It should be every American's wish that President Donald Trump can continue this trend!
Quote:Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
The media has not reported that the National Debt in my first month went down by $12 billion vs a $200 billion increase in Obama first mo.
But, but he spent more on travel!
This topic has already been covered. He's not responsible for the decrease.
I love it!
America finally has a real leader.
(02-25-2017 04:16 PM)Kruciff Wrote: [ -> ]This topic has already been covered. He's not responsible for the decrease.
Where? I didn't see one positive post or news report that the national dept has decreased in the last 30 days.
(02-25-2017 04:37 PM)Dasville Wrote: [ -> ] (02-25-2017 04:16 PM)Kruciff Wrote: [ -> ]This topic has already been covered. He's not responsible for the decrease.
Where? I didn't see one positive post or news report that the national dept has decreased in the last 30 days.
http://csnbbs.com/thread-810095.html
This is now the reality that the left lives in. Where Politifact says that the numbers check out, but label the claim to be "Mostly false".
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Isn't it politifacts job to explain why not just say true or false?
(02-26-2017 03:47 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]This is now the reality that the left lives in. Where Politifact says that the numbers check out, but label the claim to be "Mostly false".
Why don't you finish that quote?
Here. I'll do it for you.
Link
Quote:"...But, experts say, people shouldn’t read much into the numbers. Nor should Trump be popping champagne.
Considering that Trump hasn’t enacted any fiscal legislation, it’s a bit of a stretch for him to take credit for any changes in debt levels," Dan Mitchell, a libertarian economist and senior fellow at the Cato Institute, told us.
"Debt levels go up and down in the short run based on independent factors such as quarterly tax payments and predetermined expenditure patterns," he said.
The White House did not respond to our query for this fact-check.
(02-26-2017 03:59 PM)Kruciff Wrote: [ -> ] (02-26-2017 03:47 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]This is now the reality that the left lives in. Where Politifact says that the numbers check out, but label the claim to be "Mostly false".
Why don't you finish that quote?
Here. I'll do it for you.
Link
Quote:"...But, experts say, people shouldn’t read much into the numbers. Nor should Trump be popping champagne.
Considering that Trump hasn’t enacted any fiscal legislation, it’s a bit of a stretch for him to take credit for any changes in debt levels," Dan Mitchell, a libertarian economist and senior fellow at the Cato Institute, told us.
"Debt levels go up and down in the short run based on independent factors such as quarterly tax payments and predetermined expenditure patterns," he said.
The White House did not respond to our query for this fact-check.
Yes, speculate and wrestle with the facts to justify your bias. Pathetic.
Trump's quote in and of itself is what was being judged, and it was 100% true. To end up on a label with "Mostly False" is a joke.
(02-26-2017 04:10 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ] (02-26-2017 03:59 PM)Kruciff Wrote: [ -> ] (02-26-2017 03:47 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ]This is now the reality that the left lives in. Where Politifact says that the numbers check out, but label the claim to be "Mostly false".
Why don't you finish that quote?
Here. I'll do it for you.
Link
Quote:"...But, experts say, people shouldn’t read much into the numbers. Nor should Trump be popping champagne.
Considering that Trump hasn’t enacted any fiscal legislation, it’s a bit of a stretch for him to take credit for any changes in debt levels," Dan Mitchell, a libertarian economist and senior fellow at the Cato Institute, told us.
"Debt levels go up and down in the short run based on independent factors such as quarterly tax payments and predetermined expenditure patterns," he said.
The White House did not respond to our query for this fact-check.
Yes, speculate and wrestle with the facts to justify your bias. Pathetic.
Trump's quote in and of itself is what was being judged, and it was 100% true. To end up on a label with "Mostly False" is a joke.
Wrestle with what fact? The fact that Trump hasn't done anything at all in his first month to address anything regarding finances at all? There's no wrestling with that, you just got called out for intentionally cropping a quote before the rating could explain. It's completely dishonest on your part. Trump made that statement to take credit, when the credit was not his, and that's what he was rated on. Wrestle with that fact however you want.
It would be more accurate of politifact to say True...But instead of mostly false. When they say mostly false it crushes their credibility. The deficit is down...no one can dispute that but how much trump had to do with it is debatable
Lol I neg rep Kronke -1 for spreading misinformation. He neg reps me -3 cause he's a snowflake. Guess I know who won the argument.
(02-26-2017 04:38 PM)Kruciff Wrote: [ -> ]Lol I neg rep Kronke -1 for spreading misinformation. He neg reps me -3 cause he's a snowflake. Guess I know who won the argument.
Politifact is the one spreading misinformation. Is the debt down $12 billion? YES. Period. Anything beyond that is spin.
Regarding who is the snowflake, you're the one crying about it.
(02-26-2017 04:47 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ] (02-26-2017 04:38 PM)Kruciff Wrote: [ -> ]Lol I neg rep Kronke -1 for spreading misinformation. He neg reps me -3 cause he's a snowflake. Guess I know who won the argument.
Politifact is the one spreading misinformation. Is the debt down $12 billion? YES. Period. Anything beyond that is spin.
Regarding who is the snowflake, you're the one crying about it.
I'm sure if I said the unemployment rate was at an all time low since the GWB era you'd have a couple of complaints about that.
It's plain and simply obvious why Politifact rated that claim mostly false, not even entirely false. He's not responsible, Trump claimed he is. It's misleading on the end of more false than not. Get over it.
I'm not crying about anything lol. You're the one who's wrong and threw a neg rep hissy fit.
(02-26-2017 04:52 PM)Kruciff Wrote: [ -> ] (02-26-2017 04:47 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ] (02-26-2017 04:38 PM)Kruciff Wrote: [ -> ]Lol I neg rep Kronke -1 for spreading misinformation. He neg reps me -3 cause he's a snowflake. Guess I know who won the argument.
Politifact is the one spreading misinformation. Is the debt down $12 billion? YES. Period. Anything beyond that is spin.
Regarding who is the snowflake, you're the one crying about it.
I'm sure if I said the unemployment rate was at an all time low since the GWB era you'd have a couple of complaints about that.
It's plain and simply obvious why Politifact rated that claim mostly false, not even entirely false. He's not responsible, Trump claimed he is. It's misleading on the end of more false than not. Get over it.
I'm not crying about anything lol. You're the one who's wrong and threw a neg rep hissy fit.
You negged me first, snowflake. I usually don't neg anyone.
(02-26-2017 04:53 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ] (02-26-2017 04:52 PM)Kruciff Wrote: [ -> ] (02-26-2017 04:47 PM)Kronke Wrote: [ -> ] (02-26-2017 04:38 PM)Kruciff Wrote: [ -> ]Lol I neg rep Kronke -1 for spreading misinformation. He neg reps me -3 cause he's a snowflake. Guess I know who won the argument.
Politifact is the one spreading misinformation. Is the debt down $12 billion? YES. Period. Anything beyond that is spin.
Regarding who is the snowflake, you're the one crying about it.
I'm sure if I said the unemployment rate was at an all time low since the GWB era you'd have a couple of complaints about that.
It's plain and simply obvious why Politifact rated that claim mostly false, not even entirely false. He's not responsible, Trump claimed he is. It's misleading on the end of more false than not. Get over it.
I'm not crying about anything lol. You're the one who's wrong and threw a neg rep hissy fit.
You negged me first, snowflake. I usually don't neg anyone.
I negged you 1 because you were intentionally withholding information to support your argument.
You negged me 3 because "
Insert reason here".