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Please stop already!

But it won't. It started five minutes after he was hired and here we are in the middle of February. I can't imagine how this is fun for Tiger fans.
(02-15-2017 06:34 PM)HoopDreams Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2017 05:50 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2017 02:13 PM)HoopDreams Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2017 02:09 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2017 10:05 AM)HoopDreams Wrote: [ -> ]At the same date in the season:

Beard is 17-9 and 5-8 in league

Tubby was 16-9 and 6-7.

I'll let everyone else decide which is better, if either are.

No one has to "decide", it's pretty simple. Tubby was a game better. We can revisit at the end of the season, too.

Huh?

Come on, aren't you smarter than that? League schedule 13 games in, Tubby is +1. Or if you want to go full schedule 26 games in, they were the same.

Original question I asked still stands. Are you thinking that Beard is outperforming what Tubby did last year?

WTF?

17 is more than 16. That's overall wins. As basic as it gets.

I never said anyone was outperforming anyone.

You did.

On a side note, don't think you want to start discussing conference marks given the job you think Tubby did at TT and MN. Here's a hint. He never had a record above .500 at either place in league play.

Not saying one way or the other but schedule (playing round robin who does TTU have left), injuries, etc affect record.
(02-15-2017 06:34 PM)HoopDreams Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2017 05:50 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2017 02:13 PM)HoopDreams Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2017 02:09 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2017 10:05 AM)HoopDreams Wrote: [ -> ]At the same date in the season:

Beard is 17-9 and 5-8 in league

Tubby was 16-9 and 6-7.

I'll let everyone else decide which is better, if either are.

No one has to "decide", it's pretty simple. Tubby was a game better. We can revisit at the end of the season, too.

Huh?

Come on, aren't you smarter than that? League schedule 13 games in, Tubby is +1. Or if you want to go full schedule 26 games in, they were the same.

Original question I asked still stands. Are you thinking that Beard is outperforming what Tubby did last year?

WTF?

17 is more than 16. That's overall wins. As basic as it gets.

I never said anyone was outperforming anyone.

You did.

On a side note, don't think you want to start discussing conference marks given the job you think Tubby did at TT and MN. Here's a hint. He never had a record above .500 at either place in league play.

Ok. Math is not your strong suit. You struggle with logic too, so let's break this down.

You listed the conf schedule 13 games in for both guys. Tubby is clearly a game up. I also think it will widen as the season concludes and TTU will not make the tourney, which will clearly show who had the better season, but we can table that for a few weeks.

You listed the overall schedule with one fewer game for Tubby. If you want to use that at 26 games, then they have the same record. If you illogically want to compare Beard to Tubby with Beard playing one more game, then you're not even as smart as I give you credit.

You didn't say anyone was outperforming - you chimed in when I quoted and honestly asked another poster to clarify what his thoughts were. So if you don't like the question, then probably shouldn't jump in when I ask it of someone else.

Finally on your side note, you are getting back in that unreasonable perspective of thinking all programs are equal - at least when it fits your agenda. Here's a hint. They aren't and you're in a tenuous position.
Long rambling response = guilt
(02-15-2017 10:29 PM)HoopDreams Wrote: [ -> ]Long rambling response = guilt

SIGH

You try to convince people you've got all the answers. Until it's proven you don't. Then it's back to the junior high retort.
02-13-banana
(02-15-2017 10:34 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2017 10:29 PM)HoopDreams Wrote: [ -> ]Long rambling response = guilt

SIGH

You try to convince people you've got all the answers. Until it's proven you don't. Then it's back to the junior high retort.

I think trying to compare the same team's record from one year to next when it's this close is just plain dumb.
32%>9%
(02-15-2017 10:24 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2017 06:34 PM)HoopDreams Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2017 05:50 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2017 02:13 PM)HoopDreams Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2017 02:09 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: [ -> ]No one has to "decide", it's pretty simple. Tubby was a game better. We can revisit at the end of the season, too.

Huh?

Come on, aren't you smarter than that? League schedule 13 games in, Tubby is +1. Or if you want to go full schedule 26 games in, they were the same.

Original question I asked still stands. Are you thinking that Beard is outperforming what Tubby did last year?

WTF?

17 is more than 16. That's overall wins. As basic as it gets.

I never said anyone was outperforming anyone.

You did.

On a side note, don't think you want to start discussing conference marks given the job you think Tubby did at TT and MN. Here's a hint. He never had a record above .500 at either place in league play.

Ok. Math is not your strong suit. You struggle with logic too, so let's break this down.

You listed the conf schedule 13 games in for both guys. Tubby is clearly a game up. I also think it will widen as the season concludes and TTU will not make the tourney, which will clearly show who had the better season, but we can table that for a few weeks.

You listed the overall schedule with one fewer game for Tubby. If you want to use that at 26 games, then they have the same record. If you illogically want to compare Beard to Tubby with Beard playing one more game, then you're not even as smart as I give you credit.

You didn't say anyone was outperforming - you chimed in when I quoted and honestly asked another poster to clarify what his thoughts were. So if you don't like the question, then probably shouldn't jump in when I ask it of someone else.

Finally on your side note, you are getting back in that unreasonable perspective of thinking all programs are equal - at least when it fits your agenda. Here's a hint. They aren't and you're in a tenuous position.

SOS TTU 90 Tigers 153 1 more win is NOT enough to claim outperforming someone one.

for the record just checking emails not back yet.
(02-16-2017 12:09 PM)ncrdbl1 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2017 10:24 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2017 06:34 PM)HoopDreams Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2017 05:50 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-15-2017 02:13 PM)HoopDreams Wrote: [ -> ]Huh?

Come on, aren't you smarter than that? League schedule 13 games in, Tubby is +1. Or if you want to go full schedule 26 games in, they were the same.

Original question I asked still stands. Are you thinking that Beard is outperforming what Tubby did last year?

WTF?

17 is more than 16. That's overall wins. As basic as it gets.

I never said anyone was outperforming anyone.

You did.

On a side note, don't think you want to start discussing conference marks given the job you think Tubby did at TT and MN. Here's a hint. He never had a record above .500 at either place in league play.

Ok. Math is not your strong suit. You struggle with logic too, so let's break this down.

You listed the conf schedule 13 games in for both guys. Tubby is clearly a game up. I also think it will widen as the season concludes and TTU will not make the tourney, which will clearly show who had the better season, but we can table that for a few weeks.

You listed the overall schedule with one fewer game for Tubby. If you want to use that at 26 games, then they have the same record. If you illogically want to compare Beard to Tubby with Beard playing one more game, then you're not even as smart as I give you credit.

You didn't say anyone was outperforming - you chimed in when I quoted and honestly asked another poster to clarify what his thoughts were. So if you don't like the question, then probably shouldn't jump in when I ask it of someone else.

Finally on your side note, you are getting back in that unreasonable perspective of thinking all programs are equal - at least when it fits your agenda. Here's a hint. They aren't and you're in a tenuous position.

SOS TTU 90 Tigers 153 1 more win is NOT enough to claim outperforming someone one.

for the record just checking emails not back yet.

re-Read the thread
(02-15-2017 10:01 AM)salukiblue Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-14-2017 09:26 PM)DALLAS TIGER 78 Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-14-2017 07:10 PM)macgar32 Wrote: [ -> ]Two ways you can take that...

He prepared them to be where they are now...

He underachieved last year based on the talent that was there.

You left out a third possibility. He's a good recruiter.

That's all well and good except that Beard was only left with...wait for it...eight scholarship players when he came to Tech.

Beard essentially plays five of the guys Tubby left behind--three as starters and two off the bench.

So, two of the starters on the team are guys Beard signed in April, and two of the bench guys he plays are summer pickups also.

But let's just keep facts out of this and ride on the idea that Tubby left Beard 13 scholarship players who all were ready to go from day one.

Wow, wait a minute. You mean a coach came in late and actually add d some impact players to his roster. Based on what I've read from some on here that's not possible.......
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