri schedules Iowa State? New conference match up?
Nah! Some of the ACC wouldn't go for it. Notre Dame might not go for it either.
There isn't one single school in the pre-current ACC configuration, that wouldn't give their left one to have that 11 team division.
IMO this is the most logical and most likely split IF we were only going to have 2 conferences. It's regional, it's balanced and gives you JR every thing you have always dreamed of with the exception of schools in North Carolina and Virginia, and it's contiguous.
My dream was about a consolidated Southeast. It's never, even in a nightmare, included PAC schools!
I would prefer our current division over that one. I would prefer southeastern teams over midwestern teams, not that it would be unacceptable. I saw a Twitter poll awhile ago that asked Louisville fans that if we weren't in the ACC, would we prefer the SEC or B1G? To me it was a no brainer & I figured that the SEC would win in a landslide, I was wrong. Not that the poll is accurate but I found it interesting that the B1G actually received more votes, I may be in the minority.
(03-10-2017 10:40 AM)Lenvillecards Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2017 01:38 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (03-08-2017 08:06 AM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2017 09:00 PM)JRsec Wrote: [ -> ] (03-07-2017 08:49 PM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ]Missouri schedules Iowa State? New conference match up?
Nah! Some of the ACC wouldn't go for it. Notre Dame might not go for it either.
There isn't one single school in the pre-current ACC configuration, that wouldn't give their left one to have that 11 team division.
IMO this is the most logical and most likely split IF we were only going to have 2 conferences. It's regional, it's balanced and gives you JR every thing you have always dreamed of with the exception of schools in North Carolina and Virginia, and it's contiguous.
My dream was about a consolidated Southeast. It's never, even in a nightmare, included PAC schools!
I would prefer our current division over that one. I would prefer southeastern teams over midwestern teams, not that it would be unacceptable. I saw a Twitter poll awhile ago that asked Louisville fans that if we weren't in the ACC, would we prefer the SEC or B1G? To me it was a no brainer & I figured that the SEC would win in a landslide, I was wrong. Not that the poll is accurate but I found it interesting that the B1G actually received more votes, I may be in the minority.
No telling who votes in online polls. Could have been a bunch of Kentucky fans wanting Louisville as far from the SEC as possible.
(03-07-2017 08:49 PM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ] (03-05-2017 10:04 PM)XLance Wrote: [ -> ]Just for discussion's sake.
Most conventional wisdom says that a merger of the SEC and the ACC would be likely if we would consolidate to two huge conferences, BUT what happens if it goes another way and the SEC takes the majority of the Big 12 and the PAC and the ACC actually merges with the B1G?
For the sake of argument:
The ACC + B1G adding Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State AND Missouri plus Notre Dame full time.
The SEC takes the Big 12 + the PAC and adds BYU.
66 teams, two conferences with three divisions of 11.
SEC/PAC/Big 12
Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Auburn, Alabama, Mississippi, Miss. State and West Virginia
Arkansas, Oklahoma State, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A&M, Baylor, TCU, Texas Tech, LSU, Colorado, BYU
Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Stanford, California, Southern Cal, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona State, and Utah
ACC/B1G
Purdue, Notre Dame, Boston College, Syracuse, Rutgers, Penn State, Pitt, Louisville, Ohio State Michigan, Michigan State
Indiana, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Iowa State, Nebraska, Kansas, Kansas State and Missouri
Maryland, UVa, Va. Tech, Carolina, NC State, Wake Forest, Dook, Clemson, Ga. Tech, Florida State, and Miami
Well, it makes sense to me!
Missouri schedules Iowa State? New conference match up?
Uh no... I fear CFB is going to implode all the conference traditions that made it so popular. They can really screw this up.