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Thanks to most of you who provided incredible insight (and sometimes insider info) over the years. While I'm not happy with what our AD has done with hiring and how our men's basketball team is doing right now, I'm finished with these boards. They have been ruined by a few unmoderated folks who think their lives have been ruined by Jeff Jones. Every thread turns into the same ridiculous argument, and the moderators have let it go.

If you have any interest in starting a new message board for ODU please let me know. It will be moderated. All opinions will be welcome, but constant repetition and personal attacks will not be.
(02-08-2017 10:43 PM)ODU Hoops Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks to most of you who provided incredible insight (and sometimes insider info) over the years. While I'm not happy with what our AD has done with hiring and how our men's basketball team is doing right now, I'm finished with these boards. They have been ruined by a few unmoderated folks who think their lives have been ruined by Jeff Jones. Every thread turns into the same ridiculous argument, and the moderators have let it go.

If you have any interest in starting a new message board for ODU please let me know. It will be moderated. All opinions will be welcome, but constant repetition and personal attacks will not be.
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Fire the Moderators!!!

LOL
Seriously though, do you realize you are describing Monarch Nation... which no longer exists because there was absolutely no discussion there once they started deleting every post that questioned BT?

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(02-08-2017 10:56 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: [ -> ]Seriously though, do you realize you are describing Monarch Nation... which no longer exists because there was absolutely no discussion there once they started deleting every post that questioned BT?

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Yes, and I think you might be overestimating what level of moderation I am talking about. All opinions will be be welcome, but ruining every thread with the same content won't be. If you aren't interested, I welcome you to not join. If you would like to have an adult conversation about where ODU has gone right or wrong with their athletic program, then we would love to have you. I promise you it won't be the same as this.

I won't start it if there isn't interest, but please let me know via pm if you would be interested in something different.
(02-08-2017 10:56 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: [ -> ]Seriously though, do you realize you are describing Monarch Nation... which no longer exists because there was absolutely no discussion there once they started deleting every post that questioned BT?

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Bingo. That board died because it became a giant circle jerk.

Even worse, there were actually posters defending a drunken Blaine taylor making a total ass of himself and the university at the coach's show by saying he just "had a cold".

Some people refuse to look at reality and prefer to always look on the bright side. Am I probably overly negative and pessimistic? Yeah probably. But I've also been right a lot more than I've been wrong.

People questioned my fanhood because I dared to bet against odu when a drunken Blaine taylor was ruining the program. I knew what I was seeing on the court and if I couldn't do a damn thing about it, I decided to do the next best thing.

I'm not betting against Jeff jones because this team isn't totally rudderless like that one was.........but you'd have to be absolutely crazy to bet ON us right now and that's kind of my point.

I bet on Blaines teams multiple times when I felt like we were a sure thing. I may not have been Blaines biggest fan but I recognized when we were good enough to bet on. I also recognized when we were awful enough to bet against.

Right now we aren't good or bad and that's the problem, because that is where we will stay under Jeff jones. You can call that a pessimistic viewpoint if you want, I call it realistic.

If you want to leave the boards because you don't like dissenting opinions then by all means, that is your right to do.
(02-08-2017 11:04 PM)ODU Hoops Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2017 10:56 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: [ -> ]Seriously though, do you realize you are describing Monarch Nation... which no longer exists because there was absolutely no discussion there once they started deleting every post that questioned BT?

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Yes, and I think you might be overestimating what level of moderation I am talking about. All opinions will be be welcome, but ruining every thread with the same content won't be. If you aren't interested, I welcome you to not join. If you would like to have an adult conversation about where ODU has gone right or wrong with their athletic program, then we would love to have you. I promise you it won't be the same as this.

I won't start it if there isn't interest, but please let me know via pm if you would be interested in something different.
I appreciate your sincere effort, but I obviously enjoy the banter with the likes of 757 and some others on this board, so that probably wouldn't be for me. Although, I would surely check out, and potentially participate more minimally in any ODU board.

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I learned how to ignore posters. It's sort of bearable to read these boards albeit a lot of blanked out posts. I'm all for a new board or have moderators kill threads that are so way off the original topic. Or make a "sticky" and move the repeat offenders' posts there.

I want to be able to go to a board where the DaBig's and Coach's reside and y'all know who you are aren't!!
(02-08-2017 11:06 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2017 10:56 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: [ -> ]Seriously though, do you realize you are describing Monarch Nation... which no longer exists because there was absolutely no discussion there once they started deleting every post that questioned BT?

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Bingo. That board died because it became a giant circle jerk.

Even worse, there were actually posters defending a drunken Blaine taylor making a total ass of himself and the university at the coach's show by saying he just "had a cold".

Some people refuse to look at reality and prefer to always look on the bright side. Am I probably overly negative and pessimistic? Yeah probably. But I've also been right a lot more than I've been wrong.

People questioned my fanhood because I dared to bet against odu when a drunken Blaine taylor was ruining the program. I knew what I was seeing on the court and if I couldn't do a damn thing about it, I decided to do the next best thing.

I'm not betting against Jeff jones because this team isn't totally rudderless like that one was.........but you'd have to be absolutely crazy to bet ON us right now and that's kind of my point.

I bet on Blaines teams multiple times when I felt like we were a sure thing. I may not have been Blaines biggest fan but I recognized when we were good enough to bet on. I also recognized when we were awful enough to bet against.

Right now we aren't good or bad and that's the problem, because that is where we will stay under Jeff jones. You can call that a pessimistic viewpoint if you want, I call it realistic.

If you want to leave the boards because you don't like dissenting opinions then by all means, that is your right to do.

Hey razor, thanks for offering me the opportunity to leave these boards. Surprised that you honestly can't comprehend that you say the EXACT same things about Jeff Jones on every thread. Similar to what you did with Blaine. It is ridiculous and frankly weird.

It has nothing to do about dissenting opinions, it has to do with people who are willing to listen to other people's opinions, which you have never been willing to do. Your personal attacks on other ODU fans are honestly bizarre.

Even though you apparently hated Monarch Nation, I expect you will try to peek in to the next message boards. We won't let you ruin them like you have in the past.
Dude. Just ignore posters and dont open threads that are "ruined." Its not difficult.
(02-08-2017 11:28 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: [ -> ]Dude. Just ignore posters and dont open threads that are "ruined." Its not difficult.

Or make something better? Just a thought.
(02-08-2017 11:22 PM)ODU Hoops Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2017 11:06 PM)Razor Ramon Monarch Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2017 10:56 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: [ -> ]Seriously though, do you realize you are describing Monarch Nation... which no longer exists because there was absolutely no discussion there once they started deleting every post that questioned BT?

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Bingo. That board died because it became a giant circle jerk.

Even worse, there were actually posters defending a drunken Blaine taylor making a total ass of himself and the university at the coach's show by saying he just "had a cold".

Some people refuse to look at reality and prefer to always look on the bright side. Am I probably overly negative and pessimistic? Yeah probably. But I've also been right a lot more than I've been wrong.

People questioned my fanhood because I dared to bet against odu when a drunken Blaine taylor was ruining the program. I knew what I was seeing on the court and if I couldn't do a damn thing about it, I decided to do the next best thing.

I'm not betting against Jeff jones because this team isn't totally rudderless like that one was.........but you'd have to be absolutely crazy to bet ON us right now and that's kind of my point.

I bet on Blaines teams multiple times when I felt like we were a sure thing. I may not have been Blaines biggest fan but I recognized when we were good enough to bet on. I also recognized when we were awful enough to bet against.

Right now we aren't good or bad and that's the problem, because that is where we will stay under Jeff jones. You can call that a pessimistic viewpoint if you want, I call it realistic.

If you want to leave the boards because you don't like dissenting opinions then by all means, that is your right to do.

Hey razor, thanks for offering me the opportunity to leave these boards. Surprised that you honestly can't comprehend that you say the EXACT same things about Jeff Jones on every thread. Similar to what you did with Blaine. It is ridiculous and frankly weird.

It has nothing to do about dissenting opinions, it has to do with people who are willing to listen to other people's opinions, which you have never been willing to do. Your personal attacks on other ODU fans are honestly bizarre.

Even though you apparently hated Monarch Nation, I expect you will try to peek in to the next message boards. We won't let you ruin them like you have in the past.

I'm not going anywhere and certainly not to some new hypothetical monarch nation.

Your exaggeration of threads being "ruined" is laughable. Multiple times we've suggested you positing something interesting to say about these bad performances and instead all we get is complaining about how the "threads are ruined".

The current discussion about finney vs. talley and coop vs. stith is one of the more interesting we've had in weeks and yet people are just complaining to complain.

Then you wonder why I don't take your complaints more seriously??

These boards would be DEAD, much like our arena, if it wasn't for the people trying to shed light on where the program really is right now. People have checked out on this season and a few of us complaining about what we are seeing on a message board is hardly the reason for that.

But if you want to try and scapegoat us be my guest I promise you won't hurt my feelings because I'd have to actually care about your opinion for you to do so.
(02-08-2017 11:32 PM)ODU Hoops Wrote: [ -> ]
(02-08-2017 11:28 PM)Gilesfan Wrote: [ -> ]Dude. Just ignore posters and dont open threads that are "ruined." Its not difficult.

Or make something better? Just a thought.

Absolutely NO ONE is stopping you.
Recruiting is slow news now and there is a week between games and it isn't tournament time. Not much else to add to what is going on so you just have the same dozen or so folks highly engaged. Some do tip toe with the rules and flirt with "that's the dumbest thing ever" and other such lines. But quite honestly they appear to enjoy the challenge of changing each others opinion, in some strange masochistic way =]. But more often than not threads tend to wind down on their own as everyone exhausts their stance. Then things are calm until another game. But the threads that are hot right now as I skimmed looked like it turned into a great discussion going back and forth using history, statistics, and insight. Was it heated? Sure. Did it challenge ideas and opinions? Absolutely. This isn't a safe space.

The ignore feature is a great tool if someone gets under your skin but I won't micromanage the forums.
(02-08-2017 11:52 PM)bit_9 Wrote: [ -> ]Recruiting is slow news now and there is a week between games and it isn't tournament time. Not much else to add to what is going on so you just have the same dozen or so folks highly engaged. Some do tip toe with the rules and flirt with "that's the dumbest thing ever" and other such lines. But quite honestly they appear to enjoy the challenge of changing each others opinion, in some strange masochistic way =]. But more often than not threads tend to wind down on their own as everyone exhausts their stance. Then things are calm until another game. But the threads that are hot right now as I skimmed looked like it turned into a great discussion going back and forth using history, statistics, and insight. Was it heated? Sure. Did it challenge ideas and opinions? Absolutely. This isn't a safe space.

The ignore feature is a great tool if someone gets under your skin but I won't micromanage the forums.

Indeed.

We have had posters make threats, stalk other posters, and reveal personal information, among other things. We deal with those as quickly as we learn about them (obviously we don't read every message on every thread so we rely on you to let us know).
Sometimes if a remark is personal enough we will quietly delete the offending post and warn the user.

Otherwise, I do not believe that it is healthy to moderate opinion, even if sometimes it seems, or indeed is, repetitive or the argument circular. In fact I don't believe that I (or anyone else for that matter) am qualified to censor anything unless it rises to the level of an AUP violation, whether I agree with it or not.

As bit stated, the ignore tool is invaluable.

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Sans the personal attacks, there is simply no way to have a good thread about losing to FAU at home. Just another bowel movement on a season that has been tough on fans. I don't think anyone expected it to be this bad.
I find this whole post pretty comical. You dont like what others have said (even if it is beating a dead horse) so you're done... sounds pretty petty.

I dont necessarily agree with everything Razor or MonarchBlue says but you're mad about them repeating themselves? Tell me over the past 6 games has our team improved? No, they havent so the same conversation these guys have brought to the table continues to be relevant.

If you're more the type to ignore the problem and lock it in a closed closet like it doesnt exist, more props to you but clearly this basketball program is dwindling and both these guys have had solid posts. Sorry you cant digest it but like Razor said...

NO ONE IS STOPPING YOU...

Yeah and I was banned from Monarch Nation twice. Nothing but a bunch of softies over there who couldnt handle a differing opinion. NO THANKS.
If I wanted to see a perspective of ODU that was all sunshine and rainbows, I would look elsewhere. Perhaps the Pilot. I come here for the debate and banter. It's not for everyone and if you don't like a particular poster just ignore and move on. If you don't like a particular thread then don't open the thread. If you don't like the boards, don't open the boards. No one is forcing anyone to read everything here. I enjoy seeing all sides of the argument, that includes the negative spectrum as well as the positive. For some of us this is free therapy lol. Take it for how you want - if you don't like it.. then don't use it.
I think the funny thing is, even with the criticism of Monarch Nation, there are many who simply believe it does no good to publicly bash the players, coaches, program, etc. That's it. It's not that they "refuse to look at reality," it's just that any concerns that may have existed were expressed privately, many times to individuals who were in a real position to do something about it. Whining and complaining on an insulated message board simply isn't an effective way to make changes, at least in this poster's opinion.
Meh, people like to talk so let them. The FAU thread has 20 some pages, I read the first 5-7. I know what the rest say. Better too much than too little imo.

But really, why do you need 24 pages to blame AdoptedMonarch for jinxing the FAU game? Because that's the only excuse for losing to FAU at home.
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